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November 21, 2009

Full List of Tax Hikes In Senate Democrat Health Bill

Senate Democrats will only deliberate 10 hourson today SATURDAY before they vote to nationalize one-sixth of the US economy.

The bill will nationalize the nation’s health care industry, increase costs, ration care, tax cosmetic surgery, cut Medicare, charge a monthly abortion fee, and take away your freedom.

Support for this disastrous bill is down to 40% with 52% opposing.

Please take time to call your US Senator even today it is not too late to call,

HERE is the PHONE list

http://www.theorator.com/senate.html

Check out the .......Full List of Tax Hikes In Senate Democrat Health Bill

The full Bill

Individual Mandate Tax (Page 324/Sec. 1501/$8 bil): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance must pay an income surtax according to the following schedule (capped at 8 percent of income):

Check out this important piece, at ATR.org.

Individual Mandate Tax (Page 324/Sec. 1501/$8 bil)

Employer Mandate Tax (Page 348/Sec. 1513/$28 bil)

Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans (Page 1979/Sec. 9001/$149.1 bil)

Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 (Page 1996/Sec. 9002/Min$)

Medicine Cabinet Tax (Page 1997/Sec. 9003/$5 bil)

HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike (Page 1998/Sec. 9004/$1.3 bil)

FSA Cap (Page 1999/Sec. 9005/$14.6 bil)

Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting (Page 1999/Sec. 9006/$17.1 bil)

Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (page 2001/Sec. 9007/Min$)

Tax on Innovator Drug Companies (Page 2010/Sec. 9008/ $22.2 bil)

Tax of Medical Device Manufacturers (Page 2020/Sec. 9009/$19.3 bil)

Tax on Health Insurers (Page 2026/Sec. 9010/$60.4 bil)

Eliminate tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (Page 2034/Sec. 9012/$5.4 bil)

Raise “Haircut” for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI (Page 2034/Sec. 9013/$15.2 bil)

$500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives (Page 2035/Sec. 9014/$0.6 bil)

Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax (Page 2040/Sec. 9015/$53.8 bil)

Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike (Page 2044/Sec. 9016/$0.4 bil)

Tax on Cosmetic Medical Procedures (Page 2045/Sec. 9017/$5.8 bil)

Exemptions for religious objectors, undocumented immigrants, prisoners, those earning less than the poverty line, members of Indian tribes, and hardship cases

Henry Waxman says to just get the bill in place...Which is exactly what Democrats plan to do

"I think we are going to get a bill passed. It may not be everything that I'd want, but if we get it in place we can build on it later and we could start down the road to making sure that we have a system that makes sense."

Listen to this, Waxman admits that Health Care should be done now because next year is an election year...

They know how unpopular this is...

"We'll work out our differences, but what we need is the Senate to act. And I hope they will do that very soon because we must get this job done, as far as I'm concerned, by the end of the year. Certainly we could go into next year, but there are going to be so many other pressures next year, especially with the elections looming that this is our opportunity. With a new President who has put this issue high on the agenda there is only a limited time to act. When the Clinton Administration tried to do it they pushed it off into the second year and the closer it got to the election the special interests were able to bring it down."

Wild Thing's comment........

Any idea what "religious objectors” means in the list of exemptions at the top of the document? It seems rather out of place. Unless they mean maybe people that are Christian Scientists????

We need more taxing like we need more islamofacists.

Heck couple this with the 460 billion in medicare cuts and it becomes quite clear what the Rats plans are....

Insidious as it sounds....

They plan on killing off all of the elederly so that there will be a huge transfer of wealth from the baby boomer generation to generation X on this wealth they will be able to collect death tax which in turn will increase revenue to the govt.

We are living in very strange and scary times indeed.

These power hungry bastards, especially ones like Snowe, Hatch, Collins and the rest have been playing both sides of the coin with their “good friends on the other side of the aisle” have now secured the imperial political class. Take a long look around you because these times will most likely be the last days of the American Middle class for a long, long time.

Obama isn’t stupid...he’s busy implementing his agenda. It’s an agenda that is so radical & horrendous that most don’t want to believe it could be the case. No American wants to believe that they are being “governed” by one who is singularly devoted to destroying the nation and spreading chaos throughout the earth.

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Senate Health Bill Debate Scheduled for TODAY; Vote on Cloture Expected at 8 PM ET

Eagle Forum's ad targeting Senator Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas

It appears the fate of the Senate Health Care Bill is now in the hands of two Democrat senators - Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana.

Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska has announced he will vote for cloture tomorrow, which would open the way for the bill to be taken up on the Senate Floor and receive an up or down vote. If Democrats can cobble together the 60 votes needed to invoke Cloture tomorrow, they will then only need 50 votes (plus VP Joe Biden) to gain final passage of the bill. Fifty votes would appear to be a sure thing with the huge majority the Democrats have.

That means the Cloture vote tomorrow is the key vote. Some Democrats - like Ben Nelson - will likely vote for Cloture tomorrow under the guise of wanting to have a "free and open debate / vote" on the bill, and then vote against final passage to cover themselves, knowing there will be at least 50 votes to pass it.

Above is a Radio Ad from the Eagle Forum that are seeking to get citizens to put pressure on Lincoln to vote against Cloture tomorrow.

NOTE: Independent Joe Lieberman has said he WILL vote for Cloture tomorrow to begin debate on final passage of the bill. He has said he will consider filibustering the final bill to prevent a vote on final passage if it has a Public Option. But the reality is, if the Democrats get 60 votes tomorrow for Cloture, it is over. They will have 50 votes to pass the bill later.

UPDATE 9:33 PM CT: Politico reported last night that Landrieu says she is "leaning towards" voting for Cloture tomorrow. Reid put $100 million in this bill for Louisiana, and it appears it has done what it was intended to do. That leaves Lincoln of Arkansas, and she has said she will consider carefully what Bill Clinton thinks. He urged passage of the bill. It looks like it is going to happen.

South Carolina Republican Senator Jim DeMint notes that a vote by Democrats to proceed to debate is a vote on the substance of the health care bill itself.

Senator Kyle said IF they get this vote on Sat....it will mean the Healthcare bill has a 97% of passing.

Senate Democrat leader Harry Reid remained “confident” the 2,074-page, US $2.5 trillion health care overhaul will pass.

“The finish line is in sight,” Reid told reporters.

Reid’s Government-Run Health Plan Requires a Monthly Abortion Fee

The left's ultimate dream, forcing all Americans to participate in the slaughter of the unborn (even though a CNN poll found 61% oppose tax-payer funded abortions)

Just like the original 2,032-page, government-run health care plan from Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) massive, 2,074-page bill would levy a new “abortion premium” fee on Americans in the government-run plan.

Beginning on line 7, p. 118, section 1303 under “Voluntary Choice of Coverage of Abortion Services” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run health plan. Leader Reid’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions (line 13, p. 120).

What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run health plan. It’s right there beginning on line 11, page 122, section 1303, under “Actuarial Value of Optional Service Coverage.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account – and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.

Section 1303(a)(2)(C) describes the process in which the Health Benefits Commissioner is to assess the monthly premiums that will be used to pay for elective abortions under the government-run health plan and for those who are given an affordability credit to purchase insurance coverage that includes abortion through the Exchange. The Commissioner must charge at a minimum $1 per enrollee per month.

We need to flood their offices with calls and emails to vote NO on Cloture!!

Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas -- have yet to commit to allowing debate to begin. Reid met privately with the three before releasing his bill Wednesday, and Nelson later issued a statement strongly suggesting he would support fellow Democrats on the procedural vote.

If they do get the 60 votes for cloture then it is all but a done deal as they will only then need 51 votes to pass the bill in the full senate something that is much easier considering the dems majority in the Senate!

Contact Senator Nelson’s office to voice your opposition to this bill.

CONTACT INFO:

US Capitol Switchboard Toll-free Numbers

1-866-220-0044
1-877-851-6437
1-800-833-6354
1-888-355-3588
1-866-808-0065
1-877-762-8762
1-800-862-5530

Mary Landrieu of Louisiana Democrat
Washington, DC Office

328 Hart Senate Building
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510

Voice: (202)224-5824
Fax:(202) 224-9735
http://landrieu.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Olympia J. Snowe "Republican" Senator Maine

Washington D. C. Office
Mailing Address:
154 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

http://snowe.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactSenatorSnowe.Email

Phone: (202) 224-5344
Toll Free: (800) 432-1599
Fax: (202) 224-1946

Senator Blanche L. Lincoln Arkansas Democrat

Washington D.C. Office
355 Dirksen Senate Building
Washington, DC 20510-0404
Phone: (202)224-4843
Fax: (202)228-1371
http://lincoln.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

Senator Nelson (D) Nebraska Democrat

Omaha

7602 Pacific St.

Ste 205

Omaha, NE 68114

Tel: (402) 391-3411

Fax: (402) 391-4725

Washington, D.C.

720 Hart Senate Office Building

United States Senate

Washington, DC 20510

Tel: (202) 224-6551

Fax: (202) 228-0012

Scottsbluff-308-631-7614

Lincoln-402-441-4600

Central-308-293-5818

Ben_Nelson@bennelson.senate.gov

You have to use the Senators web site email form at http://bennelson.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

Wild Thing's comment........

Under Senate rules, 60 votes are needed on a "cloture" motion to move a bill forward. Right now, Democrats have 60 votes and Republicans have 40 votes. Democrat Senators Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) are key votes to defeating the cloture motion to proceed to consideration of the health care bill. Both are running for reelection in 2010 and both Senators need to know that a "Yes" vote on the cloture motion to proceed will mean the end of their political careers.

And the taxes start right away. As in as soon as it is passed into law. Hopefully they have 41 votes to stop this bill from passing.

.....Thank you Richard
for sending this to me.

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November 20, 2009

Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.): 'I'm getting tired of saving Obama's can'

The Hill

Far left Democrat John Conyers, husband of convicted felon Monica Conyers, told reporters today that, “I’m getting tired of saving Obama’s can.”
The Hill reported:

President Barack Obama is “bowing down” to Republicans and corporate interests on health reform, Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) said Thursday.

Conyers, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a longtime advocate of single-payer healthcare, blasted the president for a perceived weakness in leadership on health reform.

“I’m getting tired of saving Obama’s can in the White House,” Conyers said on the liberal Bill Press radio show. “He only won by five votes in the House, and this bill wasn’t even anything to write home about.”

“The only way he could have got it through was that progressives held their nose,” Conyers added.

The veteran Michigan Democrat had teamed with Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) to push single-payer options in the health reform bill, a battle which Conyers said was far from over.

But he castigated Obama for trying to reach out to conservatives and other adversaries on health reform, accusing the president of doing a "disservice" to what he'd once stood for.

"Holding hands out and beer on Friday nights in the White House and bowing down to every nutty, right-wing proposal about healthcare and saying on occasion the public option isn't all that important is doing a disservice to the Barack Obama that I first met, who was an ardent single-payer enthusiast himself," he said.

Wild Thing's comment..........

In other words, liberals hate the current health care bills in Congress because they don't nationalize health care fast enough for them.

LOL oh pleassssseee!

Obama doesn’t need anyone’s help being a hard left, socialist communist Marxist vile person.

"...and this bill wasn't even anything to write home about."

Gee whiz, John, to hear Nancy talk about it the House bill was the finest political document to have been penned since the Magna Carta. And oh by the way...heh heh ...Speaking of cans, Rep. Conyers, how’s your wife doing in the can?

Democrat Cognitive Dissonance alert.

"He only won by five votes in the House, and this bill wasn't even anything to write home about."

This is telling. This bill - if signed into law - would cause severe damage to this nation and still it is not good enough for these socialist bastards. They want everyone grovelling at their feet and working in the rice paddies.

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November 16, 2009

Obama Will Remove Abortion Funding Ban From Health Care Bill

Obama Will Remove Abortion Funding Ban From Health Care Bill, Advisor Says

by Steven Ertelt

LifeNews.com Editor

Top Obama advisor David Axelrod on Sunday confirmed what pro-life advocates already suspected would happen. He said President Barack Obama will work with congressional Democrats to remove the abortion funding ban the House approved in its version of the government-run health care bill.

Axelrod says that, because the Stupak amendment allegedly goes beyond the status quo under the Hyde amendment (which bans abortion funding under Medicaid), Obama will make sure the amendment is yanked during the conference committee.

That’s the part of the legislative process that will occur if and when the Senate approves its own health care bill, which will likely start debate with abortion funding.

"The president has said repeatedly, and he said in his speech to Congress, that he doesn't believe that this bill should change the status quo as it relates to the issue of abortion," Axelrod said today on CNN's State of the Union program.

"This shouldn't be a debate about abortion. And he's going to work with Senate and the House to try and ensure that at the end of the day, the status quo is not changed," he added. "I believe that there are discussions ongoing to how to adjust it accordingly."

Axelrod said that an agreement with ruling Democrats in Congress to remove the ban on taxpayer funding of abortions "can and will be worked through before it reaches his desk."

Axelrod's comments come after Obama's own remarks which made it appear he would favor removing or weakening the Stupak amendment.

"I laid out a very simple principle, which is this is a health care bill, not an abortion bill," Obama told ABC News last week. "And we're not looking to change what is the principle that has been in place for a very long time, which is federal dollars are not used to subsidize abortions."

Obama appeared to side with abortion advocates who claim the Stupak amendment in the health care bill somehow changes the current status quo on government abortion funding.

“There needs to be some more work before we get to the point where we're not changing the status quo” on abortion, Obama added. “And that’s the goal.”

Obama also sided with pro-abortion groups in saying he wanted to make sure “we're not restricting women’s insurance choices,” because he had promised that “if you're happy and satisfied with the insurance that you have, it’s not going to change.”

Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee, chided Obama for his comments.

"The only thing that will prevent the health care bill from being 'an abortion bill' is precisely the Stupak-Pitts Amendment, as the House of Representatives recognized by a 46-vote margin," he said.

"The phoniness of Obama's claim that he has been trying to preserve the 'status quo' on abortion policy should be evident to any observer by now. In reality, the White House and top Democratic congressional leaders have been working hard to create a national federal government health plan that would fund abortion on demand, just as Obama promised Planned Parenthood," Johnson added.

Wild Thing's comment......

Barack Obama voted 4 times to support infanticide. That is one subject he did not vote "present" on.

A much easier decision for Obama then supporting our troops in Afghanistan, thus he made it quickly.

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November 14, 2009

U.S. Rep. Peter Roskam Delivers Health Care Bill to Library

Congressman Roskam delivering the almost 2,000 page health care bill to the Wheaton Public Library.

Roskam, R-6th District, of Wheaton, accompanied by his wife Elizabeth and staff, dropped it on the desk of the library's reference counter and told a library employee that he wanted the library to have a physical copy of the bill because it could crash computers when downloaded.

"Two thousand pages, it’s almost twice as long as the previous bill, HR 3200, that had been introduced in July and got a pretty bad reception from the public,” Roskam said in an interview immediately after he delivered the bill.

While the delivery of the bill was a planned event to which media was invited, Roskam said his interest was that the public has access to it.

“Who knows what's in this thing?” he said.

Sarah Meisels, library director, said the bill will be made available to anyone interested in looking at it.

“It’s at the reference desk. But who’s gonna read over 1,000 pages, and if they do, who’s gonna understand it?” Meisels said.

She said the bill is also available for people to photocopy.

Roskam said the bill, with a price tag of nearly $900 billion, cuts to Medicaid, potential to raise taxes on small businesses, and mandate that American citizens purchase a government-approved insurance policy, will have an impact on every one of his constituents.

Roskam said he has not yet read the bill and will require help from his staff to do so before the bill is voted on later this week.

“You don’t read legislation like a novel, though, you’ve got to break it down,” he said.

Shannon O'Brien, spokeswoman for U.S. Rep. Bill Foster, D-14th District, of Geneva — whose district borders the western edge of Wheaton — said Foster is nearly halfway through the bill.

“The congressman is actually reading the legislation right now,” O'Brien said. “... (Foster has) said the devil is in the details and he wanted to analyze it before he made a decision (on whether he supports the bill).”

Wild Thing's comment.......

This is a great idea. He at least is trying to make it so people can read the monster of a bill.

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November 12, 2009

Obama and Pelosi Think It's Fair For People To Go To Jail For Not Buying Into Socialized Medicine

Komo 4 News (ABC Seattle) Reporter Shomari Stone Asks House Speaker Nanci Pelosi about the following:

KOMO News reporter Shomari Stone: Do you think it’s fair to send people to jail who don’t buy health insurance?

Pelosi: …The legislation is very fair in this respect.

According to Committee On Ways & Means Republicans Ranking Member, Dave Camp, "the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain acceptable health insurance coverage and who choose not to pay the bills new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years."

Pelosi confronted on Health Care being a jobs killer and will drive us back into more recession
Camera is unsteady in this video.

Journalist Scott St. Clair - The Piper - asks Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi about the negative impact her health care bill will have on jobs and the economy. 10.2 percent unemployment, a $1.2 to 1.5 trillion cost, unfavorable polling numbers, and experts predicting it will kill jobs and may drive us back into a deep recession. Her answer? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah - a stump speech with something about it being "the fault of the previous administration."

Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

Political Punch
Jack Tapper

Obama said that penalties are appropriate for people who try to “free ride” the health care system but stopped short of endorsing the threat of jail time for those who refuse to pay a fine for not having insurance.

“What I think is appropriate is that in the same way that everybody has to get auto insurance and if you don't, you're subject to some penalty, that in this situation, if you have the ability to buy insurance, it's affordable and you choose not to do so, forcing you and me and everybody else to subsidize you, you know, there's a thousand dollar hidden tax that families all across America are -- are burdened by because of the fact that people don't have health insurance, you know, there's nothing wrong with a penalty.”

Under the House bill those who can afford to buy insurance and don’t’ pay a fine. If the refuse to pay that fine there’s a threat – as with a lot of tax fines – of jail time. The Senate removed that provision in the Senate Finance Committee.

Mr. Obama said penalties have to be high enough for people to not game the system, but it’s also important to not be “so punitive” that people who are having a hard time find themselves suddenly worse off, thus why hardship exemptions have been built in the legislation.

“I think the general broad principle is simply that people who are paying for their health insurance aren't subsidizing folks who simply choose not to until they get sick and then suddenly they expect free health insurance. That's -- that's basic concept of responsibility that I think most Americans abide by,” Mr. Obama said, “penalties are appropriate for people who try to free ride the system and force others to pay for their health insurance.”

The President said that he didn’t think the question over the appropriateness of possible jail time is the “biggest question” the House and Senate are facing right now.

Wild Thing's comment........

Are you kidding me?!
This so-called smart man, a supposed “Constitutional scholar”, uses the simpleton’s analogy that the requirement for auto-insurance is the “same” as government requiring everyone to purchase health insurance. Last I checked, no human being was ever born with a motorized vehicle attached to his backside. Also, last I checked, Americans are born with certain inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

How does making it a requirement to purchase something as a requisite to life, in order to be free from penalization (liberty), in any way, shape or form in-line with “truths” of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America?

Obama’s argument doesn’t wash.

The government (state of CA) mandates me to have auto insurance to protect OTHER drivers, vehicles and property due to accidents caused by ME. That’s why I’m required to carry liability insurance but collision (coverage for my vehicle damage caused by me) is optional.

If I don’t have health insurance, I’m not hurting anyone else if I get sick.

You only have to acquire car insurance if you are CHOOSING to buy a car. If I don't own a car the government doesn't make me buy auto insurance. Same thing for homeowners...How many homeless people does the government force to buy homeowners insurance??

LOL Oh my gosh look at this. .............. Nancy Pelosi wants to give us their socialized medicine as a Christmas present..................I guess we were really, really, bad this year! Hey Nancy, take me off your Christmas list. I don’t want your stinking health care plan. Nancy better stay away from our chimney.

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Desperate To Pass Socialized Medicine Obama Supporters Use the RINO Cao In New Ad

Congressman Joseph Cao is the subject of a new TV and internet commercial in the debate over health care reform.

"Congressman Joseph Cao knows it's time to reform health care," the spot says. "Thank Congressman Cao for knowing it's time to stand up to the insurance companies and fight for us."

The advertisement was produced by a group who supports President Obama's plan, following Cao's vote as the only Republican to vote in favor of the the measure in the House of Representatives.

The 220-215 vote cleared the way for the Senate to begin a long-delayed debate on the issue. Americans United for Change Acting Executive Director Tom McMahon released a statement that pointed out Cao's vote.

"Struggling Louisiana families are closer than ever to having access to the quality, affordable health care they deserve thanks in no small part to Congressman Joseph Cao.," McMahon wrote. "Congressman Cao stood up to the big insurance and stood alongside the AARP, the American Medical Association and the clear majority of the American people." McMahon says Cao was right to break party ranks.

Wild Thing's comment.........

He not only gave them his freaking vote, he opened the door to what the left wanted so much. A Republican vote so they can push this and say it is BOTH parties that wanted the socialized medicine. Too many people will not know he was the only one with an R with his name. They don't pay attention to what is happening.

GRRRRRR this makes me sick! Get rid of RINO"s !!!!!!

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The LEFT Reacts To Joe Lieberman's Promise To Join Filibuster About Health Care Bill

Hartford (WTNH) - Protesters who are miffed about Joe Lieberman's stance against the current health care reform package held demonstrations today at his offices in Washington, D.C. and Hartford.

30 people showed up to Lieberman's Hartford office this morning. An aide to Lieberman came out to listen to what they had to say.

Police arrested four of the protestors in Hartford and charged them with disorderly conduct.

The group claims that Sen. Lieberman has excepted over $2 million in contributions from the health care industry since 1989.

The event in Hartford was coordinated with another demonstration at Sen. Lieberman's Washington, D.C. office. Six protestors were arrested there for unlawful entry. Kevin Zeese, an organizer with Mobilization for Health Care for All , says the demonstrators urged Lieberman to stop accepting money from health insurance companies.

He says the protesters threw mock dollar bills printed with Lieberman's face from the seventh-floor balcony.

Sen. Lieberman has said that he will likely vote against a health care bill that includes a public option.

In a historical vote this past weekend, the U.S. House of Representatives passed health care legislation. Read a summary . The bill now goes to U.S. Senate where Lieberman will play a key role in whether or not it passes.

The event in Hartford was coordinated with another demonstration at Sen. Lieberman's Washington, D.C. office. Six protesters were arrested there for unlawful entry.

Kevin Zeese, an organizer with Mobilization for Health Care for All , says the demonstrators urged Lieberman to stop accepting money from health insurance companies. He says the protesters threw mock dollar bills printed with Lieberman's face from the seventh-floor balcony.

"Everybody has a right to express their point of view, I much prefer to have a dialog, of course. But, I think, some of these folks come in to get arrested, that's their right too," Lieberman said.

4 arrested at Lieberman's office

Protesters who are miffed about Joe Lieberman's stance against the current health care reform package held demonstrations today at his offices in Washington, D.C. and Hartford.

Wild Thing's comment........

BIG difference, the TEA protest in Hartford this summer. 5000+ people showed up. No arrests, no incidents, no disrutions, no disorderly conduct. And no littering.

The left want socialism so badly and even worse for America. Why or why do they live here if they hate what America has been all this time. Get the F out!

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November 09, 2009

Veterinarian Loans and Biofuels Part Of Healthcare Now

Veterinarian Loans and Biofuels Are Apparently Part Of Healthcare Now

That 2,000+ page piece of legislation that was approved yesterday by House democrats is not only a takeover of the health care industry. It’s also full of goodies like a $283 million gift to veterinarians.

Wild Thing's comment.......

Remember the Republican Contract with America? Well this is the DemocRATS Contract On America!

Declaration of Independance : “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

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Dictator Obama's Lies About His Power Grab Health Care Bill

"This legislation is fully paid for and will bring down our long-term Federal deficit" - LIAR Obama

"The Affordable Health Care for America Act is a piece of legislation that will provide security and stability for Americans who have insurance, quality affordable options for those who don't, and bring down the cost of Health Care for families, businesses and our Government while strengthening the financial health of Medicare. It is legislation that is fully paid for and will bring down our long term Federal deficit. Given the heated and often misleading rhetoric that surrounded this legislation, I know this was a courageous vote for many members of Congress"

Total LIES are in BOLD.

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL for This MONSTER Health Care bill

28 out of 52 congressional members of the "blue dog coalition" supported the Pelosi/Obama bill which will raise our taxes, destroy Capitalism, give the government more control of our lives, is in complete violation of the Constitution, will raise costs, and add trillions to the deficit. It will force us onto government run health care, will guarantee people something they have no right to, will instate death panels, will force jail time if you want freedom, and is the end of America as we know it.

Also, 14 of these "lap dogs" who voted for the Pelosi/Obama care freedom destruction bill of 2009, reside in Republican districts.

Wild Thing's comment..........

So Obama is like a slave owner and we will be HIS slaves if this passes in the Senate. He and those that voted for this bill hate America and the Liberty and Freedom our country has stood for.

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November 08, 2009

ObamaCare Passes 220-215 in the House ~ Just 5 Votes

ObamaCare Passes 220-215 in the US House of Reps. -- Dems Hold Victory Press Conference

Democrats hold celebratory press conference following their passage of the unpopular-with-the-American-public ObamaCare health care reform bill.

Virtually every major opinion poll currently out shows either a plurality or a majority of the public is opposed to the proposed legislation.

This reality explains why the vote was so close and also is a likely harbinger for Democratic electoral challenges in 2010 as members who voted for the bill are held to account by disgruntled constituents more concerned with jobs than health care.

Only 1 Republican voted for the bill, while 39 Democrats voted against it. The Republican was Anh Joseph Cao of Louisiana's 2nd district.

Speculation is already rampant that Cao will face electoral repercussions from conservatives for his vote.

U.S. Senator Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, released the following statement regarding the passage of a 2,000-page health care bill in the House of Representatives:

“This 2,000-page bill goes in exactly the wrong direction: it means higher premiums, higher taxes, Medicare cuts, more debt & huge new health-care costs for state taxpayers. Instead we should start over and go step by step. Specifically, we could start with small business health care plans that would lower premiums, cover up to 1 million new small business employees, and reduce spending on Medicaid.”

Obama Acknowledged Today That He and Bill Owens Pulled a Health Care Fast One on the Voters in NY-23

Source

The New York Times is reporting that in his pep talk to the Democrats in Congress this morning, President Obama acknowledged that he and newly elected NY-23 Democratic Congressman Bill Owens have pulled a fast one on the voters in that district.

The Times reported the President's comments about Bill Owens today in the context of the overall pending Health Care bill vote:

The president also singled out Representative Bill Owens, the newly-elected Democrat from a historically Republican district in New York, who was sworn into office just on Friday. Mr. Obama noted that Mr. Owens would support the health care bill even though it might not be popular at home.

“Think about Bill Owens,” Mr. Obama said. “He could have dodged it. But he didn’t. And guess what? Bill is sitting right here."

From the start of his campaign on August 10 until an election eve debate on October 30, Owens adamantly opposed the type of public option that is contained in HR 3962, the Pelosi bill the House is voting on later today.

GOP Rep. Kevin Brady showing a chart they created to visualize the Pelosi Health Care Bill about to be passed by the House of Representatives.

We developed this chart based on Nancy Pelosi’s new health care plan….The new chart shows more than 90 of these new mandates, commissions and agencies. The true number is well over 100, we simply ran out of space.

In terms of sheer bureaucracy, if the IRS and Medicare had a baby, it would look like this. And the question is how is that going to make our health care more affordable?

Wild Thing's comment......

Ok let's look at what happened:

1. The bill passed 220 - 215, hardly a screaming mandate.

2. The Senate has to act on it, and they are not going to act until after the first of the year, if they act at all. The best thing for the Senate is to delay it, because once this garbage hits 2010, it is an election year, and NO ONE will want this hung around their neck.

3. This thing CANNOT get through the Senate if, in fact, Lieberman is going to join the Republican filibuster. No Republican, even Snowe and Collins will vote for cloture, so this thing dies in the filibuster in the senate (Probably comes up well short of cloture because Byrd has indicated he would filibuster as well if he can be present to vote). What this means is that there is only, at best, 58 votes for cloture, this thing never gets off the ground in the Senate. Look at history, look at cap and trade, this passed the house by an almost identical margin and has languished in the Senate, and will likely not get out.

4. Reid is in the fight of his life to keep his seat. He really does not want to see this SOB pass. Nancy Pelosi is safe, but Reid is not.

The House is the place where emotion can surge and all sorts of crazy stuff can happen, but the Senate is the "cooling plate" of the legislative process. I think that the Senate will not be able to bust through a bipartisan filibuster. Now the news media will paint this as a great victory, but this is far from over.

TWO big Obama states just threw democrats out on their butts and almost a 3rd with Hoffman almost a win too, everyone will remember that who has to vote for this freaking thing. Keep praying, turn your attention to the Senate and melt their phone lines.

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The One Republican Vote For Socialized Medicine Was Rep. Anh (Joseph) Cao of Louisiana

One Republican voted for Pelosicare: GOP Rep. Anh (Joseph) Cao of Louisiana. And from the time he was elected, Cao has backed the S-CHIP expansion, the $108 billion IMF bailout, and the omni-waste spending bill. And he voted to rebuke GOP Rep. Joe Wilson for calling out President Obama on his health care lies.

His remarks:

"Louisiana Congressman Anh “Joseph” Cao on Sunday morning released a statement after he voted as the only Republican in favor of the Democratic health care reform bill.

The health care reform bill, dubbed the “Affordable Health Care for America Act” (H.R. 3962), passed the U.S. House of Representatives in a 220 – 215 vote.

“Tonight, I voted to keep taxpayer dollars from funding abortion and to deliver access to affordable health care to the people of Louisiana,” Cao said in a statement released by his office. “I read the versions of the House [health reform] bill. I listened to the countless stories of Orleans and Jefferson Parish citizens whose health care costs are exploding – if they are able to obtain health care at all. Louisianans needs real options for primary care, for mental health care, and for expanded health care for seniors and children.”

Cao wrote he obtained commitment from President Obama that he would work together to address the health care issues of Louisiana, including the FMAP crisis and community disaster loan forgiveness, as well as issues related to Charity and Methodist Hospitals. “I call on all my constituents to support me as I work with him on these issues.”

A little more about him, from March 4th.

On Tuesday, in front of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus, Rep. Joseph Cao, the first Vietnamese-American elected to Congress, admitted to being a closet case. A “closet Democrat” that is. His exact words were:

A He says “Don’t tell the Republicans, but I might be a closet Democrat,” said Cao to a round of laughter.”

Wild Thing's comment.......

I don’t care if the entire district is liberal democrats. He has an (R) by his name and voted with the (D)s. We do not gain anything by having a republican voting with the democrats on this issue. He is still a traitor to this country as are the other 219 who voted for the bill.

Posted by Wild Thing at 04:40 AM | Comments (10)

November 07, 2009

Military HATER Obama Visit Ft. Hood? NO Way! Instead He Pushs his Socialized Medicine with Pelosi

Republican Chairman Pete Sessions Speaks About The 5,000,000 Jobs Lost From This Bill

Obama for health care votes

Barack Obama is traveling to Capitol Hill on Saturday to try to close the sale on his signature health care overhaul, facing a make-or-break vote in the House certain to be seen as a test of his presidency.

Obama scheduled a late-morning visit with House Democrats convening a rare Saturday session on legislation to remake the U.S. health care system, extending coverage to tens of millions now uninsured and banning insurance company practices such as denial of coverage based on pre-existing medical problems.

Late Friday, House Democrats cleared an abortion-related impasse blocking a vote and officials expressed optimism they had finally lined up the support needed to pass Obama’s signature issue.

Under the arrangement, Democratic Reps. Bart Stupak of Michigan, Brad Ellsworth of Indiana and other abortion opponents were promised an opportunity to insert tougher restrictions into the legislation during debate on the House floor.

The leadership’s hope is that no matter how that vote turns out, Democrats on both sides of the abortion divide will then unite to give the health care bill a majority over unanimous Republican opposition.

“We wish to maintain current law, which says no public funding for abortion,” Stupak said. “We are not writing a new federal abortion policy.”

The GOP Health Care Plan: "I Object!" - Feat. Rep. Tom Price (R-GA)
As Democrats try to expand access to quality health care coverage, House Republicans routinely object.

Wild Thing's comment.......

I have been watching between C-Pan and FOX news. The Republicans have been giving some great speechs why NOT to do this.

Obama pushes for this crap but can’t find time to visit the wounder at Ft Hood. Obama is not at Fort Hood today thanking our wounded - the wounded are not Muslims. He is in congress trying to get his civilian takeover law passed. And the Democrats are helping Muslim Obama destroy what is left of our civil rights.

Whopper Lie Obama today ..so far......Paraphrasing, he said that by passing the HealthCare reform bill would actually reduce the national deficit. One of the lessons we learned from Obama's speech is that it's perfectly acceptable to lie, but it's a great big no-no to call the liar a liar such as when Joe Wilson said YOU LIE.

I know I have posted this before but.... Please Let your REPRESENTATIVE know you opposition to this bill: HR 3962

(202)224-3121

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt

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Obama and Pelsoi's DESTROY America Health Care Bill

Rep. Steve King (R-IA): Again Saturday Health Care Rally At The Capitol

I REALLY Like this guy King. ~ Wild Thing

House Democrats clear impasse on health bill

House Democrats acknowledged they don’t yet have the votes to pass a sweeping overhaul of the nation’s health care system, and signaled they may push back the vote until Sunday or early next week.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., told reporters in a conference call Friday that the make-or-break vote on President Barack Obama’s top priority that had been set for Saturday could face delay.

The apparent problem: Democrats have yet to resolve intraparty disputes over abortion funding and illegal immigrants’ access to health care.

What the Pelosi Health-Care Bill Really Says

The Wall Street Journal

Taken from .....

http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us

The health bill that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is bringing to a vote (H.R. 3962) is 1,990 pages. Here are some of the details you need to know.

What the government will require you to do:

•Sec. 202 (p. 91-92) of the bill requires you to enroll in a "qualified plan." If you get your insurance at work, your employer will have a "grace period" to switch you to a "qualified plan," meaning a plan designed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. If you buy your own insurance, there's no grace period. You'll have to enroll in a qualified plan as soon as any term in your contract changes, such as the co-pay, deductible or benefit.

•Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a "qualified plan" covers and how much you'll be legally required to pay for it. That's like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later.

On Nov. 2, the Congressional Budget Office estimated what the plans will likely cost. An individual earning $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance will have to pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, which is 17% of his pre-tax income. A family earning $102,100 a year before taxes will have to pay a $15,000 premium plus an estimated $5,300 out-of-pocket, for a $20,300 total, or 20% of its pre-tax income. Individuals and families earning less than these amounts will be eligible for subsidies paid directly to their insurer.

• Sec. 303 (pp. 167-168) makes it clear that, although the "qualified plan" is not yet designed, it will be of the "one size fits all" variety. The bill claims to offer choice—basic, enhanced and premium levels—but the benefits are the same. Only the co-pays and deductibles differ. You will have to enroll in the same plan, whether the government is paying for it or you and your employer are footing the bill.

• Sec. 59b (pp. 297-299) says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars. Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement.

• Sec. 412 (p. 272) says that employers must provide a "qualified plan" for their employees and pay 72.5% of the cost, and a smaller share of family coverage, or incur an 8% payroll tax. Small businesses, with payrolls from $500,000 to $750,000, are fined less.

Eviscerating Medicare

In addition to reducing future Medicare funding by an estimated $500 billion, the bill fundamentally changes how Medicare pays doctors and hospitals, permitting the government to dictate treatment decisions.

• Sec. 1302 (pp. 672-692) moves Medicare from a fee-for-service payment system, in which patients choose which doctors to see and doctors are paid for each service they provide, toward what's called a "medical home."

The medical home is this decade's version of HMO-restrictions on care. A primary-care provider manages access to costly specialists and diagnostic tests for a flat monthly fee. The bill specifies that patients may have to settle for a nurse practitioner rather than a physician as the primary-care provider. Medical homes begin with demonstration projects, but the HHS secretary is authorized to "disseminate this approach rapidly on a national basis."

A December 2008 Congressional Budget Office report noted that "medical homes" were likely to resemble the unpopular gatekeepers of 20 years ago if cost control was a priority.

• Sec. 1114 (pp. 391-393) replaces physicians with physician assistants in overseeing care for hospice patients.

• Secs. 1158-1160 (pp. 499-520) initiates programs to reduce payments for patient care to what it costs in the lowest cost regions of the country. This will reduce payments for care (and by implication the standard of care) for hospital patients in higher cost areas such as New York and Florida.

• Sec. 1161 (pp. 520-545) cuts payments to Medicare Advantage plans (used by 20% of seniors). Advantage plans have warned this will result in reductions in optional benefits such as vision and dental care.

• Sec. 1402 (p. 756) says that the results of comparative effectiveness research conducted by the government will be delivered to doctors electronically to guide their use of "medical items and services."

Questionable Priorities:

While the bill will slash Medicare funding, it will also direct billions of dollars to numerous inner-city social work and diversity programs with vague standards of accountability.

• Sec. 399V (p. 1422) provides for grants to community "entities" with no required qualifications except having "documented community activity and experience with community healthcare workers" to "educate, guide, and provide experiential learning opportunities" aimed at drug abuse, poor nutrition, smoking and obesity. "Each community health worker program receiving funds under the grant will provide services in the cultural context most appropriate for the individual served by the program."

These programs will "enhance the capacity of individuals to utilize health services and health related social services under Federal, State and local programs by assisting individuals in establishing eligibility . . . and in receiving services and other benefits" including transportation and translation services.

• Sec. 222 (p. 617) provides reimbursement for culturally and linguistically appropriate services. This program will train health-care workers to inform Medicare beneficiaries of their "right" to have an interpreter at all times and with no co-pays for language services.

• Secs. 2521 and 2533 (pp. 1379 and 1437) establishes racial and ethnic preferences in awarding grants for training nurses and creating secondary-school health science programs. For example, grants for nursing schools should "give preference to programs that provide for improving the diversity of new nurse graduates to reflect changes in the demographics of the patient population." And secondary-school grants should go to schools "graduating students from disadvantaged backgrounds including racial and ethnic minorities."

• Sec. 305 (p. 189) Provides for automatic Medicaid enrollment of newborns who do not otherwise have insurance.

• Secs. 1158-1160 (pp. 499-520) initiates programs to reduce payments for patient care to what it costs in the lowest cost regions of the country."

• Sec. 303 (pp. 167-168) makes it clear that, although the “qualified plan” is not yet designed, it will be of the “one size fits all” variety. The bill claims to offer choice—basic, enhanced and premium levels—but the benefits are the same. Only the co-pays and deductibles differ. You will have to enroll in the same plan, whether the government is paying for it or you and your employer are footing the bill.

(ILLEGALS ARE EXCEMPT!)

• Sec. 412 (p. 272) says that employers must provide a “qualified plan” for their employees and pay 72.5% of the cost, and a smaller share of family coverage, or incur an 8% payroll tax. Small businesses, with payrolls from $500,000 to $750,000, are fined less.

A December 2008 Congressional Budget Office report noted that “medical homes” were likely to resemble the unpopular gatekeepers of 20 years ago if cost control was a priority.

• Sec. 1114 (pp. 391-393) replaces physicians with physician assistants in overseeing care for hospice patients.

• Sec. 1402 (p. 756) says that the results of comparative effectiveness research conducted by the government will be delivered to doctors electronically to guide their use of “medical items and services.”

• Sec. 399V (p. 1422) provides for grants to community “entities” with no required qualifications except having “documented community activity and experience with community healthcare workers” to “educate, guide, and provide experiential learning opportunities” aimed at drug abuse, poor nutrition, smoking and obesity. “Each community health worker program receiving funds under the grant will provide services in the cultural context most appropriate for the individual served by the program.”

• Sec. 222 (p. 617) provides reimbursement for culturally and linguistically appropriate services. This program will train health-care workers to inform Medicare beneficiaries of their “right” to have an interpreter at all times and with no co-pays for language services.

• Secs. 2521 and 2533 (pp. 1379 and 1437) establishes racial and ethnic preferences in awarding grants for training nurses and creating secondary-school health science programs. For example, grants for nursing schools should “give preference to programs that provide for improving the diversity of new nurse graduates to reflect changes in the demographics of the patient population.” And secondary-school grants should go to schools “graduating students from disadvantaged backgrounds including racial and ethnic minorities.”

• Sec. 305 (p. 189) Provides for automatic Medicaid enrollment of newborns who do not otherwise have insurance.

For the text of the bill with page numbers, see www.defendyourhealthcare.us

Ms. McCaughey is chairman of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths and a former Lt. Governor of New York state.

AMA's Endorsement of House Health Care Bill Sparks Internal Uprising

FOX News

Some AMA members are outraged that the group's trustees made the endorsement without the formal approval of the organization's House of Delegates.

The American Medical Association's much-touted endorsement of the House health care reform bill has triggered a revolt among some members who want the endorsement withdrawn.

Some members are outraged that the group's trustees made the endorsement without the formal approval of the organization's House of Delegates.

On Monday, delegates will vote on a resolution offered by some members that, if approved, will withdraw the AMA’s endorsement of the bill.

President Obama cited the endorsement of the influential AMA, along with AARP's, in a surprise appearance Thursday in the White House briefing room as he attempted to beat back criticism that the bill would gut Medicare.

"They're endorsing this bill because they know it will strengthen Medicare, not jeopardize it," he told reporters. "They know it will protect the benefits our seniors receive, not cut them."

"So I want everyone to remember that the next time you hear the same tired arguments to the contrary from insurance companies and their lobbyists and remember this endorsement the next time you see a bunch of misleading ads on television," he added.

Committee Confirms: Comply With Pelosi-Care Or Go To jail

Big Government

Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

n response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”

Key excerpts from the JCT letter appear below:

“H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” [page 1]

“If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]

“Criminal penalties

Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

• Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.” [page 3]

When confronted with this same issue during its consideration of a similar individual mandate tax, the Senate Finance Committee worked on a bipartisan basis to include language in its bill that shielded Americans from civil and criminal penalties. The Pelosi bill, however, contains no similar language protecting American citizens from civil and criminal tax penalties that could include a $250,000 fine and five years in jail.

“The Senate Finance Committee had the good sense to eliminate the extreme penalty of incarceration. Speaker Pelosi’s decision to leave in the jail time provision is a threat to every family who cannot afford the $15,000 premium her plan creates. Fortunately, Republicans have an alternative that will lower health insurance costs without raising taxes or cutting Medicare,” said Camp.

According to the Congressional Budget Office the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker’s bill would cost $15,000 in 2016.

Wild Thing's comment..........

This Bill is soooo SICK!

WTH???? PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail; Failure to Comply, 5 Years in Prison...

They throw around the American peoples money like it’s monopoly money.I feel like I live in a COMMUNIST country.

The idiots in the Congress have no conception of the firestorm they will unleash. Obama and the US Congress has declared war against the American people.

I am absolutely furious over this and it hasn’t even passed yet. Just the fact that they are considering passing this crap is unbelievable. We’ve written, called, rallied and yelled from the top of our lungs that we don’t want this. The power-hungry crooks aren’t listening and don't even care.

This is the government our forefathers warned us about.

Doing this post, I sat here and cried, just for a little bit because I love America so much and to see this happening, that it might happen breaks my heart. Then I felt sick totally sick to my stomach. We can fight. Remember our forfathers were fighting the British Empire. The Democrats for this are hardly even close to a viable adversary. Americans love peace and family and the wonderful system and country GOD has given us.

UPDATE:....This below MIGHT mean they still do not have the votes.

From The Patriot Room.....

Just got this writing in an e from Rep. Marsha Blackburn:

As I write this, Members are being informed that the health care debate is likely to extend through the weekend. A final vote may not come until Tuesday. The Rules Committee, the body that decides what amendments will and not be considered on H.R. 3962 is meeting now. I am waiting my turn to offer a series of amendments that would make H.R. 3962 a better bill.

Perhaps the most important amendment prevents unfunded mandates from being passed on to the states. This bill expands Medicaid to 150% of the Federal Poverty Level and then sticks Tennessee with part of the bill in the out years. That means that Tennessee would have to find another $1.4 billion by 2019. That's money we just don't have.

I have listed my other amendments at the end of this note.

This morning I was on C-Span's Washington Journal. The host asked me if I agreed with Leader Boehner's assessment that this health care bill is a threat to our freedom. As I answered on C-Span:

"I think people are looking at what has transpired since the first of the year, the philosophical change where there is more government control of most sectors , whether it is investment banking, whether it is consumer credit, whether it is auto manufacturing, student loans, health care. They’re looking at what is happening with energy, when we talk about having cap and tax. They’re looking at what is happening with communication, with what I call 'fairness doctrine for the Internet' They call it net neutrality. It’s not very neutral. People are growing deeply concerned about the shifting of philosophy in this government.”

Yesterday, dozens of Tennesseans were in Washington to express their outrage at this bill. I was inspired by their sacrifice. They know, as do I, that there is a better way, and there are far better bills to fix health care in this country.

My Best,
Marsha

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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November 06, 2009

Yesterday's Rally of 20,000 Washington DC. Against the Health Care Bill of Speaker Pelosi

20,000 to 40,000 people Against the Health Care Bill of Speaker Pelosi. November 5, 2009. View from atop the Dome

Republicans Rally Resistance to Health Care Bill, as House Vote Nears

FOX News

Republicans host a rally against Democrats' health care reform, calling on those who attend to track down their elected representatives in Congress and put pressure on them to think twice about voting for the more than $1 trillion health care overhaul.

As a crowd of protesters shouted "kill the bill," House Republicans on Thursday rallied opposition against the Democrats' health care legislation, decrying the bill on the steps of Congress in a last-ditch bid to derail or at least delay the legislation heading toward a possible vote Saturday.Thousands of protesters arrived by bus for the rally, which the GOP is calling an emergency "House Call." The event drew the conservative "tea party" activists but unlike past rallies was officially sanctioned by House Republicans.

Republicans want those who attend to track down their elected representatives in Congress and put pressure on them to think twice about voting for the more than $1 trillion health care overhaul pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

"They're going to listen," said Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., who originally called for the rally. "The biggest voice in the United States is your voice."

Jon Voight at the Health Care rally tea party in Washington D.C.

Voight: "His agenda is not for the poor it is for his political gain, the lies and propaganda are all very blatant as shown to us by those who exposed ACORN which is as corrupt as all the President's Czars, and Obama is to deny his connection to ACORN claiming no awareness of ACORN's support from all our tax dollars, this country is showing signs of his failed stimulus programs.

His only success in his one year term as President is taking America apart piece by piece. Could it be he has had 20 years of subconsious programming by Reverend Wright to damn America?

Mark Levin Speech At Health Care Tea Party Washington D.C.

"You see that building, you own that building...they are taking a wrecking ball to this magnificent society and that's just the first 9 months"

Wild Thing's comment.......

Fantastic! That was a great turnout, for something during the week and only planned for ONE week. wow!

Posted by Wild Thing at 03:49 AM | Comments (4)

November 05, 2009

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) Admits Pelosi Health Care Bill Will RAISE Taxes

Yarmuth (D-KY) saying, “Yeah – everyone knows healthcare costs are going to go up. We never said they weren’t. We’re just trying to make them go up SLOWER.”

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) admitted to Fox News today that Speaker Pelosi's government takeover of health care won't lower costs for families and small businesses, saying, "Nobody ever believes we can actually bring costs down..." Speaker Pelosi has claimed that her bill which radically increases government spending and imposes crippling tax hikes on families and small businesses is focused on "lowering health care costs for all of us."

Kentucky Congressman John Yarmuth (D) was just on Fox News. In an exchange with Trace Gallagher he admitted that the Democrats never intended for the healthcare legislation to cut cost. Here are the quotes:

Trace: "But I thought the idea was to lower cost."

Yarmuth: "Nobody ever said we were ever going to bring the cost down."

Later in the exchange:

Yarmuth: "Nobody ever believed we could actually bring cost down."

Wild Thing's comment......

LOL oh dear, Obama and Pelosi and the rest of the enemy within are not going to like this Democrat saying that about Taxes. hahahaha The enemy within has been saying no new taxes for this, but all of you know that isi not true. Your all awesome I love all your input on things, thank you so much.

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November 04, 2009

Rep. Michele Bachmann, Mark Levin Thursday at High Noon, East Steps of Capitol

Washington News Observer sat down with Rep. Michele Bachmann to discuss the latest twist and turns in the health care debate. Rep. Bachmann has taken the lead in calling for citizens concerned about a government take over of health care to rally at the U.S. Capitol on Thursday, November 5th and make “house calls” on their members of Congress. Info on that event can be found .....HERE....Renew America!

Talk radio host and best selling author Mark Levin will join with Michelle Bachmann on the Capital Steps on Thursday at noon. Concerned Americans will join the top conservatives to protest the Pelosi nationalized health care disaster.

From the Representative Bachmann’s website:

Bachmann Calls on the American People to Bring the Town Hall To Washington “This is the deciding moment and the people need to make sure their representatives know where they stand.”

Washington, D.C.

WHAT: Health Care “House Call” on Washington Press Conference

WHO: Republican Members of Congress Americans concerned about our health care future Other Guests – TBA

WHEN: Thursday, November 5, 2009 from 12:00-1

WHERE: East Front Steps of the U.S. Capitol (House Side)

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann released the following statement as the House of Representatives approaches a vote on the Democrats’ health care reform proposal:

“The American people spoke loud and clear at town hall meetings all across the country throughout August. But, it would appear that Congress didn’t hear a word they had to say. The Democrats’ latest health care proposal unveiled late last week may be packaged a little differently, but it’s the same old bad bill as before.

“This bill is a trillion-dollar, budget-busting, government takeover of our health care system. It will put bureaucrats between people and their health care. It will lead to rationed care, hurting the most vulnerable amongst us first. It will break the bank, leaving our children to pay the bill with diminished freedoms and dwindling prosperity.

“The American people need to stand up again and make sure that Congress hears them this time. Speaker Pelosi is putting her bill on fast track to a vote – and it remains to be seen if the House will even get a chance to vote on the commonsense Republican alternatives. The people need to make a House Call on Washington this week and tell their Representatives to vote no to a government take-over of one-fifth of our economy. This is gangster government at its worst.

“I urge all Americans to come to Washington this Thursday. Come and meet up with your Representative and tell them that you want to control your health care.”

Bachmann believes this is one of the last chances to stop Pelosi’s push to bring Socialized Medicine to America:

“The American people need to stand up again and make sure that Congress hears them this time. Speaker Pelosi is putting her bill on fast track to a vote – and it remains to be seen if the House will even get a chance to vote on the commonsense Republican alternatives. The people need to make a House Call on Washington this week and tell their Representatives to vote no to a government take-over of one-fifth of our economy. This is gangster government at its worst.”

Wild Thing's comment..........

Actor Jon Voight will also be giving a speech at the rally. He is a Troop loving patriot and a strong Conservative. Great to see he's going to be there too.

.... Thank you Jim for sending this to me.

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November 03, 2009

The Price of Pelosi Bill is Now Up to $1.2 Trillion and Threatens U.S. Medical Education System

The Price of Pelosi Bill is Now Up to $1.2 Trillion

USA Today

The health care bill headed for a vote in the House this week costs $1.2 trillion or more over a decade, according to numerous Democratic officials and figures contained in an analysis by congressional budget experts, far higher than the $900 billion cited by President Obama as a price tag for his reform plan.

While the Congressional Budget Office has put the cost of expanding coverage in the legislation at roughly $1 trillion, Democrats added billions more on higher spending for public health, a reinsurance program to hold down retiree health costs, payments for preventive services and more.

Many of the additions are designed to improve benefits or ease access to coverage in government programs. The officials who provided overall cost estimates did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss them.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has referred repeatedly to the bill's net cost of $894 billion over a decade for coverage.

Asked about the higher estimate, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said the measure not only insures 36 million more Americans, it provides critical health insurance reform in a way that is fiscally sound.

"It will not add one dime to the deficit. In fact, the CBO said last week that it will reduce the deficit both in the first 10 years and in the second 10 years," Daly said.

Republicans put the cost of the bill at nearly $1.3 trillion.

"Our goal is to make it as difficult as possible for" Democrats to pass it, House Republican leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said at a news conference. "We believe it is the wrong prescription."

One day after announcing Republicans would have an alternative measure, Boehner offered few details. He said it would omit one of the central provisions in Democratic bills — a ban on the insurance industry's practice of denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions. Instead, he said the Republicans would encourage creation of insurance pools for high-risk individuals and take other steps to ease their access to coverage.

Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., the third-ranking leader, said that Democrats looked at their bill as a way to advance universal coverage. In contrast, he said, Republicans "believe the real issue back home is cost" of insurance, and said their alternative would be designed to tackle it.

In House bill, tax hits rich

The typical family would be spared higher taxes from the House Democratic plan to overhaul health care, and their low-income neighbors could come out ahead.

Their wealthy counterparts, however, face big tax increases that could eventually hit future generations of taxpayers who are less wealthy.

The bill is funded largely from a 5.4% tax on individuals making more than $500,000 a year and couples making more than $1 million, starting in 2011. The tax increase would hit only 0.3% of tax filers, raising $460.5 billion over the next 10 years, according to congressional estimates.

But unlike other income tax rates, the new tax would not be indexed for inflation. As incomes rise over time because of inflation, more families — and more small business owners — would be hit by the tax.

"Twenty years from now, we're going to see more and more small businesses ensnared into paying higher taxes," said Rep. Dave Camp of Michigan, the top Republican on the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee.

The tax would hit only 1.2% of taxpayers who claim business income on their returns, according to the estimates by the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation. But that percentage would grow as business owners' nominal incomes rise with inflation.

In 2011, a family of four with an income of $800,000 a year would get a $24,000 tax increase, when the new tax is combined with an increase in the top two tax brackets proposed by President Obama and other scheduled tax changes, according to an analysis by Deloitte Tax. That's a 12.5% increase in federal income taxes.

A family of four making $5 million a year would see a $434,500 tax increase, about a 32% increase, according to the analysis.

"These are very big numbers and very high effective tax rates," said Clint Stretch, a tax policy expert at Deloitte Tax.

The new health care tax would come on top of other tax increases for the wealthy proposed by Obama. The top marginal income tax rate now is 35%, on income above $372,950. Obama wants to boost the top rate to 39.6% in 2011 by allowing some of the tax cuts enacted under former President George W. Bush to expire.

House Democrats said they are proud that they found a way to finance the health care package largely from a tax on the wealthy. There is, however, little appetite for a millionaire's tax in the Senate, where some hope to eventually use tax increases on the wealthy to help close the growing federal budget deficit. Also, some tax experts think it is a mistake to tap only rich people to pay for services used by all.

"If health care is a benefit that is worth having, then it's worth paying for," said William Gale, who was an adviser to President George H. W. Bush's Council of Economic Advisers and is now co-director of the Tax Policy Center. "This gives the impression that it's only worth having if someone else pays for it."

Obama promised during the presidential campaign that he would not increase taxes on couples making less than $250,000. However, the health care bill would impose new taxes on people who don't buy qualified health insurance, including those making less than $250,000 a year.

Under the bill, individuals are required to obtain health insurance coverage or pay penalties, which are described as taxes in the legislation. The penalty would be equal to the cost of an average insurance plan or a 2.5% tax on incomes above the standard threshold for filing a tax return, whichever is less. There would be waivers for financial hardships.

To help afford insurance, families with incomes up to four times the federal poverty level would qualify for subsidies. The poverty level for a family of four is $22,050 this year.

Republicans argue that the penalties violate Obama's tax pledge, and they liken the millionaire's tax to the Alternative Minimum Tax, which Congress enacted in 1969 to ensure that wealthy Americans cannot use loopholes to avoid paying any income taxes.

The AMT was never indexed for inflation, so Congress must enact a fix each year to spare about 25 million middle-income families from being hit with big tax increases.

"They're going down the same road by not indexing this tax," said the Republican lawmaker Camp.

Obamacare Threatens U.S. Medical Education System

The federal government will expand its role in training new doctors and nurses under the Democrats' healthcare reform proposals to the point that one prominent surgeon is warning of a federal "takeover" of medical education.

The HR 3962 reform bill that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unveiled last week would provide billions in medical-education grants.

Some of those grants would help future doctors and nurses pay for their degrees in return for their participation in specific disciplines or programs.

Other grants would pay organizations to create educational and training programs under the auspices of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Democrats say the programs are a necessary aspect of bringing another 36 million individuals into the U.S. healthcare system.

The Association of American Medical Programs projects a shortage of between 124,000 and 159,000 physicians by 2025. Reform will aggravate that shortfall by an additional 25 percent, the association states.

"There is mounting evidence that a physician workforce shortage exists in primary care as well as in a number of other specialties," according to the association's report.

Opponents of healthcare reform warn that universal coverage under these circumstances can only lead to one thing: rationing of healthcare.

Fox News contributor and Newsmax pundit Dick Morris, for example, writes: "Because there will not be enough doctors, nurses, and medical equipment for the massive influx of patients under the Obama plan, there will be rationing, more draconian year after year."

Spending federal dollars to bolster training and education, and directing it toward fields in short supply, would seem one way to address that problem. But some medical experts see a darker intent behind the extensive, medical-education provisions in the reform bills that are now under consideration in the House and Senate.

Dr. Russell Blaylock, a board-certified neurosurgeon and author who is editor of the Blaylock Wellness Report published by Newsmax Media Inc., warns that reform proposals portend a "takeover of the entire medical-education system."

Blaylock told Newsmax he foresees the day when medical schools "will have to get federal approval, that they will appoint professors and set curriculum for the schools and they will direct residence and intern-training programs and set curriculum for these training programs."

He added, "Now, that means. . . federalization of medical education in the United States, which is the open door for federal medical license."

Among provisions in the House bill that suggest a bulked-up federal role in medical education:

~snipet~

Increased federal involvement in medical education indicates that proponents of reform "are lying," and intend to socialize the healthcare sector, Blaylock told Newsmax. Healthcare accounts for approximately one-sixth of the nation's economy.

"If you look at the history of the socialization of medicine in every country in the world it all started the same way," he said. "It's piecemeal, where there's a group of people who are not covered, and all we are trying to do is cover them. Well, then there is another group that needs to be covered, so now we cover them. And then you say, 'Well, if those two groups are getting it, why should we do it for everybody else.'"

North Carolina Rep. Virginia Foxx speaking from the House Floor today, where she said her constituents tell her they "fear" what is happening in America today - fear the loss of freedom and what the future holds. Rep. Foxx said they should be afraid. In fact, Foxx said:

“I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country."

Saying the Democrats' Health Care Bill, which she said is a "tax increase bill masquerading as a Health Care Bill."

Wild Thing's comment.........

And that’s in addition to all the costs they are pushing out to the States, Individuals, health care providers, and pharmaceuticals.

On the second article, I get the Blaylock Wellness Report that Dr. Baylock does and it is awesome. It always has tons of good infomration on supplements and vitamins and how to stay healthy and good thing to do to make ones heart healthy.

Can you imagine too not enough doctors and nurses etc. once this all goes into effect. Very scary.

Fox News contributor and Newsmax pundit Dick Morris, for example, writes: "Because there will not be enough doctors, nurses, and medical equipment for the massive influx of patients under the Obama plan, there will be rationing, more draconian year after year."

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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November 02, 2009

'Personhood' Movement Explodes in 32 States

'Personhood' movement explodes in 32 states

Pro-lifers: Wildfire effort could be death blow to abortion in Obamacare

A pro-life movement seeking to guarantee basic human rights to unborn babies is exploding in 32 states – and leaders say it could be just the key to nullifying abortion provisions in President Obama's health-care "reform."

While abortion was not specifically mentioned in earlier bills under consideration, H.R.3962, unveiled by Nancy Pelosi this week, does in fact state abortion is to be covered. Concerns are mounting that whatever the final form of the legislation, the procedure will become more accessible, requiring health insurance companies to fund abortions.

Gualberto Garcia Jones is director of Personhood Colorado and a legal analyst for Personhood USA, a grassroots Christian organization that seeks to legally define every unborn baby as a "person" protected by God-given and constitutionally protected rights, including the right to life. His organization was set up to support personhood efforts across America through legislation and constitutional amendments.

"We're trying to end abortion right now," Garcia Jones told WND. "All of our laws that we're promoting are direct challenges to Roe v. Wade. If we can get a challenge up to the Supreme Court, then that's the ideal thing. That's what we're trying to do."

The personhood approach within the pro-life movement was sparked by a statement in the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that opened the doors for legal abortion in the U.S.

Justice Harry Blackmun wrote in the majority opinion for Roe v. Wade, "The appellee and certain amici [pro-lifers] argue that the fetus is a 'person' within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well-known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the [14th] Amendment."

According to the movement, if every unborn baby is defined as a person, each baby will be legally guaranteed the same right to life as all Americans.

"We believe – and a lot of the justices on the Supreme Court agree with us – that there is no right to privacy that would allow abortion," Garcia Jones said. "Since it's not mentioned directly in the 14th Amendment, we could use the 10th Amendment and the states' rights to police themselves and to pass laws regulating morality and health and safety to regulate abortion so it's not permitted. Basically it would be treated the same way as a homicide, where a state can regulate how they punish it and how they try to prevent it, but they could never allow it."

He continued, "We believe respect for life is in the Constitution, so therefore a state could never say you can kill a person."

Garcia Jones said the personhood movement is a timely approach considering the widespread success of the tea party movement, the states' rights movement and voter frustration with what they consider overreaching policies by the federal government.

He said citizens in 32 states are now acting to find sponsors for personhood statutes or constitutional amendments to include them on 2010 ballots.

"It's taken off so much that we're having trouble keeping up with it," he said. "Colorado, Montana, Missouri, Mississippi and California are all in the process of getting signatures."

The Los Angeles Times reported Sept. 28 that while personhood measures failed in Montana and North Dakota legislatures earlier this year, "the close votes alarmed supporters of legal abortion."

According to WND columnist Jill Stanek, pro-life legislators in Alaska, Arkansas, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana and Texas have also signaled their intent to introduce personhood statutes.

A national pro-life group is warning members of Congress that a vote in favor of the 1,990-page House healthcare bill is a vote to establish a federal government program that will fund abortion-on-demand with taxpayer dollars.

Page 110 the Affordable Health Care for America Act, authorizes a new government health insurance program to pay for all elective abortions.

Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee, says: "This is a federal agency, a federal program, [and] of course it's going to spend federal funds -- that's the only kind of funds it's got. So all of these assurances that some prominent Democrats, including President Obama, have given that there won't be federal funding for abortions, that's not what's in the bill."

Mr. Johnson maintains that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-California) wants to ram the bill through Congress without the House Members having the opportunity to vote on a single amendment.

Wild Thing's comment........

This is so horrible, that they would force all of us to pay for abortions in this anti-life healh care of Obama's. I sure hope the group mentioned in the article can stop it. I bet a lot of people don't even know it is in the bill.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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November 01, 2009

Pelosi Health Care Bill Blow a Kiss At Trial Lawyers

Bachman also announced that if this bill passes the Obama Administration will have taken over 48% of the private economy this year.

Rep. Michelle Bachman is calling all Americans to join her on the steps of the Capital Building in Washington DC on Thursday November 5th to stop “the Crown Jewel of Socialism” – the democrat’s bill to take over the US health care industry.

Pelosi Health Care Bill Blow a Kiss At Trial Lawyers

Big Government

The health care bill recently unveiled by Speaker Nancy Pelosi is over 1,900 pages for a reason. It is much easier to dispense goodies to favored interest groups if they are surrounded by a lot of legislative legalese. For example, check out this juicy morsel to the trial lawyers (page 1431-1433 of the bill):

Section 2531, entitled “Medical Liability Alternatives,” establishes an incentive program for states to adopt and implement alternatives to medical liability litigation. [But]…… a state is not eligible for the incentive payments if that state puts a law on the books that limits attorneys’ fees or imposes caps on damages.

So, you can’t try to seek alternatives to lawsuits if you’ve actually done something to implement alternatives to lawsuits. Brilliant! The trial lawyers must be very happy today!

While there is debate over the details, it is clear that medical malpractive lawsuits have some impact on driving health care costs higher. There are likely a number of procedures that are done simply as a defense against future possible litigation. Recall this from the Washington Post:

“Lawmakers could save as much as $54 billion over the next decade by imposing an array of new limits on medical malpractice lawsuits, congressional budget analysts said today — a substantial sum that could help cover the cost of President Obama’s overhaul of the nation’s health system. New research shows that legal reforms would not only lower malpractice insurance premiums for medical providers, but would also spur providers to save money by ordering fewer tests and procedures aimed primarily at defending their decisions in court, Douglas Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, wrote in a letter to Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).”

Stay tuned. There are certainly many more terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad provisions in this massive bill.

Wild Thing's comment.......

What this article says and all the other things show us why Pelosi insisted on closed doors being required to write the provisions.

Nancy Pelosi, YOU LIE. You do NOT oversee the most ethical Congress in history. Resign NOW, lying crooked witch.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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October 31, 2009

Obama's Controlling Our Lives Government Care

Premiums to Skyrocket Under Obamacare

By: David A. Patten

Skyrocketing insurance premiums will slam millions of consumers next year because of "indirect taxes" contained in both the House and Senate versions of healthcare reform, according to various medical and insurance industry experts.

Healthcare reforms that were supposed to contain costs actually will cause a sharp hike in premiums, they add. In fact, several studies indicate consumers' premiums could more than double next year if healthcare reform takes effect.

"So even though this bill tries to hide these costs as indirect taxes," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, recently told a business symposium, "average Americans who purchase health plans, take prescription drugs, or use medical devices will end up footing the bill."

The rate hikes stem from the hundreds of billions in proposed fees and taxes levied on providers.

For example, the Finance Committee's proposal would assess $322 billion in taxes and fees on insurance premiums, prescription drugs, and medical devices, according to the Senate's Joint Committee on Taxation.

The committee and other experts say virtually all of those costs will be passed along to consumers in all tax brackets — despite President Barack Obama's pledge not to raise taxes "one dime" on those earning less than $250,000 per year.

Another likely frustration for consumers: The premium hikes will take effect right away, while the subsidies and benefits in healthcare reform won't kick in completely until 2014.

Scott Gottlieb, a physician and American Enterprise Institute resident fellow, stated Thursday in a New York Post op-ed that, by front-loading the costs and back-loading benefits, Congress is resorting to "a gimmick that imposes a stiff price on the public."

That "gimmick," Gottlieb claims: using 10 years of added fees and taxes on providers to offset about five years worth of benefits. Those costs "will immediately shift onto consumers, in the form of higher prices on medical products and rising premiums," he says.

Democrats have promised to insure an additional 35 million Americans, without raising taxes or increasing the tsunami of deficit red ink spilling out of Washington these days. ( LIES more LIES ~ Wild Thing )

Douglas Holtz-Eakin, the former director of the Congressional Budget Office, appeared to concur with Gottlieb's assessment in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed.

"These costs will be passed on to consumers by either directly raising insurance premiums, or by fueling higher health-care costs that inevitably lead to higher premiums," he wrote.

The bottom line: Most voters will be paying higher premiums for years before they see any benefits. That could spell serious trouble for Democrats in the 2010 midterm elections.

The Senate bill proposes $2.3 billion in fees on brand-name drugs, $4 billion on medical devices, and $6.7 billion levied on insurance companies, plus more than $100 billion in Medicare reimbursements to medical providers — all costs that would be shifted back onto consumers.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi's House bill appears even more expensive. It would impose $150 billion in Medicare cuts on the pharmaceutical industry, and a 2.5 percent tax on companies that manufacture medical devices.

"Most of astounding of all," Holtz-Eakin wrote, "is what this Congress is willing to do to struggling middle-class families. The bill would impose nearly $400 billion in new taxes and fees. Nearly 90 percent of that burden will be shouldered by those making $200,000 or less."

~ snipet ~

The spiraling costs contained in the Affordable Health Care for America Act that Pelosi unveiled Thursday drew heavy fire:

Competitive Enterprise Institute senior fellow Gregory Conko called the bill "a recipe for exploding costs," adding: "The Affordable Health Care for America Act is anything but affordable. It will force millions of Americans to pay higher health insurance premiums, it taxes individuals who would like to purchase insurance options that don’t meet standards set by Washington bureaucrats, and it forces businesses and individuals to pay for insurance benefits they don’t want and don’t need."

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, the National Association of Manufacturers, and seven other major associations sent a letter to Pelosi warning the legislation "falls short of the bipartisan goal of controlling costs."

Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., the chairman of the House Republican Conference, told CNN the Pelosi plan "looks like another freight train of big government with more taxes, more mandate and more spending – and that's not what the American people want in healthcare reform." He added that a search showed the nearly 2,000-page bill contains the directive "shall" 3,425 times.

Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., remarked: "The people of this country want reforms that provide them with more choices, more competition, more innovation, higher quality, and lower costs. Instead, Democrat leaders have worked in secret to write a bill that does exactly the opposite."

Karen Ignagni, the president of the America's Health Insurance Plans trade group that lobbies Congress on behalf of insurance companies, called the proposal "a missed opportunity." Ignagni predicted "families and employers will not be able to afford coverage and healthcare costs will rise at a rate much faster than the overall economy is able to sustain." In addition to the Wellpoint study, AHIP says three other reports, including one by PricewaterhouseCoopers, project that the legislative proposals will cause premiums to increase "far faster and higher" than they would under the present system.

ObamaCare Debate : Freedom vs. Oppression

Big Government

On September 22, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln issued The Emancipation Proclamation:

“That on the 1st day of January, in the year of our Lord 1863, all persons held as slaves within any state or designated part of a state, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom. . . And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind and the gracious favor of Almighty God.”

With these words President Lincoln ended slavery – a flagrant violation of the institutions of the United States of America, “a government of, by and for all the people.”

The institution of slavery denied essential freedoms to fellow Americans. Today, in 2009, another freedom is being denied to every man, woman and child — freedom of health care.

The Obama Health Care Plan is the instruction manual and play book for this mandate.

These “Masters” of Health Care are trying to deny individuals the freedom to choose what doctor you can see, what medicine you can take, what hospital you can go to, and how you spend your health care dollars. They even take it a step further in the Obama Health Care Plan, determining – IF – yes, IF you can be treated. These “Masters” of Health Care are driving us to unnecessary pain, suffering, and, in some cases, death.

If any American chooses NOT to have coverage, as millions currently do, then they will be fined. If they do NOT pay the fine then they will penalized $25,000 or ‘Go To Jail’…..Go directly to jail without passing Go.

But the penalties, taxes and punishments do not stop there. In fact, President Obama, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid do NOT want you to consider the taxes really to be taxes. On page 203 of the health care bill (the one that is currently available to the public) it is stated, “The tax imposed under this section shall NOT be treated as a tax imposed.” I kid you not…..how dumb do they think we are?

While out of one side of his mouth President Obama claims there will not be an increase in “taxes,” it has also been reported that a provision to tax medical appliances has been proposed to partially fund the health care plan.

The Senate recently exempted medical items that cost under $100 — such as tampons and condoms. But the tax, expected to raise about $40 billion over the next decade, is still in the bill and includes items like:

•Pacemakers
•Hip joint replacements
•Gastrointestinal tubes
•Artificial hearts
•Hearing aids
•Porcelain teeth
•Heart defibrillators
•Prosthetic heart valve rotators
•Powered wheelchairs
•Ventilators

The Medical Device Manufacturer’s Association said that the tax would hurt them, as well as those who need medical devices.

The rationing of care in the Two Part Obama Health Care Plan is implemented through a Council, equivalent to the National Health Care Board in the British Health Care System. The name given to this panel is The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research (“Federal Council”). (Section 9201 H.R. 1 Version of the Stimulus Bill.)

President Obama has already appointed the fifteen-member Federal Council. According to the Stimulus Bill, p. 152, all members of the Council must be “senior federal officers or employees.” Thus, medical treatment will be dispensed by a group of bureaucrats from their ivory towers, not by the hands-on practitioners in the presence of the patients. The council was funded with $1.1 BILLION from the stimulus bill.

It becomes evident that the Obama health Care plan as advanced by Pelosi, Reid and the Democrat majority in the House and Senate is NOT about bringing affordability and availability to the health care system. This insidious Plan is about wresting control of every American’s life and death through penalties, punishments, taxes and coercion.

Wild Thing's comment..........

A lot of trees died for this POS bill and a lot of PEOPLE may die if this POS bill passes.

Obama and Congress and the central government are a danger to our health.

111TH CONGRESS, 1ST SESSION
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
A 1990 Page BILL

To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other bullshit purposes.

What the .. HECK is This doing in a "Health care" Bill???

SEC. 815. SENSE OF CONGRESS REGARDING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND METHAMPHETAMINE ISSUES IN INDIAN COUNTRY.

It is the sense of Congress that Congress encourages State, local, and Indian tribal law enforcement agencies to enter into memoranda of agreement between and among those agencies for purposes of streamlining law enforcement activities and maximizing the use of limited resources—

(1) to improve law enforcement services provided to Indian tribal communities; and
(2) to increase the effectiveness of measures to address problems relating to methamphetamine use in Indian country (as defined in section 1151 of title 18, United States Code).

This has no business being here. No wonder its 1990 pages.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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Possibly Around 40 Dems Line Up Against Federal Abortion Funding in Healthcare Bill

Around 40 Dems line up against federal abortion funding in healthcare bill

The Hill

Approximately 40 House Democrats are prepared to block healthcare reform legislation from coming to the floor should the bill include federal subsidies for abortions, said Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) Friday.

Stupak, who is conservative on social issues, told CNS News that he has organized the voting bloc to support his amendment that would strip the abortion provisions from the legislation. House Rules Committee chairwoman Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.), according to Stupak, said that there is "no way" her panel would provide a vote for his amendment.

The group of 40 would join House Republicans in voting against procedural measure that would draft rules for debating the bill on the House floor. Passage of the measure is necessary for the House to hold a floor vote.

"There’s about 40 like-minded Democrats like myself -- we’ll try to take down the rule," Stupak said. “If all 40 of us vote in a bloc against the rule -- because we think the Republicans will join us -- we can defeat the rule. The magic number is 218. If we can have 218 votes against the rule, we win.”

With 177 Republicans in the House, Stupak would need at least 41 Democrats to cross the aisle and vote against the rule. Stupak's amendment was originally defeated by the House Energy and Commerce Committee during mark-up.

Under language in the Energy and Commerce proposal, one health plan in each health care "exchange" that sells public health insurance must provide coverage for abortion. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is currently in the process of merging the House's three health bills.

“We’re just finishing our conferencing on this legislation,” Pelosi told CNS. “We haven’t even gone through the procedure as to what we’ll do on the floor, if there even are any amendments on the floor.”

Wild Thing's comment........

You’d think Obama might just drop this fairly minor aspect of his enormous health takeover. But just as killing babies was the bottom line for clinton, the one thing he would not give in on (witness the partial birth abortion vetoes), so I think it will be the bottom line for Obama. It’s the one thing he can’t give in on.

It seems as if killing babies is more important to the Democrat leadership than saving babies is to the Republican leadership. They understand what really drives their base.

I am amazed that there is a conservative dem on any issues but I am glad there is ONE that is taking a stand and has plans to try to fight this thing. Republicans surely will join in except probably.

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October 30, 2009

Obama's Socialized Medicine Bill Contains Menu Requirements

House health care bill contains menu requirements

The Washington Times

Tucked inside Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s 1,990-page health care reform bill that was unveiled Thursday is a requirement for chain restaurants to post caloric information on their menus.

Pages 1511-1519 of the bill outline the new laws for restaurants, mandating any restaurants operating in 20 or more locations post caloric information “prominently” on menus in a way that's “designed to enable the public to understand, in the context of a total daily diet, the significance of the caloric information that is provided on the menu.”

That means all the big-name chains, like Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts and McDonald’s will need to post calorie counts next to their offerings, even on their drive-thru menus.

The government will also ensure that vending machines show calorie counts, as well. The bill says that anyone who operates 20 or more vending machines “shall provide a sign in close proximity to each article of food or the selection button that includes a clear and conspicuous statement disclosing the number of calories contained in the article.”

Wild Thing's comment.......

What is the profit margin of restaurants? Seems I heard it is very slim. What are they trying to do? Put them out of business? It is going to cost food establishments a lot of money to change and print all these menus and info sheets.
To compensate they will just increase menu prices...again.

What is next, government mandated menus, this is what you can eat and this is what you cant.

Its coming.. and that’s why I am so TICKED OFF at this push for govt health care.. its not about health.. its about total control of our lifestyles.

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Rush Limbaugh Reaction To Pelosi's LIES and Look At The TAXES In the Bill

Rush Limbaugh reacted to Speaker Pelosi's outrageous announcement that her government run health care plan was 'deficit neutral." Rush says this liar should go to jail and that Bernie Madoff is small fry compared to the theft going on in Washington today.

Here’s the transcript:

RUSH:

As you have probably heard, ladies and gentlemen, Nancy Pelosi just once again claimed that the House health care reform bill will not add one penny to the federal deficit. Of course this is absurd. It will turn out to be absurdly untrue if this thing ever sees the light day of, and when it does, when it does, when it is exposed as a total fraud, when she and everybody else supporting this are exposed as total liars about all of this being deficit neutral, about all of this covering all these people, about everybody getting all this health care for what they think will be nothing, when all of that is exposed, shouldn’t people like Nancy Pelosi, who lie to get such things passed into legislation, have to face some kind of real consequences? This is nothing more than theft. Are they not thieves? They are stealing billions of dollars from US taxpayers, both taxpayers of today and tomorrow. You can’t even say that they’re enriched by their thievery ’cause they do it to buy votes and more power, and some of them do get enriched as a result of all this.

Why shouldn’t people who steal billions of dollars have to go to jail if the small fry like Bernie Madoff has to go to jail? Madoff is chump change compared to Nancy Pelosi, chump change compared to Barney Frank and Harry Reid. This is generational theft that is going on here. I mean let’s step back. Nancy Pelosi is the most radical Speaker of the House ever, from one of the most radical communities in the nation, San Francisco. She’s pushing this newest proposal now. She’s never cared about costs before, she doesn’t care about them now. She’s never cared about economic reality before because she’s insulated from it. She is wealthy. Her husband is wealthy beyond their wildest dreams. She is George McGovern on hormones, steroids and everything else, and she sees this as the best way for her and her ilk to remain in power for decades.

Folks, both the Senate bill, Dingy Harry’s little bill over there and Pelosi’s bill today are time bombs. They are ticking time bombs. They are designed to destroy private insurance companies and thus the economy. If you look at it from their standpoint these are brilliantly conceived bills and they’re guaranteed to work, they are going to do exactly what these Democrats intend. If they are passed, only massive Republican gains in 2010 and 2012 can diffuse this time bomb because the stuff doesn’t get implemented until after the 2012 election if it passes.

TAXES IN OBAMACARE

The Bill is called the "Affordable Health Care for America Act." The irony comes from the fact that it is loaded with new taxes, there is nothing affordable about this legislation which increase the burden of both businesses and taxpayers. Below is a comprehensive list compiled by ATR which shows each new tax in the House bill:

Source...The Lid Blog

Employer Mandate Excise Tax (Page 275): If an employer does not pay 72.5 percent of a single employee’s health premium (65 percent of a family employee), the employer must pay an excise tax equal to 8 percent of average wages. Small employers (measured by payroll size) have smaller payroll tax rates of 0 percent (<$500,000), 2 percent ($500,000-$585,000), 4 percent ($585,000-$670,000), and 6 percent ($670,000-$750,000).

Individual Mandate Surtax (Page 296): If an individual fails to obtain qualifying coverage, he must pay an income surtax equal to the lesser of 2.5 percent of modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) or the average premium. MAGI adds back in the foreign earned income exclusion and municipal bond interest.

Medicine Cabinet Tax (Page 324): Non-prescription medications would no longer be able to be purchased from health savings accounts (HSAs), flexible spending accounts (FSAs), or health reimbursement arrangements (HRAs). Insulin excepted.

Cap on FSAs (Page 325): FSAs would face an annual cap of $2500 (currently uncapped).

Increased Additional Tax on Non-Qualified HSA Distributions (Page 326): Non-qualified distributions from HSAs would face an additional tax of 20 percent (current law is 10 percent). This disadvantages HSAs relative to other tax-free accounts (e.g. IRAs, 401(k)s, 529 plans, etc.)

Denial of Tax Deduction for Employer Health Plans Coordinating with Medicare Part D (Page 327): This would further erode private sector participation in delivery of Medicare services.

Surtax on Individuals and Small Businesses (Page 336): Imposes an income surtax of 5.4 percent on MAGI over $500,000 ($1 million married filing jointly). MAGI adds back in the itemized deduction for margin loan interest. This would raise the top marginal tax rate in 2011 from 39.6 percent under current law to 45 percent—a new effective top rate.

Excise Tax on Medical Devices (Page 339): Imposes a new excise tax on medical device manufacturers equal to 2.5 percent of the wholesale price. It excludes retail sales and unspecified medical devices sold to the general public.

Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting (Page 344): Requires that 1099-MISC forms be issued to corporations as well as persons for trade or business payments. Current law limits to just persons for small business compliance complexity reasons. Also expands reporting to exchanges of property.

Delay in Worldwide Allocation of Interest (Page 345): Delays for nine years the worldwide allocation of interest, a corporate tax relief provision from the American Jobs Creation Act

Limitation on Tax Treaty Benefits for Certain Payments (Page 346): Increases taxes on U.S. employers with overseas operations looking to avoid double taxation of earnings.

Codification of the “Economic Substance Doctrine” (Page 349): Empowers the IRS to disallow a perfectly legal tax deduction or other tax relief merely because the IRS deems that the motive of the taxpayer was not primarily business-related.

Application of “More Likely Than Not” Rule (Page 357): Publicly-traded partnerships and corporations with annual gross receipts in excess of $100 million have raised standards on penalties. If there is a tax underpayment by these taxpayers, they must be able to prove that the estimated tax paid would have more likely than not been sufficient to cover final tax liability.

Wild Thing's comment......

I love it how Rush comes out of the box with both barrels firing.

Nobody is going to be able to comply with this bill. You’ll have to hire a lawyer and an accountant to ensure compliance. Small business owners who are barely making it in today’s economy will go under.

This is supposed to be the BILL Nancy Pelosi has now, the 1,900 page Bill for government health death bill .

http://health.burgess.house.gov/UploadedFiles/House_HCR_bill.pdf

1990 pages is almost 4 REAMS of paper. Need to be a speed reader to get through the bill in 72 hours. You’d have to read 27.63 pages per hour at that rate. If you took time off to work or sleep and had only 6 hours per 3-days you’d need to read 110 pages per hour. (1990 divided by 18 hours spent reading.)

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 02:49 AM | Comments (4)

October 29, 2009

Speaker Pelosi Denies public Access to Health Care Public Plan Announcement

Minority Whip Eric Cantor's office depicted a Republican staffer attempting to attend the press conference and being turned away by a police officer

Her comeback answer was far too quick-minded to be anything other than a staged response. She's not that bright enough to think of that one off the cuff, and she didn't show any anger. And besides, Dems always need to have a villain: the insurance companies.

She staged a protest with Code Pink about Iraq some time back. Invited them onto the stage with her. This is an old playbook with her.

The bottom line here is that if this were a good bill, she would be having every ordinary citizen with her on that stage. The bill stinks and she knows it.

Source:
Eric Cantor ( Republican Whip)

Cantor: Pelosi 'Denied Access to the Public' During Televised Presser

John Boehner: Democrats Bill a Government Takeover

House Democratic bill ceremony closed to public

The Washington Times

House Democrats blocked the public from attending the unveiling ceremony of their health-care bill Thursday morning, allowing only pre-approved visitors whose names appeared on lists to enter the event at the West side of the Capitol.

The audience at the crowded press conference included Hill staffers, union workers, health care providers and students, according to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who thanked them for attending.

The West side of the Capitol - the area where President Barack Obama was inaugurated - is traditionally open to the public. But the entrances were blocked off Thursday morning by metal fences, with Capitol police officers standing next to staff members holding clipboards with lists of approved attendees.

Reporters with press badges were able to get in.

Democrats repeatedly touted the openness of the development of their health care bill, which House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer called "the most deliberative, transparent and open process" he had seen in his career on Capitol Hill.

If this was invitation-only, who shouted the ‘burn in hell’ remark in the bullhorn that gave Pelousy the opening to take a shot at insurance companies??? An obvious staged outburst!!!!!

Nancy not-so-bright strikes again. Lock out Republicans so they don’t blow the cover of the union-staged outburst. Pathetic.

She staged a protest with Code Pink about Iraq some time back. Invited them onto the stage with her. This is an old playbook with her.

The bottom line here is that if this were a good bill, she would be having every ordinary citizen with her on that stage. The bill stinks and she knows it.

Wild Thing's comment........

The botox has done something to this woman’s brain.

Also I also heard a bunch of seniors were arrested at Pelosi's conference for protesting her. It was all roped off and sealed. Hard-working taxpayers not welcome.

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Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan

This awesome Graphic from Rush Limbaugh webstie

Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan

Politico

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that he’d back a GOP filibuster of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s health care reform bill.

Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats and is positioning himself as a fiscal hawk on the issue, said he opposes any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance program — even if it includes a provision allowing states to opt out of the program, as Reid has said the Senate bill will.

"We're trying to do too much at once," Lieberman said. “To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now."

Asked about Lieberman’s threat to filibuster a final vote on the Reid plan, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said: "I haven't seen the report from Sen. Lieberman or why he's saying what he's saying. I think Democrats and Republicans alike will be held accountable by their constituents who want to see health care reform enacted this year.”

Lieberman said that he’d vote against a public option plan “even with an opt-out because it still creates a whole new government entitlement program for which taxpayers will be on the line."

His comments confirmed that Reid is short of the 60 votes needed to advance the bill out of the Senate, even after Reid included the opt-out provision. Several other moderate Democrats expressed skepticism at the proposal as well, but most of the wavering Democratic senators did not go as far as Lieberman Tuesday, saying they were waiting to see the details.

Lieberman did say he's "strongly inclined" to vote to proceed to the debate, but that he’ll ultimately vote to block a floor vote on the bill if it isn’t changed first.

"I've told Sen. Reid that if the bill stays as it is now I will vote against cloture,” he said.

“I can’t see a way in which I could vote for cloture on any bill that contained a creation of a government-operated-run insurance company,” Lieberman added. “It’s just asking for trouble – in the end, the taxpayers are going to pay and probably all people who have health insurance are going to see their premiums go up because there’s going to be cost shifting as there has been for Medicare and Medicaid.”

Reid’s response was restrained.

“I don't have anyone that I have worked harder with, have more respect for in the Senate than Joe Lieberman,” he said Tuesday afternoon. “ As you know, he's my friend. There are a lot of senators, Democrat and Republicans, who don't like part of what's in this bill that we sent over to CBO. We're going to see what the final product is. We're not there yet. Sen. Lieberman will let us get on [to begin debating] the bill, and he'll be involved in the amendment process.”

Lieberman said he “very much” wants to vote for health care reform but that he’s worried about stifling “the economic recovery we’re in” or adding to the federal debt.

“I feel this way about a national, government-created health insurance company – whether it’s a trigger or not,” he said. “My answer is – we’re – we have the opportunity to do some great reforms here. These exchanges that we’re talking about, I think, are going to drive competition and probably bring the cost of health insurance down or at least contain the cost increases for a lot of people. Let’s give that two or three years to see how it works to see how it works before we talk about creating another entitlement that will end up increasing the national debt and putting more of a burden on taxpayers.”

Wild Thing's comment.......

We don’t need it now. We don’t need it ever! We need to get the gov’t out of the healthcare all together.

The bill will increase taxes, enlarge the federal deficit, infringe on states' rights, eliminate individual choice, and collectivize one-seventh of the economy. Those are all good reasons to flush Obamacare down the tubes!

LOL thought you all might have a good laugh at this one...............

Harry Reid Says Republicans are Like the "Girls Who Wouldn't Dance With Him in High School"....

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans Formal Announcement of Obamacare Bill Today

House Dems reach deal on key health care elements

Breitbart

House Democrats reached agreement Wednesday on key elements of a health care bill that would vastly alter America's medical landscape, requiring virtually universal sign-ups and establishing a new government-run insurance option for millions.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans a formal announcement Thursday morning, but details were still being finalized, lawmakers and aides said. Officials said the legislation could be up for a vote on the House floor next week.

The rollout would cap months of arduous negotiations to bridge differences between liberal and moderate Democrats and blend health care overhaul bills passed by three separate committees over the summer. The developments in the House came as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., tried to round up support among moderate Democrats for his bill, which includes a modified government insurance option that states could opt out of.

Reid met Thursday with Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln, who faces a potentially tough re-election next year.

The final product in the House, reflecting many of President Barack Obama's priorities, includes new requirements for employers to offer insurance to their workers or face penalties, fines on Americans who don't purchase coverage and subsidies to help lower-income people do so. Insurance companies would face new prohibitions against charging much more to older people or denying coverage to people with health conditions.

The price tag, topping $1 trillion over 10 years, would be paid for by taxing high-income people and cutting some $500 billion in payments to Medicare providers. The legislation would extend health coverage to around 95 percent of Americans.

Plenty of work remains to be done before a bill could land on Obama's desk—and there's still no guarantee that Congress can complete the legislation before year's end, as the president wants.

House leaders hope to finish the bill before Veteran's Day, Nov. 11. The Senate is aiming to start debate sometime in the next several weeks.

Bills passed by the House and Senate would have to be merged before a final product could be sent to Obama, and there are a number of differences between the two chambers that would have to be reconciled. Among them are the different approaches to the public plan. The House does not include the opt-out provision for states, and it has more stringent requirements for employers. The Senate would use a tax on high-value insurance plans to pay for the bill, an approach that the House version doesn't have.

In the end, Pelosi, D-Calif., and other House leaders were unable to round up the necessary votes for their preferred version of the government insurance plan—one that would base payment rates to providers on rates paid by Medicare. Instead, the Health and Human Services secretary would negotiate rates with providers, the approach preferred by moderates and the one that will be featured in the Senate's version.

Democratic leaders still faced disputes over prohibiting taxpayer money for abortions and health care for illegal immigrants, issues they hoped to resolve after the bill's unveiling.

Good interview with Mike Pence about Obamacare and the democrats doing everything being closed doors and not letting the Republicans know anything about what is in the bill.......................

Wild Thing's comment.........

When Pelosi House democrats release their version of Obamacare . It will be the first time that Republicans have seen the bill.

In the US Senate, Republicans have not seen the Democrat’s health care legislation that was evaluated by the CBO.

Obama and his crowd are "Progressives" they need to be erradicated. They are all Communists plain and simple.

There is no way this is Constitutional !! There is no way the Constitution allows government to force we the people to purchase any product or service.

The only problem is that it is a near certainty that Article III Section 2 of the Constitution will be invoked. The final bill will remove the courts from jurisdiction.

How many times have you read that only a moral people can ensure the survival of our Constitution? Well, the immoral people elected many immoral Congressmen and Senators who lied when they swore to “support and defend.” The end result is immoral law which violates our Natural Rights.

A bill that takes away our freedom in the name of giving us security doesn't deserve to become a law in America.

Posted by Wild Thing at 04:40 AM | Comments (3)

October 27, 2009

Obama's Health Care that Is NOT Healthy for Anyone!

"Like the old joke goes, President Obama isn't a doctor, but he plays one on TV -- giving Americans a discomforting glimpse of life under ObamaCare, with government leaders and bureaucrats dispensing medical opinions that are better left to doctors, medical professionals, and patients," said House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH).

From House Republican Leader John Boehner

THE TRUTH:

• “Maybe Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus should put a gag order on Douglas Elmendorf too. On Tuesday, the Congressional Budget Office director told Mr. Baucus’s committee that its plan to cut $123 billion from Medicare Advantage—the program that gives almost one-fourth of seniors private health-insurance options—will result in lower benefits and some 2.7 million people losing this coverage. … Seniors have a right to know how they may be affected by Washington’s health-care planning.” (Wall Street Journal editorial, 9/24/09)

• “Probable” That Seniors “Would Indeed Need To … Change Plans.” FactCheck.org found that under H.R. 3200, “it’s probable that some unknown number of the 22 percent of seniors, or more than 10 million individuals, who participate in Medicare Advantage programs would indeed need to pay more out of pocket, change plans or face reduced benefits…”

• “Democrats seek cuts in Medicare Advantage. … Democrats want to cut Medicare Advantage by more than $120 billion over 10 years. It could leave seniors with fewer boutique Medicare options offered through private insurance companies or with private plans that offer fewer of the extra benefits such plans provide. … The White House is scrambling to fight back.” (The Boston Globe, 9/24/09)

NOT HANDLING THE TRUTH:

• The Senate Finance Committee “rejected a Republican effort to keep the agency that administers Medicare from interfering with contractors that express their views about the healthcare bill to their elderly customers. … Democrats also defeated a Republican amendment to ensure the bill did not result in benefit reductions in the Medicare Advantage program.” (Reuters, 9/23/09)

• “Where is Pelosi when First Amendment needs her? … Bureaucrats in one of the federal government’s biggest departments have issued a gag order against what they deem to be unfair criticism of President Barack Obama’s health care reform proposals. Not only are these bureaucrats making a mockery of the First Amendment’s guarantee of freedom of speech, they are also denying information millions of elderly Americans have a right to receive.” (San Francisco Examiner editorial, 9/24/09)

• “Former Baucus Aide at Center of Flap Over Insurer’s Mailings on Health Reform. Jonathan Blum, the administration official at the center of a growing flap over alleged efforts to ‘muzzle’ insurance companies critical of Democratic health care reform efforts, is a former senior aide to Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) — who originally asked the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services to investigate the companies critical of his bill.” (Roll Call, 9/23/09)

• “Democrats have a Medicare problem… Not even the AARP, which has spent millions of dollars to promote healthcare reform, can put older Americans at ease.” (The Hill, 9/23/09)

Seniors uneasy over Medicare cuts in overhaul

Democrats are pushing for Medicare cuts on a scale not seen in years to underwrite health care for all. Many seniors now covered under the program don't like that one bit.

~snipet~

But Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said Republicans aren't going to drop the issue. "I think there's going to be a rebellion in this country when seniors find out," he said.

Democrats push for health benefits to start by 2010

Politico

Democrats are pushing Senate leaders and the White House to speed up key benefits in the health reform bill to 2010, eager to give the party something to show taxpayers for their $900 billion investment in an election year.

The most significant changes to the health care system wouldn’t kick in until 2013 — two election cycles away. With Republicans expected to make next year a referendum on health care reform, Democrats are quietly lobbying to push up the effective dates on popular programs, so they'll have something to run on in the congressional midterm elections.

“Democrats will be the party that passed health care reform, and Republicans will be the party that tries to repeal it,” said Jim Kessler, vice president for policy at the centrist Third Way.

Michelle Obama made a video to push for the nationalized health care this weekend.
The First Lady made sure to focus on the horrors facing women in the United States under the present private system.

Wild Thing's comment..........

THEY DON”T CARE that the MAJORITY of AMERICANS DO NOT WANT THIS. sorry about yelling. I’m just so tired of these jerks telling us what we can and can’t do. Unfortunately we are going to have this monstrosity jammed down our throats no matter the cost and no matter the dislike for it.

Regarding Michelle America hater. You knew they were going to turn HER loose before it was over... right?? It’s all about abortion, and that’s it. She can say whatever - but it all boils down to the same thing - hence her fearmongering to women. Prepare yourself for an ugly assault on your intelligence and integrity!

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:45 AM | Comments (6)

October 22, 2009

Congress Keeps Gold-Plated Health Care... For Themselves

Townhall

Personal doctors on call 24/7. Coverage that knows no caps. No exemptions for pre-existing conditions.

Those are the sorts of benefits members of Congress currently enjoy on the taxpayer’s dime, and the kinds of benefits Americans on a government-run public health care plan will never see if Obamacare passes.

“One thing is certain: Congress will exempt itself from whatever lousy health care system it forces on we little people,” said Michael Cannon, director of health policy studies at the Cato Institute. “Congress will get better insurance than you do because politicians always get a better deal under government-run health care.”

While it’s not news that Congressional health insurance plans are posh, CBS News recently uncovered the details of plans – right as the details of the Baucus health care bill are being hashed out.

Members of Congress can choose from five different plans, and have access to both the VIP Bethesda Naval Hospital and a reserved spot Ward 72 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, an elite division usually reserved for military members. Their everyday medical concerns can be taken care of at a doctors office located inside of Congress.

Their premiums are the same as those of insurance plans with half the benefits, and the plans last a lifetime; not until Medicare kicks in do ex-Members or loose their Congressional health benefits. Congress has repeatedly voted down any provision that would switch their insurance plans to the lower-grade public option if Obamacare goes through.

Helen Evans, the director of Nurses for Reform, a campaign for more consumer-led, sustainable healthcare systems in Britain, said that this sort of elite care for the bureaucracy – and low-brow care for the plebes – is the same thing that happens in the government-run British health care system.

“Independent academic research has shown that on average the professional and managerial types obtain 40% more resource per illness episode than lower down the social spectrum” in Britain, she said.

Evans is certain that the exact same thing would happen in the U.S. if Obamacare was installed.

“The National Health Service, is famous for being a highly politicised bureaucracy that whilst it legitimises itself on the basis of equality favours the powerful, articulate and well connected,” she said. Nurses for Reform is unsurprised that American politicians are pushing for government-run health care “while of course attempting to secretly perpetuate their own elitist system funded by ordinary taxpayers.”

At least one U.S. Congressman is speaking out.

"If we pass a law that says a public option will be made available, I think people like myself should get out of this plan and go into the public option," Sen. Lindsey Graham, (R-S.C.), told CBS.

Wild Thing's comment.......

I hate our government, I LOVE our country, but by God I hate our government. Our Founding Fathers did not want kings and queens ( including Barney Freaking Frank) and neither do I !!!!!!

I would love to know TO THE PENNY, how much money was spent to keep the KENNEDY ASSHOLE alive for 2 years. That would be a hell of a HEADLINE right about now.

The average person will hear “I'm sorry this plan does not pay for this treatment or medication given your (fill in the blank with any reason to deny treatment because of the cost factor).”

Posted by Wild Thing at 05:49 AM | Comments (6)

October 20, 2009

Obamacare May Be Unconstitutional

HERE IS THE LINK TO THE PDF File

Obamacare May Be Unconstitutional

newsmax

By: David A. Patten

Obama's healthcare proposals face serious legal problems and scholars expect at least some provisions will be ruled unconstitutional.

The legal vulnerability of Obamacare — assuming some version of healthcare reform is passed — stems from the unprecedented powers it grants the federal government.

Constitutional challenges could arise on several fronts: the government's power to regulate interstate commerce; privacy concerns related to doctor-patient interactions that have their origins in Roe v. Wade; constitutional restrictions on the federal government's authority to levy taxes; and the plan’s numerous clauses promoting racial preferences.

Andrew P. Napolitano, the former New Jersey Superior Court judge and senior judicial analyst at the Fox News Channel, calls Obamacare "unconstitutional at its core."

Hans Bader, senior counsel for special projects at the Competitive Enterprise Institute think tank, tells Newsmax it is probable that at least some provisions in the evolving legislation will eventually be nixed.

Bader adds courts could also invalidate the entire bill.

GOP Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, recently echoed Bader's concerns with NewsmaxTV, saying in an exclusive interview that reform marks "the first time in the 225-year history of our country" that the federal government has ordered its citizens to make a purchase — in this case, healthcare coverage under the individual mandate. Citizens who opt not to obtain coverage face tax penalties.

Grassley adds, "I don't think we've ever had this issue before of having to buy something. And a lot of constitutional lawyers are saying it is unconstitutional, or at least a violation of the 10th Amendment. Maybe states can do this — but can the federal government do it? I have my doubts."

Writing in a Wall Street Journal op-ed, Napolitano stated, "What we have here is raw abuse of power by the federal government for political purposes. The president and his colleagues want to reward their supporters with ‘free’ healthcare that the rest of us will end up paying for. The only restraint on their exercise of Commerce Clause power is whatever they can get away with. They aren't upholding the Constitution — they are evading it."

Among the problems legal scholars see in the current healthcare bills:

The Commerce Clause

The 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

This raises the question: What constitutional authority does the federal government have to require “the people” to buy healthcare insurance?

Ever since the Constitution was ratified, those seeking to expand the federal government’s role have cited Article I, Section 8 — the commerce clause.

Napolitano describes the interstate commerce clause as “the favorite hook on which Congress hangs its hat in order to justify the regulation of anything it wants to control.”

The clause states Congress shall have the power to “regulate commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.”

Proponents would argue that not having an individual mandate would cause disruptions in the flow of goods and services among the states.

Healthcare reform would have a massive impact on one-sixth of the nation’s economy. There is a strong precedent for regulation of the insurance industry, at least on the state level. But courts could view reform as essentially as an entitlement program, not primarily related to commerce, and therefore beyond the federal government’s constitutional mandate.

The irony, says Napolitano, is that many of the current market anomalies in the insurance sector stem from congressional legislation that exempts companies from the competitive pressures of interstate commerce.

“It has permitted all 50 states to erect the type of barriers that the commerce clause was written precisely to tear down. Insurers are barred from selling policies to people in another state,” Napolitano writes.

"That's right,” he adds. “Congress refuses to keep commerce regular when the commercial activity is the sale of insurance, but claims it can regulate the removal of a person's appendix because that constitutes interstate commerce.”

That blatant contradiction is one reason Congress is considering legislation to revoke the insurance industry’s anti-trust exemption.

A Taxing Situation

The only reason the federal government can tax your income is the 16th Amendment. Ratified on Feb. 3, 1913, it consists of perhaps the 30 most costly words ever written: “The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

Taxing people to make them purchase insurance is not addressed in the Constitution. So how can the government do it? Answer: By calling it an “excise tax.”

Ernest S. Christian, who served as deputy assistant secretary of the Treasury Department during the Ford administration, and Betty Jo Christian, an appellate lawyer who has argued commerce clause cases before the Supreme Court, recently addressed this problem for Investors.com.

“Sen. Baucus claims that the tax on the uninsured is an ‘indirect’ excise tax . . . But Sen. Baucus appears to be in error,” they write. “An excise tax is a tax on a ‘thing’ (such as a commodity or a license). That is why an excise tax is classified as ‘indirect.’"

“People who choose not to buy insurance are not things.

“They are people. And the tax is imposed directly on them in exactly the same way as a direct income tax, except that in this instance, the tax amount does not depend on the size of the person's income.

They add: "Let us all hope that that the court stands fast — because if Barack Obama can make us buy a designated insurance policy, why can't he make us see designated doctors, submit to designated treatments, send our children to designated schools, force us to live in designated neighborhoods, give our money to designated charities (such as Acorn), and do all kinds of other designated things?" Excise taxes are levied on things you buy. The healthcare “excise tax” takes away your money for something you don’t buy — health insurance.

Roe v. Wade to the Rescue?!

It would be a remarkable irony if the Roe v. Wade abortion decision handed conservatives a means of stopping healthcare reform. Roe v. Wade established a private right to medical treatment that could seriously restrict the government’s ability to control the provision of healthcare services, either now or in the future.

David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey worked in the Justice Department under former presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. They addressed this point in a recent Wall Street Journal article.

“If the government cannot proscribe — or even ‘unduly burden,’ to use another of the Supreme Court's analytical frameworks — access to abortion, how can it proscribe access to other medical procedures, including transplants, corrective or restorative surgeries, chemotherapy treatments, or a myriad of other health services that individuals may need or desire?” they ask.

Bader says the Roe v. Wade argument would probably carry less weight than those tied to the commerce clause. “But you can argue if you've got this right to abortion, which they made up out of nothing in Roe v. Wade — why the heck is it that the doctor has this prerogative to give an abortion, but he doesn't have a prerogative to practice medicine without all these restrictions?” Bader says.

Current reform proposals generally seek to avoid the appearance of intruding on the doctor-client relationship. But Bader warns “they set a precedent.”

Racial Preferences: Not so Colorblind

Bader says all of the current proposals have “a lot of racial preferences.”

These preferences include requirements for the culturally conscious provision of medical services, and racial set asides and goals intended to give minority healthcare providers more opportunities.

"Some of the racial preferences in the Obama healthcare plan are unconstitutional, and will be declared so by the federal courts,” Bader predicts.

“Now, that doesn't mean all of the Obama healthcare plan will be struck down on that basis,” he hastens to add. “But it does illustrate there are well-founded constitutional objections to Obama's healthcare plans.”

Of course, Democrats could “bulletproof” their proposals in the weeks ahead, making them less vulnerable to reversal by the courts. For example, they could get the states to impose the requirements by making it a condition of federal funding.

Still, legislation as pervasive as healthcare reform is almost certain to trigger a spate of legal challenges in the years to come.

“The only thing that is certain today,” Rivkin and Casey write, “is that the courts, and not Congress, will have the last word.”

Wild Thing's comment........

Obamacare May be Unconstitutional

Only to people who read, understand and obey the Constitution. And that list obviously doesn't include the President, the House of Representatives, the Senate, most of the Supreme Court, and most judges on the Federal Courts.

I don't think the Constitution matters much in DC anymore. The only thing DC wants is enslavement of the entire population. The poor are already a commodity... the middle class are nearly captured... the rich must be constrained and locked down.

Enslavement for the good of the the world; enslavement for the good of mankind.

They are going to do whatever they please. If only we could think of a way to get back at them before the election, which is a year away.

I cant believe they are gonna shove this down our throats. Where is a good bolt of lightning to strike that place with them all in it?

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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October 13, 2009

Senate Committee Approves Health Overhaul Bill ( Socialized Medicine )

The vote was 14-9, with Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine the only Republican to join the 13 Democrats on the panel. Ms. Snowe indicated earlier in the day that she would support the measure.

The Senate Finance panel, led by Chairman Max Baucus, becomes the last of five congressional panels to act on a health-overhaul bill, and it marks the biggest step forward yet for President Barack Obama's top domestic priority. The Baucus-proposed 10-year, $829 billion plan would require all Americans to purchase insurance and aims to hold down spiraling medical costs over the long term.

Senate committee approves health overhaul bill

Barack Obama's plan to remake the nation's health care system is about to take its biggest step yet toward becoming reality.

A pivotal Senate committee has approved a sweeping remake of the country's health care system, delivering a long-sought boost to President Barack Obama's goal of expanding coverage.

The 14-9 vote in the Senate Finance Committee sets up a historic debate on the Senate floor and moves health care overhaul closer to reality than it has been for decades.

Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine was the only Republican to join 13 committee Democrats in voting "yes."

The 10-year, $829-billion plan approved Tuesday is aimed at extending coverage to millions more Americans, holding down costs and improving health care for all.

The Finance Committee was the last of five congressional committees to act. It produced a centrist-leaning compromise bill.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON

Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe broke with her party Tuesday and said she will vote for a Democratic health care bill, handing President Barack Obama a much-sought boost in his quest to expand access to medical coverage to all Americans.

Approval of the legislation by the Senate Finance Committee was a foregone conclusion going into Tuesday's vote, since Democrats outnumber Republicans 13-10 on the panel. But Snowe's decision gave the vote a significance that transcends partisan divisions. For months, congressional Republicans have been virtually unanimous in denouncing the Democratic bills as an unwarranted expansion of government influence.

The Maine senator kept virtually all of Washington guessing about how she would vote until she announced it late in the Senate Finance Committee debate Tuesday. She told her colleagues she has misgivings about the bill, but "when history calls, history calls."

Democrats, aware that Snowe could be the only Republican in Congress to vote for their health care overhaul, have spent months addressing her concerns about making health care affordable and how to pay for it.

"Ours is a balanced plan that can pass the Senate," declared Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. Health care legislation is expected to be on the Senate floor the week after next, said a spokesman for Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who must combine the Finance version with a more liberal proposal from the health committee.

The expected approval by Baucus' committee would push a remake of the U.S. health care system closer to reality than it has been in decades. Four other congressional committees finished their work before August and for months all eyes have been on the Finance panel, the one whose moderate makeup most closely resembles the Senate as a whole.

The committee's centrist legislation is also seen as the best building block for a compromise plan that could find favor on the Senate floor. But nearly unanimous opposition from Republicans means a tough battle lies ahead.

Baucus' 10-year, $829-billion plan would, for the first time, require most Americans to purchase insurance and it also aims to hold down spiraling medical costs over the long term. Questions persist about whether it would truly provide access to affordable coverage, particularly for self employed people with solid middle class incomes.

Much work would lie ahead before a bill could arrive on Obama's desk, but action by the Finance Committee would mark a significant advance, capping numerous delays as Baucus held marathon negotiating sessions — ultimately unsuccessful — aimed at producing a bipartisan bill.

The Finance Committee's top Republican, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, gave voice to the GOP's concerns about the bill, saying it was "moving on a slippery slope to more and more government control of health care."

"There's a lot in this bill that's just a consensus that needs to be done, but there are other provisions of this bill that raise a lot of questions," Grassley said, contending the legislation would mean higher costs for Americans.

One of the biggest unanswered questions is whether the legislation would slow punishing increases in the nation's health care costs, particularly for the majority who now have coverage through employers. The insurance industry insists it would shift new costs onto those who have coverage.

Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf, under questioning by Republican senators, acknowledged that the bill's total impact on the nation's health care costs is still unknown. The CBO has been able to establish that the legislation would reduce federal government deficits, but Elmendorf said his staff has not had time to evaluate its effects on privately insured people. Government programs pay about half the nation's annual $2.5 trillion health care tab.

Once the Finance Committee has acted, the dealmaking can begin in earnest with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., working with White House staff, Baucus and others to blend the Finance bill with a more liberal version passed by the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

Baucus' bill includes consumer protections such as limits on copays and deductibles and relies on federal subsidies to help lower-income families purchase coverage. Insurance companies would have to take all comers, and people could shop for insurance within new state marketplaces called exchanges.

Medicaid would be expanded, and though employers wouldn't be required to cover their workers, they'd have to pay a penalty for each employee who sought insurance with government subsidies. The bill is paid for by cuts to Medicare providers and new taxes on insurance companies and others.

Unlike the other health care bills in Congress, Baucus' would not allow the government to sell insurance in competition with private companies, a divisive element sought by liberals.

Last-minute changes made subsidies more generous and softened the penalties for those who don't comply with a proposed new mandate for everyone to buy insurance. The latter change drew the ire of the health insurance industry, which said that without a strong and enforceable requirement, not enough people would get insured and premiums would jump for everyone else.

A major question mark for Reid's negotiations is whether he will include some version of a so-called public plan in the merged bill. Across the Capitol, House Democratic leaders are working to finalize their bill, which does contain a public plan, and floor action is expected in both chambers in coming weeks. If passed, the legislation would then go to a conference committee to reconcile differences.

Hatch Ramming This Through & Too Little Time Pointing out inconsistencies in ObamaDON’TCare bill...not that it matters to the partisan Demmies being pressure/blackmailed by this government, feh!

WASHINGTON, D.C. – House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) issued the following statement after Senate Finance Committee Democrats approved legislation that will increase health care premiums, raise taxes, cut seniors’ Medicare benefits, destroy jobs, and jeopardize the health coverage Americans have today:

“The American people want reform, not a trillion-dollar experiment that increases taxes on families and small businesses, cuts Medicare benefits for seniors, and jeopardizes the health coverage that millions have today. This bill specifically violates President Obama’s promise not to increase taxes for Americans who earn less than $250,000. That is another reason middle-class families and small businesses asking ‘where are the jobs?’ during this economic recession oppose this bill.

“Americans want lower health care costs and greater access to quality health insurance, but that’s not what this bill does. It puts us on the path to government-run health care and will lead to higher premiums, higher taxes, fewer jobs, and fewer benefits for seniors at a price tag our nation cannot afford. That’s exactly what the American people don’t want.

“Republicans have offered common-sense solutions to lower health care costs and increase access to affordable insurance – all without destroying jobs, exploding the deficit, or putting bureaucrats in charge of medical decisions that should be made by doctors and patients. It’s time for Democrats to scrap all of these big government-run plans and work with Republicans to make health care more affordable and accessible for all Americans.”

Wild Thing's comment......

“On to fascism, folks” El Rushbo said in closing his show, today.

So, if it was 14-9 why was her vote even needed?

Looks like 13-10 was enough to pass the committee.

This woman is such a turncoat. She should be drummed out of the party. Go ahead Olympia, become a democRAT....you’re a RAT already. Snowe said she didn’t support the bill but voted for it to get the discussion going....how nuts.

ONE republican vote is all the media needs to run with “Bipartisan” and that is all you will hear. She is a vile Traitor!

This monstrosity is going to get crammed down our throats. The whole legislative process is just some sort of farcical aquatic ceremony, ignoring that supreme political power derives from a mandate of the people. Or something like that.

I digress. It’s clear that the Washington political elite and the Byzantine interests that bribe them no longer care about America or it’s people.

We’re SO SCREWED! Lett me think a minute here. OK..... This will cause a 2010 election backlash like we've never seen. That is the silver lining in this very dark cloud.

It could so be reversed ( mayeb!)???) , re-privatized, so to speak, and we will have voted in the people who will have the numbers to do it. This is a huge political mistake for the Democrats, as the reaction in the polls will soon show. Heck I don't know anymore. AUGH!

This is far from over. This piece of crap in the Senate may collapse on its own weight. It is hated by both the left and the right. The RATS have numeric authority to govern in both chambers, but they have no mandate and no consensus on how to govern.

The Constitution was designed to maximize and defend individual freedom for the people and to place strict limitations on the powers of government. Nowhere in the Constitution will you find the enumerated power authorizing the central government to "provide" insurance of any kind for the people. Likewise, you will find no enumerated power to mandate or force the people to purchase an insurance contract or to face fines, taxes or penalties for not doing so.

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October 08, 2009

Obama Voters USE Their Kids See Them Sing for HusseinCare (my title) on CNN Set

Note the prelude here where 'Willie' lays out a devastating case against ObamaCare that leaves the CNN infobabe flummoxed and nearly speechless, as if she can't believe what appears to be a 10-year-old has a superior grasp of the debate than she or any of the other empty heads at CNN.

It's right at the beginning so you need not suffer through the painful song and dance routine.

Kids from the Ron Clark Academy are on CNN singing for health care reform set to Miley Cyrus' "Party in the USA." The song mentions "Obama says everyone needs health care now."

"Obama says everyone needs health coverage in America now.
We need to insure those 47 million but the government doesn't know how.
I got my bill and think, no way.
And, what about my brother?
He's hurting and can't get covered."

Wild Thing's comment........

Disgusting indoctrination and it is being done by parents and teachers on the left. This is so getting out of hand, LEAVE CHILDREN ALONE! This is totally off the deep end. I wonder how many hours they spent rehearsing that crap. I also wonder how many of them could do 4th grade arithmetic or basic sentence structure.

I didn’t hear the verse about:

Get off yo butt and get a job, so you’ll
have healthcare, yeah, yeah.

I get a magazine called " Military" it is an awesome publication. And there is a section in the magazine called Watch Center. This quote is in there this month.

"Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism." - Vladimir Lenin

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:48 AM | Comments (6)

Shouts, Insults Fly at Rep. Israel's Health Care Town Hall

Here is video of a raucous Town Hall Meeting at Suffolk County Community College in Brentwood, New York, where Democrat Congressman Steve Israel faced a skeptical crowd as he tried to make the case for the Democrats' Health Care Plan.

Israel was asked a simple question: "Why can't we just fix the part of health care that is broken, when what is needed is tort reform?"

The crowd went wild at the question! Rep. Israel then condescendingly tried to lecture the crowd about why tort reform is not a good thing! The crowd remained raucous throughout his attempted answer.

Shouts, insults fly at Rep. Israel's health care town hall

Townhall

Israel (D-Huntington) at one point pleaded with those in the crowd yelling at him to "stop calling me a liar and listen." Judging by the ever-increasing decibel level, he did not win over many converts.

Shouts of -- "Stop printing money," "We don't care what you think," and "You're a moron" -- permeated the 90-minute session, which drew far more than the 450 people who filled Van Nostrand Theatre. Scores more were not allowed inside after a Suffolk fire marshal closed the doors.

People opposing the proposed health care reform outnumbered those in favor, though both sides strove to outshout each other during the question-and-answer period.

A typical scene came after Anneliese Lanza of Huntington asked, "Why can't we just fix the part of health care that is broken when what is needed is tort reform?" The anti-reform portion of the crowd broke into a raucous standing ovation chanting "tort reform."

"You're saying tort reform now, but if something happens to you, you'll be the first one to want to take the case to a judge and jury," Israel said. "I don't believe a member of the United States Congress should decide when you can go to court."

Israel, who supports the public option, which would allow people to purchase insurance through a government program, said he does not expect to support every aspect of the final reform bill.

"I'm not going to draw any lines in the sand," he said. "I'm not going to vote against 60 percent of what I want because I can't get 40 percent of what I want. There is no perfection." . . . ....

Wild Thing's comment.......

What amazes me is that no one in government gives a d-— about what their voters are saying, the arrogant attitudes make me furious!

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:47 AM | Comments (5)

Mark Levin on GOP Health Care Plan

Here is audio of Mark Levin yesterday laying out the GOP Health Care alternative in less than two minutes. He was responding to a caller who questioned what the Republicans' Health Care Plan alternative is, as if the GOP had no alternative.

Wild Thing's comment.............

Mark Levin is great, thank you.

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October 07, 2009

The Day ObamaCare Died

Obama sings about the day his plan for National Health Care died. "The Day ObamaCare Died"
was written by Paul Shanklin and performed on the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show. Paul Shanklin web-site is at www.paulshanklin.com

Lyrics: The Day OBAMA CARE Died

A long, long time ago
I can still remember
How, the protests used to make me smile
Cause I knew we could ram it thru
Before they ever had a clue
Then maybe they’d shut-up for a while
But the protests grew and made me shiver
Pelosi and Reid could not deliver
Now our push for health care has to wait
Til September [Spoken: or October or next year]
I cant remember if I cried
When I heard the right had organized

But something told me deep inside
That day National Health Care died.
So Id lied, lied at every townhall in sight
Drove my Chevy cross the country tryin to put up a fight
Them good ol boys were standing right there outside
Sayin this will be the day that it dies
This will be the day Obama Care dies
We were gonna run it all on our own
But Congressmen and Senators were gettin stoned back home
Thats not how it was supposed to be

We used to be treated like a king and queen
And the sweater she borrowed from LL Bean
And my voice could part the stormy, stormy seas
But now everytime I hit the stage
Bitter crowds appear in fits of rage
Somewhere down in hell
Is where my members fell
I was blown away by Bob and Buck
And the redneck neighbors with their pickup truck
But I knew I was out of luck
The day that health care died

Even though I lied, lied at every townhall in sight
Drove my chevy cross the country tryin to put up a fight
Them good ol boys were standing right there outside
Sayin this will be the day that it dies
This will be the day Obama Care dies
Even though I lied, lied at every townhall in sight
Drove my chevy cross the country tryin to put up a fight
The good ol boys were standing right there outside
Sayin this will be the day that it dies

This will be the day Obama Care dies

Wild Thing's comment........

Shanklin is a genius!

..... Thank you Stepberg for sending this to me.

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October 06, 2009

The 'Kill Granny' Bill

The 'Kill Granny' Bill: Senate bid to sock elder-care

The New York Post

by Betsy McCaughey

McCaughey is chairman of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths and a former New York lieutenant-governor.

As the health-reform bills move through Congress, the prognosis for Medicare pa tients gets worse and worse.

The Senate Finance Committee bill (generally called the Baucus bill, after Chairman Max Baucus) robs the elderly to cover the uninsured -- like snatching purses from little old ladies. The House bills already cut future funding for Medicare by $500 billion over the next decade. The Baucus bill would slash a similar amount, just when 30 percent more people enter the program as baby boomers turn 65.

The Baucus bill also puts new limits on what doctors can do for patients in Medicare:

* A "race to the bottom" provision (p. 102 of the revised chairman's mark) would take effect each year for the next five years. The provision penalizes doctors who end up in the 90th percentile or above on the cost of what they use to treat their patients, compared with national averages. The intent is to force down the cost of care, year by year. Yet this blunt instrument can't determine which care is actually wasteful -- it will punish doctors for treating high cost patients with complex conditions. Inevitably, it will lower the quality of care.

* Even more devastating is the amendment Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) got inserted into the bill (revised chairman's mark, pp. 102-3). It gives the Secretary of Health and Human Services the power to define quality, cost-effective care for each medical condition and penalize doctors who spend more on their patients.

The law establishing Medicare in 1965 barred the federal government from interfering in doctors' treatment decisions. Slowly, Medicare regulations have begun unraveling that protection. Now the Cantwell amendment finishes the job.

This is the most extreme change to Medicare ever. Dr. David McKalip, a Florida neurosurgeon and a board member of the Florida Medical Association, predicts: "The only doctors left in Medicare will be those willing to ration care and practice cookbook medicine."

It's reasonable for Medicare administrators to strive to get value for dollars spent. In recent years, Medicare has taken a slow, tight-fisted (and sometimes arbitrary) approach to paying for new drugs or medical devices. But Cantwell aims directly at doctors' decisions.

That's not surprising. President Obama and his advisers vilify doctors for over-treating patients. Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and a key Obama health-care adviser, argues that the Hippocratic Oath is largely to blame for the "overuse" of medical care.

In his view, doctors focus too much on the needs of their own patients; they should be taught to ask whether the money they're spending on a patient is worth it. To curb doctors' spending, the stimulus legislation launched a process of sending doctors protocols via computer on what the government deems "appropriate" and "cost-effective" care. Doctors who are not "meaningful users" will be punished financially.

When I warned that this meant the government would be interfering in doctors' treatment decisions, CNN and FactCheck.org said that was untrue. But Dr. David Blumenthal, appointed in March to head the new system of computer-guided medicine, settled that debate. In the New England Journal of Medicine (April 9), he confirmed that "embedded clinical-decision support" (his term for computers telling doctors what to do) would be used to reduce costs, and he predicted that some doctors might rebel against tight controls.

The Baucus bill completes the framework for tying doctors' hands when treating the elderly.

Driving all this is the misconception that doctors spend wastefully on patients who are about to die. Newsweek's recent cover story, "The Case for Killing Granny," argues that "the need to spend less money on the elderly at the end of life is the elephant in the room in the health-reform debate."

Numerous studies prove that is false. In 2006, Emory University researchers examining the records of patients in the year before they died found that doctors spend far less on patients who are expected to die than on patients expected to survive.

The Emory researchers said it's untrue that "lifesaving measures for patients visibly near death account for a disproportionate share of spending." They also found that doctors often can't predict when a patient is in the last year of life.

In any case, the health-reformers' plan to cut spending on patients 65 and older won't simply reduce end-of-life care, it will also eliminate care for patients who are perfectly capable of surviving their illness and going on with life.

Wild Thing's comment..........

The truth is the democrats want to see the elderly die off as quickly as possible, instead of receiving medical treatment. This is how they will save money.

There is a whale of a difference between “do not resuscitate” and giving a patient suicide pills.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:40 AM | Comments (5)

October 02, 2009

Obama's Health Insurance Whopper! More LIES from the DICTATOR

Obama's Health Insurance Whopper: He's misleading the country on a key reform proposal

NY Daily News

"As soon as I sign this bill," President Obama promised in his prime-time address to Congress, "it will be against the law for insurance companies to drop your coverage when you get sick." Thunderous applause followed. It's easy to understand why - no one wants to lose their insurance coverage when they need it most.

But here's a news flash: It's already illegal for insurance companies to drop patients once they become ill. It has been for over a decade. The American people should take note, as President Obama is using this non-existent crisis to justify massive federal intervention in America's health sector.

Since 1997, federal regulations have prohibited insurance companies from raising a person's rates if he develops an illness. And no matter how sick a customer gets, an insurer can't drop him or refuse to renew his policy - provided he didn't lie on his application or move out of the state where his policy was issued.

Perhaps the President thinks this law isn't being enforced. He has repeatedly claimed that "no one holds these companies accountable for these practices." But that's not true. State insurance commissioners are charged with enforcing good-faith execution of insurance contracts. In fact, that's exactly what Obama's current Health Secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, did for eight years as Kansas state insurance commissioner. Occasionally, insurers identify customers whom they believe have lied about their health status on their applications and rescind their coverage. Rescission is an infrequently used but important tool for rooting out fraud. Health insurers rely on applicants submitting correct information so that their actuaries can estimate what risk they will add to the pool of people covered by the insurer.

Insurers must be confident that applicants are being truthful about their health. Otherwise, the health insurer will attract only applicants who wait until they become sick to buy health insurance, which could leave it bankrupt. The alternative to recission, investigating an applicant's complete medical history, would be extremely time-consuming and expensive. It would also make insurance less affordable and less available. And despite the scare stories we've been hearing, rescissions rarely occur. WellPoint, one of the country's largest insurers, enrolled approximately 873,000 new customers in 2008. Less than 0.15% of those customers had their policies rescinded. Just 0.5% of those covered by Assurant, another health insurer, experienced rescission. The figure is similar for Blue Cross of California.

When insurers have wrongfully rescinded policies, state insurance commissioners have been ruthless about protecting consumers' rights. Last September, for instance, the California Department of Insurance ordered Health Net Inc. to reinstate 926 policies that had been incorrectly rescinded. The company also paid $3.6 million in fines and another $14 million in medical claims. In July 2008, Anthem Blue Cross agreed to pay $11 million in hospital claims derived from rescinded policies in California. Americans know that health reform is needed. Insurance coverage and medical services get more expensive every year. And the rising costs make patients feel powerless.

But these problems stem from the illogical structure of our health system, not the actions of supposedly heartless insurers. Because third parties - like insurance companies or the government - pay for just about everything, Americans have no idea how much doctor visits or medical procedures cost.

Returning health-care dollars to individual patients would spur competition and bring down costs. But President Obama has no interest in this style of reform. He's interested in putting the government in charge.

And so, with health-care dollars flowing through either insurers or the government, the President only has two potential villains. He obviously can't malign the government as he attempts to put it in charge of American health care. So that leaves insurance companies as the target for his ire.

If Americans buy into Obama's crisis-mongering and the myths on which it is based, they may be forced to accept more government interference in their health decisions and a precipitous decline in the level of choice, competition and quality of care available to them.

Wild Thing's comment........

Obama has been is talking about classifying a illness as a pre-existing condition, only some states outlaw that. It’s a complicated issue, not one for the feds to screw with lightly.

What a total LIAR he is. The ENTIRE BILL is a lie our for NOTHING but power.

I am sending this to politicans today. Even if they already know about it I want them to know we know about it.

Posted by Wild Thing at 05:49 AM | Comments (2)

October 01, 2009

Government-Run Health Care by Next Thursday?

The Heritage Foundation

The Washington Post front page blares today: “Prospects for Public Option Dim in Senate.” Don’t believe it. Yes, the Senate Finance Committee did vote down two amendments that each would have added a government-run insurance plan to the committee’s health care bill. But two key Democrats who voted against Sen. Jay Rockefeller’s (D-WV) public plan, Bill Nelson (D-FL) and Tom Carper (D-DE), voted for Sen. Chuck Schumer’s (D-NY) version.

According to an independent analysis of Senate Democrat public statements on the public option, that raises the number of Democrats on record supporting a public option from 47 to 49. Moreover, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA), chairmen of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee, told the liberal “Bill Press Radio Show” yesterday that Democrats “comfortably” have the remaining votes to reach 51 and pass a public plan once the debate moves to the House floor.

But what about Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus’ (D-MT) claim yesterday that, “No one has been able to show me how we can count up to 60 votes with a public option.” That may be true, but it is also irrelevant. The question is not whether Democrats can muster 60 votes to pass Obamacare; they only need 51 votes to do that. The only time the number 60 will be relevant is when the Senate votes on whether to end debate and vote on the final bill. This is a separate question. We can see Senators from red states like Ben Nelson (D-NE), Blanch Lincoln (D-AR), and Kent Conrad (D-ND) voting against an amendment creating a public option. But voting with Republicans against their party and against their President to support a Republican filibuster? That would take a lot of courage. It would guarantee that these Democrats would face fierce opposition from their leftist bases back home. Just ask the left’s new whip for the public option, Michael Moore. Speaking to women’s groups and unions in Washington, DC, yesterday, Moore warned:

"To the Democrats in Congress who don’t quite get it: I want to offer a personal pledge. I – and a lot of other people – have every intention of removing you from Congress in the next election if you stand in the way of health care legislation that the people want. That is not a hollow or idle threat. We will come to your district and we will work against you, first in the primary and, if we have to, in the general election."

Moore is, of course, the perfect spokesman for the public option. He is in Washington promoting his new film “Capitalism: A Love Story” in which Moore argues that “Capitalism is an evil, and you can’t regulate evil.” A more succinct summation of theory behind the public option does not exist. While supporters of the plan, including the White House, insist that the purpose of the public option is to bring “choice and competition” to the health care, nothing could be further from the truth. As Reps. Barney Frank (D-MA), Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Anthony Weiner (D-NY) Washington Post blogger Ezra Klein, and Noble Prize winning New York Times columnist Paul Krugman have all candidly admitted, the public option is nothing more than a Trojan horse for a single-payer, government-run health care system. Moore even told Rolling Stone magazine this summer:

"If a true public option is enacted — and Obama knows this — it will eventually bring about a single payer system, because the profit-making insurance companies won’t be able to compete with a government run plan and make the profits they want to make."

So just how close are we to being inflicted with the Obama/Moore dream of anti-capitalist, competition-free, government-run health care? Closer than many realize. Multiple sources on the Hill have told The Foundry that as early as next week, the Senate could be debating Obamacare. Senate Majority Leader Reid has stated an intention to take the HELP Committee product and merge it with the Senate Finance Committee markup that is expected to be over by this Thursday or Friday. Their plan is to proceed to a House passed non-health care bill to provide a shell of legislation to give Obamacare a ride to the House and then straight to the President’s desk.

Congress’s Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare

Human Events

Obama and liberals in Congress seem intent on passing comprehensive health care reform, even though polls suggest it is unpopular with the American people. And despite the potential political risks to moderate Democrats, the President and left-wing leadership in Congress are determined to pass the measure using a rare parliamentary procedure.

The Senate plans to attach Obamacare to a House-passed non-healthcare bill. Ironically, nobody knows what that legislation looks like, because it has not yet been written. Yet many members plan to rubber-stamp Obamacare without reading or understanding the bill.

The Senate Finance Committee worked furiously last week to mark up a “conceptual framework” of health care reform. The committee actually rejected an amendment by Sen. Jim Bunning (R.-Ky.) to mandate that the bill text and a final cost analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) be publicly available at least 72 hours before the Finance Committee votes on final passage.

The following four-step scenario describes one way liberals plan to work the rules in their favor to get Obamacare through the Senate:

Step 1: The Senate Finance Committee must first approve the marked-up version of Sen. Max Baucus’ (D.-Mont.) conceptual framework. Then Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D.-Nev.) can say that two Senate Committees have passed a health care bill, which will allow him to take extraordinary steps to get the bill on the Senate floor.

Step 2: Sen. Reid will take the final product of the Senate Finance Committee and merge it with the product of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee, which passed on a party-line vote in July.

Step 3: Now, Obamacare will be ready to hitch a ride on an unrelated bill from the House. Sen. Reid will move to proceed to H.R. 1586, a bill to impose a tax on bonuses received by certain TARP recipients.

The move to proceed needs 60 votes to start debate. After the motion is approved, Sen. Reid will offer Obamacare as a complete substitute to the unrelated House-passed bill. This means that the entire healthcare reform effort will be included as an amendment to a TARP bill that has been collecting dust in the Senate for months.

Step 4: For this strategy to work, the proponents would need to hold together the liberal caucus of 58 Democrats (including Paul Kirk who was named last Thursday to replace Sen. Kennedy), and the two Independent senators (Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont). These members will have to all hold hands and vote against any filibuster. Once the Senate takes up the bill, only a simple majority of members will be needed for passage.

Once the Senate passes a bill and sends it to the House, all the House would have to do is pass the bill without changes and President Obama will be presented with his health care reform measure.

Wild Thing's comment..........

With such massive opposition to this, if they do this, it will be their undoing. They are so arrogant that they are thumbing their nose at Americans and our Constitution.

This is war, and I mean it. What the hell do they think our brothers, sisters; sons and daughters; mothers and fathers have fought for and died for since the start of this great nation.

We Know!!!! FREEDOM!!!!!

And no sorry excuse of a human in Washington is ever going to take that Blood earned Right from me or my family or any of us, without a fight they have never seen before.

God help them, but please God be with those who carry you and the love of your Country strong in their hearts most.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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Democrats and Their Plan to Ram Obamacare Through ~ Rush Limbaugh

credit for Graphic....... from Rush Limbaugh website

The Democrats' "Secret" Plan to Pass the Public Option by Next Thursday

Transcript from Rush Limbaugh show yesterday.....Wednesday Sept. 30th, 2009

Let me see if I can synthesize this and make the complex understandable.

They want to get a health care bill to Obama next week. They don't want to have to go through the 60-vote requirement and they really don't want to go through reconciliation because there's been enough education now that people know reconciliation is only used for budget items, the rules prevent it for anything else. But they want to get this health care bill through because they're losing on the issue with the American people, they don't want any more debate about it. So they've got two bills in the Senate.

They got Harkin's bill, they got Baucus' bill, two different committees. Harry Reid is going to take the parts of both of these bills that he likes and merge them, come up with one bill and take it to the Senate floor. Now, after they've got their health care bill to the Senate floor, as you know the House has to do something on this as well. The House health care bill hasn't passed. But there is a bill in the House that's been collecting dust over there that has passed, it's sitting around. The Senate hasn't taken any action on that bill. That is a bill that imposes a tax on bonuses received by certain TARP recipients. That was passed by the House in the wake of the AIG bonus controversy.

So you have the House bill, and that's what Harry Reid wants to attach the merged Senate bill to. You say, "Well, how do they get them health care?" Stand by. That's the complex being made understandable here right before your very eyes and ears. Now, this move to proceed at this point does require 60 votes to start the debate. After the motion is approved, Senator Reid will offer Obamacare as a complete substitute to the unrelated House passed bill, with the cooperation of Pelosi. The House is not being left out of this. This is all part of the stratagem.

What this means is that the entire health care reform effort will be included as an amendment to the TARP bill that has been collecting dust in the Senate for months because the House passed it long ago, the Senate hasn't taken any action on it so Reid is going to merge these two health care bills, attach it to the TARP bill basically as an amendment and then have the TARP bill passed, the bonus bill passed in the Senate. Now, for this strategy to work, it's not smooth sailing. It's not like a hot knife through butter. The proponents here would need to hold together the liberal caucus of 58 Democrats, including Paul Kirk, who was named to replace Senator Kennedy, and Lieberman and Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

These members will all have to hold hands and vote against any filibuster. And that still remains the big obstacle for them. Once the Senate takes up the bill, after they've got the 60 votes to start debate, it doesn't take 60 more votes to pass it. Once debate has started, once they got the 60 votes to get going, after that all they need is 51 votes to pass it. And it's possible that one of the endangered moderate Democrats like Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas could vote to stop a filibuster, then vote against Obamacare so as not to offend any angry constituents.

So that's going to be a big thing to watch. And by that very little of this is going to be happening publicly. A lot of this is behind the scenes. You're going to wake up one day, if all this goes as Reid and Pelosi and Obama have it planned, you're going to wake up one day and find out that they've all voted on single payer health care with a public option in it. And you'll say, "Wait a minute, what happened to the House bill?" The House bill is the TARP bill. And the Senate health care bill becomes an amendment to it. Then you go to conference, everybody accepts it, signs off on it.

Once the Senate passes their bill, with their version of the bonus bill, sends it to the House, all the House would have to do is pass it without any changes. And Obama will then present it with his health care reform measure. If this doesn't work, then they're going to have to go back to reconciliation to pass the legislation. So they've still got some things in their way. It's not smooth sailing, but this is the plan. And, of course, one of the things that we say here, all we have to do in the House is just have them pass the bill without any changes, that's going to be tough because the House has its own renegades over there, and it's got, you know, Congressional Black Caucus and all these disparate groups who might not like everything in the Senate bill, the Senate bill might not have enough in it to satisfy them.

So it's not smooth sailing. But what the point here is to give you a sense of the anti-American public sentiment that is fueling the passage of this bill. They know, Harry Reid and Pelosi both know that if they conduct the debate and produce the legislation in the standard way, that they won't have a bill by Christmas, they won't have a bill by next year, if they do it in normal circumstances.

But if they play rule games and parliamentary rule games and actually have the health care bill sent to Obama be a bill that taxes bonuses paid to TARP recipients that has an amendment, health care reform, they think that this is a way to get it done surreptitiously without a whole lot of people knowing what is going on. And if they do it this way you are now informed and advised and you will have a big say-so in stopping this. But the point here, folks, the small-R representative republic here, nothing to do with the Republican Party, it's out the window. These leftists, these Democrats don't give a rat's rear end about the democratic process or what you want.

This is all about the advancement of their agenda. And don't be fooled. Don't be fooled. They're going to try to ram something through by any means possible.

They're going to conceal the true nature of it. If they get away with this, they're going to tell you that they're finally taking action on taxing the bonuses of these rich elitist Wall Street types, and they think that the class envy that they've created will have universal acceptance on the part of the American people, "Oh, yeah, tax those AIG bonuses, tax everybody else's bonuses." That's what they're going to do. It's going to be a feint and a misleading thing.

This is how Harry Reid's going to drive the whole legislation back to the House, and this is essentially what reconciliation is all about. In one move -- and they're targeting next week to get this done -- in one move the US Congress will take over hospitals, will take over laboratories, will take over the medical profession, will take over the insurance companies. What they are planning, let me point it out to you in an even more understandable fashion.

What they are plotting and hope to pull off by next week will make the takeovers of General Motors and Chrysler look like a joke. And once they've taken over the hospitals, the labs, the medical profession, the insurance companies, guess who's gonna get patronage jobs in all these industries? The union people, particularly the SEIU union people. The Harry Reid, Pelosi, Obama plan comes down to this: The Democrats are scheming against the American people, as they have been all along. The Obama administration, starting with the campaign, was a scheme against the American people and against the traditions and institutions that have defined this country's greatness.

I know I say that like a broken record. But it takes repetition. The Obama administration is a scheme. The Obama campaign was a scheme.

There's not going to be any tort reform in this, just window dressing. And the purpose will be to siphon money from taxpayers and doctors and hospitals to the trial lawyers, who in turn will load up Democrat coffers with contributions. And during every election cycle, the Democrats using the power of government will reward those who support them and deny those who don't support them with any benefits. In the end, this is going to drive the nation into poverty, it is going to drive the nation into disunity, but by the time that happens -- this is not going to happen overnight -- by the time that happens the current crop of leftists and radicals engineering all this will be gone.

They don't care about the nation's future and your children. They care about them now and changing and remaking this country in their image and getting it done in such a way that rolling it back will be difficult, if impossible to do.

Folks, it's this simple. Take it or leave it. Marxism, socialism, statism generally creates poverty.

You want to hear something funny? Kim Jong-il has decided that communism doesn't work. He's taken the word "communism" out of the North Korean constitution and replaced it with "socialism." I don't care where you go, whatever they call themselves, progressives -- go to Detroit -- what do you see in Detroit? Abject poverty. What do you see in most of Michigan? Abject poverty. What do you see where liberal Democrat socialists anywhere in the world have total unchecked power to run things, be it a country or be it a city or be it a state? You see abject poverty. Marxism, socialism, create poverty. I know it's hard to believe that this is somebody's design. But it is.

Somebody who thinks this is an immoral and unjust country, this country deserves to live like the rest of the world, the rest of the world lives in poverty because of us. This is what Obama believes. Obama believes we've stolen the riches of the world, that we have used our imperialism to dominate the world and we're unjust and immoral. If he could rip up that Constitution he would do it. He doesn't like it. It's an obstacle. It is a problem.

If you don't believe me on this, try this. I don't know if you've heard about this. Pat Leahy and John Conyers -- Leahy in the Senate, Conyers in the House -- are pushing a bill through Congress that will create 63 new federal judgeships. There's only one reason for that. Load up the judiciary with more leftists who will ensure that the policies this Congress and this president pass today will be forever upheld within the law. You heard of Roosevelt stacking the Supreme Court? These guys are stacking the federal judiciary. Sixty-three new federal judgeships. The goal of all of this is to smother the individual. The individual, you will be so busy working your way through the maze of rules that are imposed on you in this health care business and everything else that you won't have time to think for yourself. Make no mistake about this.

This is all aimed at robbing you of your humanity and forcing you to bow down to the state. If you feel sick, need a procedure, need a prescription, you're going to be thinking about the government. Who do I see? What do they want me to do for it? Where do I go? What do I have to do to have my treatment approved?

In other words, you are going to be relying on government for your survival. That's never happened before in this country outside of national security and natural disaster contexts, this has never happened before. From now on you're going to need your government's permission to get well. Even if there are people who can medically help you, even if there are technologies and drugs that can help you, you're still going to need permission from the government, some bureaucrat, before you can make use of them, because some bureaucrat's going to tell a doctor somewhere or a hospital whether or not you qualify for treatment.

This is the ultimate power over you and your family. You will do anything your government says, you'll do anything you must if it's a life or death scenario, and especially if it involves your kids, your kids have a sickness, you'll do anything your government asks you to do. The Road to Serfdom, to steal the title of a great book by Friedrich Von Hayek, The Road to Serfdom is paved in Obamacare that they want on his desk for signature by next week.

It's not going to be a matter of whether you can or cannot pay. It won't be a matter of whether you have coverage or don't have coverage. What will matter is that all of us will be slaves, we'll become slaves to the arbitrary and inhumane decisions of distant bureaucrats working in Washington where there's no competition. Nobody you can go to if you don't like what you hear from the bureaucrats that you have to deal with. If you want to take a close look at it, listen to those in this administration and those who run Congress what they're saying about 9.7% unemployment and over 52% youth unemployment. What are you hearing about that? Nothing. You're not hearing a word. You're not hearing a word about the dismal economy, other than, "It's going to be bad for a while, but we're working on it, stimulus is working, working better than we ever imagined." Obama flies off to make some pitch for the Olympics. When he and his people do finally speak about the economy they tell us we're coming out of the recession. Sound like compassion to you?

Now, we've all heard the question asked, and we've all asked the question of members of Congress, "Hey, are you going to sign up? Are you going to sign up yourself and your family to the same health care plan you're putting us into?" There's no way that's going to happen, but wait until you hear this. You don't know the half of their health care plan and options and treatment. You don't know the half of it. I'm going to get to that at the top of the next hour. What you need to know -- and I'm sure you do, you just need to be reminded of this. The same people pushing government health care are the same people who have driven the finances of this nation over the cliff. From the Community Redevelopment Act; Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac; trillions in red ink for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security; they have lied repeatedly about what they're doing what they can do.

And yet they promise yet again to cover everybody for everything at all times, while also insisting they're going to cut costs, cut waste, and be more efficient -- when they've never, ever done it in the history of the country! It's never happened. It's the height of folly; it's a triumph of emotion over common sense, for people in this country to believe that something that has never happened can happen. It's easier to believe that something that has happened can happen again than to believe that something that's never happened can happen.

There's never been a major, serious government program that cut costs, that cost less than what they said it was gonna cost, that expanded freedom -- and, in the final analysis, that actually worked! It never ceases to amaze me that a nation founded on the notion of individual liberty, private property, limited government, is run by politicians now who reject it all. That is, they reject the very principles about which the nation was established.

That is Barack Obama and his administration. That is Barney Frank. That is Harry Reid. They're too cowardly to say so openly. They're too cowardly to say, "You know what? The Constitution is bad. It sucks. The federal government needs more power. The private sector should exist for the sole purpose of funding government." That's what they believe. They don't have the guts to say it. You ought to be happy, they believe, that there are a handful of them smart enough to manage your lives so that you don't keep screwing things up. This is what the left really thinks. This is what the left really believes. But they're too cowardly to just say it. They're too power-hungry to risk having their political asses handed to them, which they would. If they were ever open and honest about their plans they would have their political asses handed to them, and it would be the end of the Democrat Party.

Let me say what needs to be said, whatever the consequences. The consequences have never stopped me before. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Frank and the rest of them do not like this country as constituted. They do not like the Constitution. They do not like the private sector. They do not like individual rights. Their every action and policy is aimed at diminishing all of that. They hate the military, of course, but I'm talking about fundamental principles of liberty, property, limited government. They reject it completely. It's right in front of our eyes to see it, we just have to have the courage to admit it. They are killing the private sector right in front of our eyes. They know it. They're breaking the states. They're all in debt. They know it. They're smothering individual initiative and opportunity, and they know it. It's about our freedom, folks.

Wild Thing's comment........

I wish there was something drastic that could be done to get all of those people out of our government. If they do not respect and follow our Constitution, if they do not listen to "we the people". They should be kicked out or never allowed to run for office.

America IS our Constitution and their hate for BOTH is imo TREASON!

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September 30, 2009

More Kennedy LIES ~ Patrick Kennedy Warns Health-care Debate Could Turn Violent

U.S. Rep. Patrick Kennedy talks about the need for health-care reform at the AARP and the Rhode Island State Nurses Association’s "Perspectives on Health Care Reform" forum at the Providence Marriott Saturday.

Kennedy warns health-care debate could turn violent

Rhode Island news

PROVIDENCE

U.S. Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy fears that supercharged passions fueling the national health-care debate may lead to violence.

Drawing on his family’s violent past, the Democratic congressman told roughly 75 people gathered at a private health-care forum Saturday morning that opponents of Democrat-backed health-care legislation had gone too far. He cited, as an example, 10,000 signs distributed at a recent Washington protest that read, “Bury ObamaCare with Kennedy.”

“My family’s seen it up close too much with assassinations and violence in political life. It’s a terrible thing when people think that in order to get their point across they have to go to the edge of violent rhetoric and attack people personally,” Kennedy told the nurses, union officials and AARP members finishing their breakfasts at the invitation-only event in the Providence Marriott hotel. “It’s fine for people to debate the issue and attack the issue, but when they go and stoop to the level of the vitriolic rhetoric that we’ve seen this debate turn up, it’s very, I think, dangerous to the fabric of our country.”

In a subsequent interview, Kennedy went further in warning that angry opposition could create physical danger for elected leaders.

“I will note that there were a number of prominent security people in this country who spoke very openly this past week that … that there are consequences in terms of trying to protect public officials. There are consequences to violent rhetoric,” he said. “Some people can see through TV ratings and right-wing talk show hosts that just try to create some theater, but unfortunately, there are some that can’t see through it. And that’s the danger in it. There is definitely freedom of speech, but freedom of speech does not allow yelling ‘fire’ in the middle of a crowded movie theater.”

Kennedy referenced an article published Friday on the news Web site Politico that cited interviews with former Secret Service, FBI and CIA officials also concerned that the intensity of today’s debate could produce violence. The article notes that this summer’s health-care protests included an episode where freshman Rep. Frank Kratovil Jr., D-Md., was hanged in effigy. Anti-energy bill protesters tarred and feathered an effigy of Rep. Allen Boyd, D-Fla.

“It’s very, very dangerous,” Kennedy said in the interview. “We put a lot of people in jail around the world for threatening our country’s security. But this atmosphere of attack that doesn’t attack the issue, but attacks the people, is very disruptive to the institution of democracy, which relies on a respect for the opposition.”

He continued: “George Wallace didn’t need a gun to pull a trigger. We just need to be mindful of the wisdom of people … who have been through these ugly periods in American history. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

Kennedy is the only member of Rhode Island’s congressional delegation not to have hosted a public forum devoted to health-care legislation moving through Congress. Saturday’s event, hosted by the AARP, was open to the media, but attendance was limited to a select group that largely supports a health-care overhaul.

Seizing on Kennedy’s reluctance to host a public forum, his likely Republican opponent in next year’s election, state Rep. John J. Loughlin II, has scheduled a health-care town hall of his own in Tiverton this Wednesday. Loughlin has promised to send a DVD recording of the event to Kennedy, who Loughlin says is out of touch with his constituents.

Kennedy on Saturday dismissed the move as a political stunt, and said he would not host a town hall, largely because they fail to produce real discussion.

“Unfortunately, these town hall meetings have been hijacked by these Tea Party folks and extremists who really take away from the honest dialogue on the facts of the debate and end up seeing this issue devolve into fear mongering and the peddling of misconceptions,” he said, referring again to the sign that referenced his father’s death.

“They had mass-produced signs, ‘Bury ObamaCare with Kennedy,’ ” he said after the AARP event. “It wasn’t just an individual who was over the edge in their ideology and vitriol. This stuff was mass-produced and mass-distributed and mass-funded. When you put that together with folks around the country calling in very destructive ways for other things about Obama, and connotations of my family name, it’s not a real stretch as to what the message is here.”

The signs in question were created and distributed by the American Life League, a Virginia-based Catholic antiabortion organization, according to President Judie Brown, who was reached by phone Saturday. She dismissed Kennedy’s assertion that such opposition may incite violence.

“There’s absolutely nothing violent about the sign,” Brown said, noting that her group distributed 10,000 at a rally earlier this month on the national Mall; she could not immediately say how much they cost.

“I believe it was extremely insensitive for his father to have advocated the death of millions of babies,” Brown said, referring to the elder Kennedy’s support for abortion programs. “I don’t think what we did was insensitive.”

Wild Thing's comment.......

Another Kennedy FULL OF CRAP AND LIES! If only he really was the last of that demented brood.

These JERKS won't debate the facts, because the facts won’t work for them, but they know our MSM will parrot the smears and try to derail criticism.

“Bury ObamaCare with Kennedy.”

This is violent? Nobody better shout BOO near him!

We have suffered for 9 months and the evils are becoming less “sufferable” with each passing day. And we DO NOT want to CHANGE our form of government. We want back the original one those 56 men paid a huge price to leave us. It is Obama who is attempting to TRANSFORM (his word) America.

We all understand how much trouble we’re in. It’s already gone so far that even PRAVDA has published editorials declaring that, at “breath taking speed,” America has given itself up to socialism without a whimper of SERIOUS protest (so far).

Even Vladimir Putin told Obama NOT to go down the road Russia took in the 1920s because the thing simply doesn’t work. Yet Obama persists. He has become the poster boy for the definition of “insanity:”

I pray there will not be violence or a gun fired, but the violence so far has all been from Obama's thugs showing up at the Townhall meetings which LIAR Kennedy of course does not mention. Dang I can't stand the Kennedy family.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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John Stossel Video About Obama's anti-American 'Health Care' Plan

Wild Thing's comment......

Wow....I never thought Stossel/ABC would be doing this. Great job at exposing government run health care. He also did a fantastic expose on global warming some time ago.

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September 26, 2009

House Democrats Considering Insurance Tax

House Democrats considering insurance tax

House Democrats are considering an insurance tax to help pay for their health care overhaul plan, even though such a funding scheme is bitterly opposed by labor unions that are among the party's most loyal constituencies.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Friday a tax on high-cost health insurance plans is "under consideration" as Democrats search for consensus within their ranks before taking a bill to the House floor later this fall.

"We just have to see how much money we need for what," Pelosi said. "And if we're taking the bill down in cost, there are other provisions in the Senate bill that bend the (costs) curve that might be more palatable. We'll see."

Pelosi didn't specify what other provisions she might find more acceptable. An aide said that if the House does incorporate an insurance tax in its plan, it would probably be a more modest one than what Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., has proposed.

The House Democratic plan calls for raising income taxes on upper-income people to pay for covering the uninsured. Baucus has instead proposed a tax on high-cost insurance plans worth more than $8,000 for an individual policy and $21,000 for family coverage.

Proponents of the insurance tax, which President Barack Obama has endorsed, say it would help to lower health care costs by encouraging people to become more cost-conscious health care consumers.

Some of the high-cost plans are so expensive because they come with no co-payments or deductibles, and cover every dollar spent for health care. Not all of them provide such "Cadillac" benefits, however. Some are very expensive because they're sold to companies with older employees, or workers in high-risk occupations.

House Democrats are struggling with getting their 10-year, $1 trillion-plus bill down to the $900 billion price tag Obama prefers.

Wild Thing's comment......

Wait a minute here if you do the responsible thing and buy good health insurance instead of expecting someone else to pay it for you, you get taxed for that? They are insane.

TAX,TAX,TAX,TAX, TAX.TAX,TAX,TAX,TAX, and SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND

The Democrat platform in its entirety.

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September 25, 2009

The Million Med March, Doctors to March on Washington DC October 1, 2009

David Acton comments on Million Med March October 1, 2009 in Washington, D.C.

The MillionMedMarch will follow in October to remind our elected officials that we intend to keep coming back to Washington and keep marching until the doctors and the patients are the focus of the healthcare reform.

We will be joined by the Docs4PatientCare group as well as others that will be coming from all across the US. Please join us on October 1 in DC and don't forget to sign the MillionMedMarch Petition. We look forward to seeing all of you in Washington.

The Million Med March, Doctors to March on Washington DC October 1, 2009

Million Med March website

A physician grassroots movement to re-establish honor, dignity and worth to the medical profession. That its sole mission is to protect the relationship between the doctor and the patient...

Mission Statement

Congress should scrap efforts for government to take over medicine through rationing, insurance mandates and the public option.

Congress should institute changes that empower patients and lower costs of health insurance through things like interstate purchasing, tort reform, individual tax credits to buy insurance and deregulation of the insurance market.

The AMA does not represent the physicians of America and are merely another special interest trying to gain financially while patients and the profession lose.

The American Taxpayer cannot afford the debt and entitlement programs – reform Medicare and Medicaid first.

September 17, 2009

President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Mr. President,

I have followed the health reform debate closely from its beginning. In many ways, I have followed this since the beginning of my career in medicine 33 years ago. In your speech to Congress last week you said that the time for bickering should be over and we should get down to the real work of fixing the problems. I agree with you.

I have read HR3200 and the proposed bill from the Senate finance committee. I must tell you, Mr. President, that these proposed pieces of legislation will not fix the problems. Each of these or a compromise of the two will do nothing but add to the cost, the bureaucracy and the waste that you have said repeatedly that you want to reduce.

Although you have stated that we should keep what works and fix what doesn’t, the reality is that it is our systems of health care delivery, organization of government programs and the insurance industry that represent the true issues. These aren’t working for Americans and are at the heart of the issue. Massive new government intervention, billions of dollars of new government spending and regulation will not solve these problems. The problems will only be multiplied and it will be more difficult for physicians and patients to navigate an already overly cumbersome system.

America has the most advanced health care in the world. Although many of the advances in medicine and medical science have benefited from the financial support of the government, it is not the government bureaucracy that is responsible for how far we have come. The success lies with the individual physicians and scientists whose passion for the truth, for solving complex problems and for persisting until they are solved, has given us what we can be proud of as a nation, excellence.

The majority of physicians in this country are driven each day by the desire to provide excellent care to each patient they see. Doctors do not begin their days thinking about the joy they will receive from navigating the morass of insurance and government regulations that have become so entrenched in our daily lives. The joy comes from our work, one patient at a time, one problem at a time. The joy comes from a job well done and America’s patients benefit.

We have not, as a group, been engaged in a meaningful conversation with the administration or congress about solving the difficult issues of providing health care for all Americans while maintaining quality and integrity. We are a deep well of experience, wisdom and talent. We are willing to come to the table.

Yes, American medicine is fragmented. We are not represented by one uniform society. Less than 15% of us belong to the AMA and yet the media and your administration continue to speak as if the AMA speaks for all of us. It does not. Although its member physicians have made tremendous contributions to medical advances and patient care, the corporate organization of the AMA is a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.

This physician’s organization, Sermo, has outlined some basic ideas and ways to begin the discussion in our Open Letter and the Physician’s Appeal. You have the podium, Mr. President. You have the ability to slow this legislative freight train down before it pulls us off a cliff that will damage our ability to provide excellent care to America’s citizens, not improve it.

Personally, I have no political agenda. I am deeply concerned about the course you are taking. I implore you to take the time to meet with working physicians of America. I implore you to listen carefully for it is the healthcare professionals that have made medicine in America the best in the world, not the government. We can help you move this forward constructively. Please give us that opportunity.

Sincerely,
Richard A. Armstrong MD FACS

Wild Thing's comment.......

Hopefully people will go to support the docs and nurses.

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September 24, 2009

Passing a Shell of A Bill: Congress’ Secret Plan to Ram Through Health Care Reform

Passing a Shell of A Bill: Congress’ Secret Plan to Ram Through Health Care Reform

The Scoop at The Heritage Foundation

With the President and Congress’s plan to pass comprehensive health care reform reaching increasingly high levels of unpopularity, and reconciliation becoming an impediment, the leadership of the Senate is rumored to be preparing a new secret plan to railroad the bill through the Senate in record time by using a seldom used parliamentary procedure.

Their plan is to proceed to a House passed non-health care bill to provide a shell of legislation to give Obamacare a ride to the House then to the President’s desk. Sound confusing? We lay out the steps below, but essentially the Senate would pass health care reform as an amendment to a completely unrelated bill so the Senate and House could act quickly and without further debate. Even worse? Nobody really knows what that legislation looks like but they plan on voting for it anyway.

Right now, the Senate Finance Committee is in the midst of marking up health care reform “legislation.” Due to Senate procedure, what they are actually marking up is a 200+ page conceptual framework of the actual legislation, not a real bill. That means that not only has no Senator even read the bill but, there is a high probability that the bill hasn’t even been written yet. If the Committee sticks to their artificial deadline of completing work by this Friday then they would have passed a conceptual document reforming the nation’s health care system, spending trillions, without ever seeing an estimated 1,500 pages of legislation, which may or may not be written.

The current plan is to start debate on Obamacare as early as next week under the following four-step scenario:

STEP ONE:

The Senate Finance Committee will finish work on the marking up of Senator Max Baucus’ (D-MT) conceptual framework for legislation by this Friday. Baucus has not unveiled final legislation and, according to the Associated Press, he added some new language to the mark up today. AP reports that “under pressure from fellow Democrats, the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee decided to commit an additional $50 billion over a decade toward making insurance more affordable for working class families.”

Senators have not been provided any real legislation and are offering amendments this week to Baucus’ 200+ page outline. It is expected that at the end of the process the Senate Finance Committee may produce a bill longer than the 1,000 page House bill that proved so controversial over the August recess. Many Senators are upset that they don’t have final language for a bill, yet still they sit in a Committee Hearing Room this week marking up a draft document that is not in the form of legislative language. The plan is to have this document voted out of the Senate Finance Committee by Friday.

STEP TWO:

Next, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will take the final product of the Senate Finance Committee and merge it with the product of the Senate Health, Education, Labor & Pensions (HELP) Committee. This was the late Senator Kennedy’s (D-MA) bill, introduced by Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA), which passed the HELP Committee on July 15, 2009 on a party line vote. Remember, most Senators will still not know what they voted for in the Finance Committee.

STEP THREE:

Senator Reid will then move to proceed to H.R. 1586, a bill to impose a tax on bonuses received by certain TARP recipients. This bill was the bill passed by the House in the wake of the AIG bonus controversy and is currently sitting on the Senate Legislative Calendar. Reid will move to proceed, and he will need 60 votes to act on this bill. After the motion is approved, he will then offer a complete substitute bill purportedly including the combined Senate HELP and Finance Committee products. This means that the entire health care reform effort will be included as an amendment to a TARP bill that has been collecting dust in the Senate for months.

STEP FOUR:

For this strategy to work, the proponents would need to hold together the liberal caucus of 57 Democrats, 2 Independents (Senators Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont), and a potential new member replacing the late Senator Kennedy. This scenario would most likely be implemented after the Massachusetts state legislature gives Governor Deval Patrick the power to appoint a new Senator and that Senator is seated by the Senate. According to CQ, the state legislature may pass a bill and present it to Governor Patrick by next week.

Once the Senate passes a bill and sends it to the House, all the House would have to do is pass the bill, without changes, and President Obama will be presented with his health care reform measure thereby transforming within a few weeks 1/6th of the US economy. If this plan does not work, the Senate and House Leadership may consider using reconciliation to pass the legislation.

Does this sound like a transparent, bipartisan and effective way to change the way millions of Americans get their health care? Of course not.

Democrats reject GOP amendment to require health bill to be available online before vote

WASHINGTON

Senate Finance Committee Democrats have just rejected a GOP amendment that would have required a health overhaul bill to be available online for 72 hours before the committee votes.

Republicans argued that transparency is an Obama administration goal. They also noted that their constituents are demanding that they read bills before voting.

Democrats said it was a delay tactic that could have postponed a vote for weeks.

The Democrats say that unlike other committees, the Finance Committee works off conceptual language that describes policies — instead of legislative language that ultimately becomes law, and which the GOP amendment would have required. Democrats accepted an alternate amendment to make conceptual language available online before a vote.

Wild Thing's comment.......

So, Congress passed the stimulus package without the majority of it's members having read the bill. Now comes the ultimate abdication of responsibility and duty: passing a bill that hasn't even been written yet. Could this be any more un-democratic?

This is another reason why any bill passed anywhere in the country needs to be a ONE ITEM bill.

It will simply not matter even a little who is in Congress in December 2010 if any form of this thing is passed and signed. It is irreversible and ends the Free Economy and, eventually (not long), the Republic.

STEP THREE: Senator Reid will then move to proceed to H.R. 1586, a bill to impose a tax on bonuses received by certain TARP recipients. This bill was the bill passed by the House in the wake of the AIG bonus controversy and is currently sitting on the Senate Legislative Calendar. Reid will move to proceed, and he will need 60 votes to act on this bill.

That may be the saving grace. Hopefully even the RINOS will see what a slimy, sleazy process this is.

2010 is a long way off. We need to keep pounding out the message. But it needs to be refreshed now and again so as not to become boring and repetitive. People are getting motivated. We need to keep that motivation in high gear for a year. A daunting task.

Because of the Tea Parties, the Townhalls meetings, phone calls and letting politicans know how we the people feel right now at this time the votes aren't there and they aren't going to be there for any substantial increase in the government's control over health care. The votes aren't there, in large part, because the money isn't there. The government doesn't have it and can't raise it. Even if they managed to roll a shiny new health care program off the lot this year, the repo man would take it back before most of its provisions could take effect.

We are going to be dismantling our welfare state in the decades to come because we can't pay for it. Nothing Congress does today can change that reality.

Socialism doesn't work. The left has been able to keep the scam going for years, but it is unraveling now.

Keep fighting the good fight, secure in the knowledge that, in the long run we can't lose. Eventually liberty will triumph because our society is deeply committed to it and nothing else works nearly as well. In our current circumstances nothing else will work at all.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 02:30 PM | Comments (6)

September 21, 2009

Obama in Interview with George Stephanopolous Says "I don't care what Merriam-Webster says on Taxes"

Obama Interview with George Stephanopolous of ABC News, aired September 20, 2009

George wonders how mandates on the middle class is not a tax increase on the middle class ... why he even went to the dictionary to see the definition of taxes. The One's response ... I don't care what the dictionary says ... it's not a tax increase. Nuance!

Obama tells us that relying on the definition listed by Merriam-Webster is "stretching." Instead, we should just accept his position: the dictionary is wrong, let's move on.

ABC

STEPHANOPOULOS: That may be, but it's still a tax increase.

OBAMA: No. That's not true, George. The… ?for us to say that you've got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase. What it's saying is, is that we're not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore than the fact that… right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance. Nobody considers that a tax increase. People say to themselves, that is a fair way to make sure that if you hit my car, that I'm not covering all the costs.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But it may be fair, it may be good public policy...

OBAMA: No, but… but, George, you… you can't just make up that language and decide that that's called a tax increase. Any...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Here's the...

OBAMA: What… what… if I… if I say that right now your premiums are going to be going up by 5 or 8 or 10 percent next year and you say… well, that's not a tax increase; but, on the other hand, if I say that I don't want to have to pay for you not carrying coverage even after I give you tax credits that make it affordable, then...

STEPHANOPOULOS: I… I don't think I'm making it up. Merriam Webster's Dictionary: Tax…"a charge, usually of money, imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes."

OBAMA: George, the fact that you looked up Merriam's Dictionary, the… definition of tax increase, indicates to me that you're stretching a little bit right now. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gone to the… dictionary to check on the definition. I mean what...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, no, but...

OBAMA: ...what you're saying is...

STEPHANOPOULOS: I wanted to check for myself. But your critics say it is a tax increase.

OBAMA: My critics say everything is a tax increase. My critics say that I'm taking over every sector of the economy. You know that.

Wild Thing's comment.......

Obama shares about his philosophy of government and how he defines a tax increase. It turns out the President thinks a health-care tax is not a tax if he thinks the tax is for your own good. So, a tax is NOT a tax !

Ever notice how Obama always sounds like he's chastising people like they're a bunch of little children who just can't understand. Now he feels the need to redefine the dictionary too!!

And the look on George’s face was priceless. It was like he couldn’t believe what he was hearing.

Obama is an insane moron. I think he actually believes his “gift” will make you believe whatever he says.

Good grief.

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September 19, 2009

Obama LIES in Health Care Speech Story About Delayed Treatment

Story From Obama Health Care Speech Turns Out to Be False

FOX News

President's speech writers appear to have been informed by erroneous media reports, including an article on Slate.com, about a man who was dropped from his insurance plan and later died.

President Barack Obama, seeking to make a case for health-insurance regulation, told a poignant story to a joint session of Congress last week. An Illinois man getting chemotherapy was dropped from his insurance plan when his insurer discovered an unreported gallstone the patient hadn't known about.

"They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it," the president said in the nationally televised address.

In fact, the man, Otto S. Raddatz, didn't die because the insurance company rescinded his coverage once he became ill, an act known as recission. The efforts of his sister and the office of Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan got Raddatz's policy reinstated within three weeks of his April 2005 rescission and secured a life-extending stem-cell transplant for him.

...The patient's sister, Peggy M. Raddatz, testified before the House Energy and Commerce oversight subcommittee June 16 that her brother ultimately received treatment that "extended his life approximately three years." Nowhere in the hearing did she say her brother died because of the delay.

The YouTube links below are Part 1 and 2 of a tape made by a couplefrom their ranch in south-central Texas . At their own expense, they made 1000 copies and sent one to every singlecongressman and senator and several media outlets.

Let's hope that each and every one of them watched and LISTENED!!!

US Senior Citizen Speaks Out on Healthcare Bill - Part 1

US Senior Citizen Speaks Out on Healthcare Bill - Part 2

Wild Thing's comment.......

If Rep. Joe Wilson had yelled out "Obama misspoke"...maybe he would not have gotten such flak for saying LIE.

YO Obama you ARE a LIAR!

I love the bottom two video's of the US Senior Citizen speaking. Fantastic! Thank you Sir!

We need to keep letting our politicans know how you feel.

....Thank you Richard for sending this to me.

Posted by Wild Thing at 08:46 AM | Comments (4)

September 17, 2009

Democrat Senator Warns of 'Big, Big Tax' on Middle Class in Baucus Bill

I am also adding House Minority Leader John Boehner ( Republican) reacts to Sen. Baucus' health care plan

Dem Senator Warns of 'Big, Big Tax' on Middle Class in Baucus Bill

ABC news

It's not every day that you hear a Democratic senator charge that a fellow Democrat is proposing to raise taxes on the middle class, but that is what happened on Tuesday when Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., ripped into the health-care bill developed by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mt., the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.

The Baucus proposal would impose, starting in 2013, a 35 percent excise tax on insurance companies for "high-cost plans" -- defined as those above $8,000 for individuals and $21,000 for family plans.

Health economists believe a tax on high-priced benefits could help slow the growth of health costs by making consumers more sensitive to prices.

The tax contemplated by Baucus is also a big revenue raiser. It is expected to raise $200 billion, money that Baucus is hoping to use to pay for subsidies for the uninsured.

Given how much money this kind of tax can raise, Rockefeller says he understands why it is "tempting."

The West Virginia Democrat worries, however, that a lot of middle class workers, like the coal miners in his state, will end up facing "a big, big tax" under the Baucus bill because they currently enjoy generous employer-provided health care benefits which they receive tax free.

Referring to Baucus, Rockefeller said, "He should understand that (his proposal) means that virtually every single coal miner is going to have a big, big tax put on them because the tax will be put on the company and the company will immediately pass it down and lower benefits because they are self insured, most of them, because they are larger. They will pass it down, lower benefits, and probably this will mean higher premiums for coal miners who are getting very good health care benefits for a very good reason. That is, like steelworkers and others, they are doing about the most dangerous job that can be done in America."

"So that’s not really a smart idea," Rockefeller continued. "In fact, it’s a very dangerous idea, and I’m not even sure the coal miners in West Virginia are aware that this is what is waiting if this bill passes."

Wild Thing's comment.........

Baucus had earned a place next to Graham, Rudman and Hollings on the Mt. Rushmore of irrelevancy.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 05:48 AM | Comments (4)

September 15, 2009

Democrat Rep. Pete Stark Townhall Meeting

Stark attended a town hall meeting on health care in Fremont, Calif. over the weekend. A senior citizen lit into various Obamacare talking points and told Rep. Stark: “Don’t pee on my leg and then tell me it’s raining.”

At 1:38 of the video clip, Stark grabbed the microphone and lashed back: “I wouldn’t dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn’t be worth wasting the urine.”

Wild Thing's comment.........

This is the same Pete Stark that told a reporter he’d effin throw him out the window.

Posted by Wild Thing at 05:40 AM | Comments (2)

September 14, 2009

Obama Sets Stage for Using Budget Maneuver to Pass Health Reform

Obama sets stage for using budget maneuver to pass health reform

The Hill

Barack Obama this week has been laying the foundation for Senate Democrats to use a controversial budget maneuver to pass healthcare reform.

By offering Republicans olive branches during his address to Congress on Wednesday, Obama has set up a win-win situation. If GOP lawmakers embrace compromise, a healthcare bill would pass Congress easily. But the more likely scenario is that Republicans will continue to oppose Obama’s plan, and the president later this fall will be able to note he tried to strike a deal with the GOP but could not.

That will set up a Democratic argument that Senate leaders have been forced to use a partisan budget tool known as reconciliation to pass a health bill through the Senate by a simple majority, instead of 60 votes. Under the budget plan they passed earlier this year, Democrats could invoke the reconciliation process on Oct. 15.

Republicans contend that the use of reconciliation would be at odds with Obama’s call for bipartisanship during his 2008 presidential campaign. But Obama has countered that argument in recent days by forcefully resurrecting the anti-Washington rhetoric that got him elected.

In Cincinnati on Monday, Obama blamed the "usual bickering in Washington" for the "funk" supporters of healthcare reform were enduring. And in a discussion with students at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Va., on Tuesday, Obama said "there are a lot of politicians like that who, all they're thinking about is just, ‘How do I get reelected?’ and so they never actually get anything done."

Then on Wednesday night, Obama sought to portray his health reform plan as one that contains both Republican and Democratic ideas.

"The time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed," Obama said. "Now is the season for action."

On "Good Morning America" on Wednesday, Obama repeated his call for Congress to stop playing politics. He also acknowledged he made a tactical error in giving lawmakers too much leeway to craft a bill.

"I, out of an effort to give Congress the ability to do their thing and not step on their toes, probably left too much ambiguity out there, which allowed, then, opponents of reform to come in and to fill up the airwaves with a lot of nonsense," Obama said.

The president also said that the White House has made every effort to include Republicans and their ideas in the process, but blamed "unyielding partisanship" for the absence of compromise.

The president went so far as to warn Republicans that he "will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than improve it."

Another aspect of the Democrats’ rationale for using reconciliation will likely be the $787 billion stimulus bill, which they note included tax cuts but was only supported by three Republicans in Congress.

Republicans, predictably wary of Obama's maneuvering, said if Obama is setting up a defense of reconciliation, it will do little to blunt the blowback from both Congress and the American people.

“If Democrats use controversial insider tactics to force a proposal that the majority of Americans disagree with, not only would they guarantee bipartisan opposition, but they would also spark a new level of outrage among a huge majority of people in this country," said a Senate Republican leadership aide.

Wild Thing's comment........

"By offering Republicans olive branches during his address to Congress on Wednesday"

This is a total lie Obama did not do this. I'm not sure what speech "The Hill" was listening to, but I surely didn't hear any olive branches in Wednesday's performance. If fact, the only branches I saw were the ones Obama used to forcefully and frequently jab into the eyes of the Republican caucus.

“If you misrepresent the contents of this bill, we will call you out.””

Obama sure loves to make threats.

The Evil One doesn’t care about anything but advancing his agenda of destroying America. He wants a USSA.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 04:45 AM | Comments (6)

September 13, 2009

Doctors, Nurses and Oher Medical Professionals Had Rally in Washington D.C. Sept.10th

September 10, 2009, doctors, nurses and other medical professionals came to Washington, D.C. from across the country to show their opposition to Obamacare.

Dr. Shannon Norris, a radiologist from Atlanta, holds a People’s Cube poster describing Obamacare as offering “the efficiency of the Postal Service, the sustainability of Social Security and all the compassion of the IRS”.

Dr. Steven Ellison, a cardiologist from Georgia, displays graphically how doctors feel about being targeted by a party and president that slander and demonize them. On the podium, speaker after speaker talked about the slurs President Obama has made about doctors performing unnecessary amputations and tonsillectomies out of greed. Not only is it untrue that doctors profit from these procedures, but the premise that they would do such harm to their patients is an insult to doctors.

Dr. Hal Scherz, a pediatric urologist from Atlanta, founded Docs for Patient Care to voice doctors’ opposition to the “big rush” for a big government solution to health care reform. The organization of doctors suggests practical proposals such as tort reform, insurance reform, and opening up insurance pools between states.

Their petition to Congress can be found at TakeBackMedicine.com

Wild Thing's comment......

Good I am glad to see this. They need to speak up it effects them too. Socialism is not something that will only touch half of America it will touch every person in our country.

God bless all of them and I hope and pray we never have what Obama is trying to do to our country.

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:48 AM | Comments (4)

September 12, 2009

Head CZAR Obama Ignoring Will of People on Healthcare Reform

Obama Ignoring Will of People on Healthcare Reform

newsmax

Barack Obama’s “horrible overreach” and his “enormous expansion of government, government control, government cost” are the major motives for Saturday’s taxpayer march on Washington, says former House Majority Leader Dick Armey.

“So what we’re saying today is, 'We’re back again.' We will be on the streets of Washington, D.C.,” Armey tells Newsmax.TV. His non-profit organization, FreedomWorks, is the national sponsor of the event.

“This is a day of unity for people who love freedom. People understand that the government is best if the government will restrict itself to its essential activities and do these things well and stay out of other people’s business and control its growth,” Armey says.

Armey, a major player in the 1994 Republican Revolution and the Contract with America, says Democrats on Capitol Hill are ignoring the spring tea parties and summer town hall protest meetings.

“So we had, for example, the tea parties in April and now the liberals in Congress and the president have said, ‘Ignore those folks, they’ll go away, they don’t matter.’ Then they came back from the August recess and said the same thing.”

Is Obama ignoring the will of the American people? Has he turned a deaf ear toward them?

“Yes, he has. I mean, I laugh. For example, we’ve all known that the first, worst waste in healthcare practice in America is that $100 billion worth of defensive medicine, doctors defending themselves against lawyers and imposing unnecessary medical procedures on their patients that oftentimes are uncomfortable and even downright painful, but so unnecessary. We’re all listening. He says, 'Well, we’re going to put that on the table. I’ve instructed my secretary of health and human services to have a dialogue about it.' Well, as Shania Twain [sang], ‘That don’t impress me much.’ That’s not tort reform. That’s not taking action on it. That is acknowledging you have a concern and we’re going to hope you’re dumb enough to fall for this and think of it as us acting seriously on the subject.”

Does Armey think there’s any chance of Republicans being able to force tort reform or removal of insurance purchase restrictions into the healthcare overhaul bill?

“No, I don’t think so. Certainly not tort reform for the simple fact that one of the principal funders of the Democrats’ party’s election efforts is the tort bar. They’re not going to double-cross these guys. If I’m a tort lawyer in America I look at my congressman and say, ‘Look, I bought that guy fair and square. I’m not going to stand for him imposing responsible tort laws on my practice.' No, that’s not going to happen. The other thing is that we have talked about voluntary associations in private sector, especially among small business people in certain industry like hardware stores and so forth. Democrats have blocked that for years. Now they bring it back as a government-sponsored cooperative and they find it acceptable. But once again, they have taken what has been a good private sector idea, that they’ve rejected for years, while they now say, ‘You guys don’t have any ideas.’ They corrupt it into a government-sponsored enterprise like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – you saw what they did to the housing industry. These cooperatives would do the same thing to healthcare as Fannie and Freddie did to housing.

“If [Democrats’ healthcare reform] is stopped, it will be because the voice of America has been heard finally in Washington.”

Still, Armey says the resolve of the American people is very impressive.

“It’s amazing to me. We’re going to have tens of thousands of people all of whom got here on their own terms, at their own expense and none of whom have received any compensation for being here and are only here for the simple reason we love liberty and we want to see officeholders in Washington be respectful of our Constitution, be protective of our liberties and serve the American people. It’s a fascinating thing to watch this.”

Wild Thing's comment.........

Ignore us at your peril Obama. We will not be silent!!

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 08:48 AM | Comments (2)

September 09, 2009

Obama's Reading of the Teleprompter ~ Socialized Medicine Speech

Welcome, we have entered the theater of the absurd.

"I am not the first President to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last. It has now been nearly a century since Theodore Roosevelt first called for health care reform. And ever since, nearly every President and Congress, whether Democrat or Republican, has attempted to meet this challenge in some way. A bill for comprehensive health reform was first introduced by John Dingell Sr. in 1943. Sixty-five years later, his son continues to introduce that same bill at the beginning of each session.

Our collective failure to meet this challenge – year after year, decade after decade – has led us to a breaking point. Everyone understands the extraordinary hardships that are placed on the uninsured, who live every day just one accident or illness away from bankruptcy. These are not primarily people on welfare. These are middle-class Americans. Some can’t get insurance on the job. Others are self-employed, and can’t afford it, since buying insurance on your own costs you three times as much as the coverage you get from your employer. Many other Americans who are willing and able to pay are still denied insurance due to previous illnesses or conditions that insurance companies decide are too risky or expensive to cover."

I am not the first president to take up this cause. But I will be the last.

It will be your Waterloo

“Our collective failure”

Obama has no clue how he comes off, he is already saying we are worse than any other civilized nation on earth. SHUT UP.

30 million citizens "can not get coverage".

Not 50 anymore I see.

Note to Obama .......
We are not a Democracy. The United States of America is a Republic!!!!

He thinks he is righteous tonight!

We are the only advanced democracy that allows such hardship for 30 million citizens who can not get coverage! Every day 14 thousand americans lose their coverage.

14,000 lose health ins. every day ... is he saying 420,000 Americans are losing their jobs a month? I thought he just said he fixed that!

Doom and Gloom Doom and Gloom

How can he say “more and more Americans” are wanting Obamacare everyday? HOW CAN HE SAY THAT?

Nancy Pelosi is sucking on candy or gum - an observation.

And when throws out statistics and numbers. It’s all made up stuff.

Scare tactics up next... Americans will DIE if we don’t act...

Sorry to say they will die faster if govt takes over their Freedom of choice.

“The time for bickering is over.”

Instead of honest debate we have scare tactics.

Yeah. Your party is the biggest offender.

Gosh, Pelosi looks like she just swallowed an unmentionable or something. LOL oops sorry, I could not help thinking that but it did look like it.

“nothing requires you to change”

ya ya ya...we heard that before. Saying it twice doesn’t make it true

He’s says he’s giving “details” .... rehash of previous talking points.... NO DETAILS so far....

"Nothing in this legistlation will make you change your doctor"

Translation: don't believe your lying eyes what the bill says.

Someone just hollered out “lie!” Friggin’ awesome!

He is rambling-—promising everything that working taxpayers already have.

And the zombies in the congress applaud this bizarre spectacle?!!!

Teleprompter to the left
Teleprompter to the right
Stand up set down
Fight Fight Fight

He’s telling us what it means to be “responsible”.

Now calling Republicans “LIARS”...Death panels are a “lie, plain and simple,” he said.

Individuals will be required to carry coverage like car insurance?

Holy shit. He just proposed marxism. From each according to his works, to each according to his needs.

You will ALL be responsible citizens and everyone will buy into this plan. Period.

It irresponsible and you will be compelled and will be a partner, period.

Obama had just said that illegal immigrants would not be covered under his health care plan:

it is toward the end around 1: 17 or so. OMG this is sooo great that someone did this.

Someone just shouted lie again! When he was talking about illegals not going to be coverd! LOL and booed too.
It ticked him off too! awesome...yell it again! LIE

OMG it was a congressman that just called Obama a LIAR?!!! Nancy Pelosi just gave him the evil eye from hell. IT'S THE FOX NEWS

Adding this after I found out who it was that yelled LIE.....SC Rep. Joe Wilson heckled the commie Obama.

BIG hug for Joe!!

From Associated Press:

South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama had talked about illegal immigrants.

It wasn't the only interruption during Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress in the House of Representatives. Earlier, Republicans laughed when Obama acknowledged that there are still significant details to be worked out before a health overhaul can be passed.

Wilson's outburst caused Obama to pause briefly before he went on with his speech. Overhead in the visitors' gallery, first Lady Michelle Obama shook her head from side to side.

“If you can’t find affordable coverage, we will provide you with a choice.”

Several Republicans took copies of plans they had and were holding them up so when Obama said Republicans had NO plan they waved the hard copies of paper with their plans on it that Obama has been ignoring.

God bless them for doing this to obama while he spoke. heh heh

“I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits now or in the future.”

LOL what a LIE

I “PROMISE” that no government bureaucrat will come between you and your health care”....

HE REALLY SAID THAT!!!

Lecturing private companies about “excessive administrative cost”....

...as opposed to GOVERNMENT!!!!!!

Now he’s lying to the seniors about that 500 BILLION dollars he’s going to steal from medicare/medicaid—ack!

Now he’s attacking ‘tax cuts for the rich’ and the Iraq War. This guy still thinks he’s on the campaign trail.

Congressional Jeers For Obama

He has twice dissed Palin (without mentioning her name). He is scared to death of her. He is already campaigning against her. lol

He says he wants to talk directly to seniors.. and then does his windshield wiper look. He couldn’t even memorize a single phrase to say directly into the camera.

Showing Pelosi again.....LOL Pelosi looks like she needs another face stretch. You can see her now and then trying to suck her cheeks in.

“Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan.”

Why not just reduce the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid, and then come talk to us about your trillion dollar plan

Love to see a tabulation on all the “I’s” and “My’s” .... Record Breaking!

He is angry it is really obvious.

LMAO, I just love John Boehner’s “he’s full of crap” look

“Previous administration”

Would that be Bush? Hey, Obama , you have been at the wheel for 10 months almost and the ship is taking on water, fool.

He’s just repeating most of the BS that he has been saying for the last 2 months. All condensed into one lengthy, boring speech.

He keeps saying “my plan” -

“My door is always open” - he hasn’t seen Republicans on this at all

Republicans were holding up their bills and indicating, why haven’t you talked about this?

Now he’s in his preacher mode, sounding like his pal Rev. Jermiah Wright.

And NOW the Kennedy B.S. Ted Kennedy moment. Win one for the swimmer. He’s channeling the spirit of Ted Kennedy....Pulling out the “Ted” card and using the widow for sympathy - oh and the kidlets too. Sick ba$tard. Oh and Teddy talked about morals again. GAG GAG PUKE.

Any republican who votes for any version of Health Care should be stuffed in a barrel and put out in the Bering Sea.

McCain clapping and cheering for the communist...AUGH....I wish I was a drinker this might be less hard to do. hahaha

Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing.”

“I know many in this country are deeply skeptical of this...”

No kidding

Just finished. Fox says it was 48 minutes

A few statemtns from the transcript:

"During that time, we have seen Washington at its best and its worst.

We have seen many in this chamber work tirelessly for the better part of this year to offer thoughtful ideas about how to achieve reform. Of the five committees asked to develop bills, four have completed their work, and the Senate Finance Committee announced today that it will move forward next week. That has never happened before. Our overall efforts have been supported by an unprecedented coalition of doctors and nurses; hospitals, seniors’ groups and even drug companies – many of whom opposed reform in the past. And there is agreement in this chamber on about eighty percent of what needs to be done, putting us closer to the goal of reform than we have ever been.

But what we have also seen in these last months is the same partisan spectacle that only hardens the disdain many Americans have toward their own government. Instead of honest debate, we have seen scare tactics. Some have dug into unyielding ideological camps that offer no hope of compromise. Too many have used this as an opportunity to score short-term political points, even if it robs the country of our opportunity to solve a long-term challenge. And out of this blizzard of charges and counter-charges, confusion has reigned.

Well the time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action. Now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together, and show the American people that we can still do what we were sent here to do. Now is the time to deliver on health care.

The plan I’m announcing tonight would meet three basic goals:

It will provide more security and stability to those who have health insurance. It will provide insurance to those who don’t. And it will slow the growth of health care costs for our families, our businesses, and our government. It’s a plan that asks everyone to take responsibility for meeting this challenge – not just government and insurance companies, but employers and individuals. And it’s a plan that incorporates ideas from Senators and Congressmen; from Democrats and Republicans – and yes, from some of my opponents in both the primary and general election."

***

"Here are the details that every American needs to know about this plan:

First, if you are among the hundreds of millions of Americans who already have health insurance through your job, Medicare, Medicaid, or the VA, nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.

What this plan will do is to make the insurance you have work better for you. Under this plan, it will be against the law for insurance companies to deny you coverage because of a pre-existing condition. As soon as I sign this bill, it will be against the law for insurance companies to drop your coverage when you get sick or water it down when you need it most. They will no longer be able to place some arbitrary cap on the amount of coverage you can receive in a given year or a lifetime. We will place a limit on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses, because in the United States of America, no one should go broke because they get sick. And insurance companies will be required to cover, with no extra charge, routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms and colonoscopies – because there’s no reason we shouldn’t be catching diseases like breast cancer and colon cancer before they get worse. That makes sense, it saves money, and it saves lives.

That’s what Americans who have health insurance can expect from this plan – more security and stability.

Now, if you’re one of the tens of millions of Americans who don’t currently have health insurance, the second part of this plan will finally offer you quality, affordable choices. If you lose your job or change your job, you will be able to get coverage. If you strike out on your own and start a small business, you will be able to get coverage. We will do this by creating a new insurance exchange – a marketplace where individuals and small businesses will be able to shop for health insurance at competitive prices. Insurance companies will have an incentive to participate in this exchange because it lets them compete for millions of new customers. As one big group, these customers will have greater leverage to bargain with the insurance companies for better prices and quality coverage. This is how large companies and government employees get affordable insurance. It’s how everyone in this Congress gets affordable insurance. And it’s time to give every American the same opportunity that we’ve given ourselves."

***

"This is the plan I’m proposing. It’s a plan that incorporates ideas from many of the people in this room tonight – Democrats and Republicans. And I will continue to seek common ground in the weeks ahead. If you come to me with a serious set of proposals, I will be there to listen. My door is always open.

But know this: I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it’s better politics to kill this plan than improve it. I will not stand by while the special interests use the same old tactics to keep things exactly the way they are. If you misrepresent what’s in the plan, we will call you out. And I will not accept the status quo as a solution. Not this time. Not now.

Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing. Our deficit will grow. More families will go bankrupt. More businesses will close. More Americans will lose their coverage when they are sick and need it most. And more will die as a result. We know these things to be true.

That is why we cannot fail. Because there are too many Americans counting on us to succeed – the ones who suffer silently, and the ones who shared their stories with us at town hall meetings, in emails, and in letters."

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Harry Reid Says 90% Agreement on DEATH Care Bill

Remember when this sorry excuse for an American couldn’t wait to get in front of the press and announce breathlessly that “we killed the Patriot Act”. Didn’t happen! ~ Wild Thing

Reid Says 90% Agreement on Health Care

Political Punch

After emerging from a nearly hour meeting with the President, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that there is now 90% agreement on the way forward for health care reform.

“Even before the August recess, 80 percent of health care is already done,” Reid said, “In our conversations today, we think we're up to 90 percent of things there are agreed upon. We have 10 percent that we need to work on, and we can do that.”

Pelosi and Reid sat down with the President and the Vice President for Oval Office this afternoon and emerged in front of reporters upbeat.

“The president and vice president were very positive,” Reid said, “And it's in keeping with the conversations I've had with my members the past week; that is, we're reenergized, we're ready to do health care reform.”

Pelosi said it is an exciting time and there is “plenty to work from” for the Finance Committee to act.

Reid said he, like the White House, has not seen a copy of Senator Baucus’s draft bill yet.

The Majority Leader said that they are working on the 10% areas of disagreement and said they are still approaching this in the form of bipartisanship but did not rule out reconciliation.

“We still, after all these months, have a place at the table for the Republicans, and we're going to do everything we can to work with them. We want a bipartisan bill. We do not want to do reconciliation unless we have no alternative.”

Reid said that his is “personally” in favor of the public option. Yet he did not speak for the majority of the Senate and chose rather to say that this is a view shared by the majority of the House.

“The majority -- in my mind, there's no question that the majority of -- I can't speak for the House caucus, but if I were betting I think the majority of them also believe in a public option. And we're going to do our very best to have a public option or something like a public option before we finish this work.”

Pelosi confirmed again that the public option is essential for House passage.

“if somebody has a better idea of how to do that, put it on the table,” Pelosi said, “For the moment, however, as far as our House members are concerned, the overwhelming majority of them support a public option.”

Pelosi ducked the question if the trigger option would be an acceptable alternative.

“This, as I say, is the legislative process. And right now, we will have a public option in our bill,” Pelosi said, but later added a prognosis that the trigger option would be worse for insurance companies, “They'd be better getting a public option now than one that is triggered because if you have a triggered public option, it's because the insurance industry has demonstrated that they're not cooperating, they're not doing the right thing, and I think they'll have a tougher public option to deal with.”

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs today said that the President wanted to meet with Pelosi and Reid to get a “legislative lay of the land,” and talk to them about “where members are.”

Reid said that the President did not give much of a preview of his speech before a joint session of Congress, but is confident the message will get through to the American people.

“I have every belief that when he finishes the speech tomorrow, the American people will be able to put aside some of the ridiculous falsehoods that have been perpetrated these past few weeks and focus on what we're going to do that's positive for this country.”

Later yesterday.............this was announced..........

Pelosi and Reid Tell President: We Have the Votes; President Wants Bill Passed Soon

Political Punch

While White House spokesman Robert Gibbs today refrained from telling reporters whether President Obama in his speech Wednesday night will set a deadline for passing health care reform, sources tell ABC News that in his private meeting with Democratic congressional leaders this afternoon the key word was urgency.

The president told House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., that it is important for them to pass health care reform bills soon, the sources said.

Both leaders told the president that despite the difficult rough and tumble of the legislative process in the last few weeks, they are optimistic that both the House and Senate can pass health care reform legislation.

What will be in the bill remains an open question, though after the meeting, Reid told reporters that “we're going to do our very best to have a public option or something like a public option before we finish this work.”

Make That 24 25 37 House Dems Who Say They'll Vote Against Obamacare

37 Democrats Committed to Voting Against ObamaCare in Current Form; Caucus Can Only Spare 38 Votes

Weekly Standard

The Hill's Mike Soraghan and Michael M. Gleeson report:

At least 23 House Democrats already have told constituents or hometown media that they oppose the massive healthcare overhaul touted by President Barack Obama.

If Republicans offer the blanket opposition they’ve promised, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can afford to lose only 38 members of her 256-member caucus and still pass the bill.

Hill reporter Michael O'Brien adds another Democrat to the list -- Arkansas's Mike Ross, who says he'll oppose any bill with a public insurance plan.

One more opponent is Jim Cooper of Tennessee, who wrote in a July op-ed that he would vote "no" on the bill.

Also, 19 Democratic members of Congress wrote in June that "we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health plan." Twelve of these 19 congressmen aren't already on The Hill's list of "no" votes:

Collin Peterson (Minn.)
Tim Holden (Pa.)
Lincoln Davis (Tenn.)
Solomon Ortiz (Tex.)
Jerry Costello (Ill.)
Mike McIntyre (N.C.)
James Oberstar (Minn.)
Steve Driehaus (Ohio)
Marcy Kaptur (Ohio)
John Murtha (Pa.)
Paul Kanjorski (Pa.)
Kathleen Dahlkamper (Pa.)

So that makes 37 Democratic votes in the House against Obamacare. And I'm sure I'm missing more than a few others.

Of course, members could be induced to change their mind if the bill is changed (or if they're bought off), but as it stands there are (almost) enough Democrats on record to defeat the current health-care legislation in the House

Wild Thing's comment.........

They think the town halls were rowdy and near riot, let them shove this crap down our throats. I got your rowdy right here.

Regarding Reid saying that about 90% agreement, this is all smoke and mirrors and bait and switch. Obama is on record as wanting the government plan. They are going to come up with some grand "compromise" that will allow them to get what they want obliquely, after the sham bill with whatever provisions hidden away that will allow it.

Just in case pray hard that Snowe does not cave. They want Republicans so they can weaken Republicans in the next election and strengthen themselves.

America doesn't want commiecare, deathcare, or whatevercare. They want choice not government intervention and power grab.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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September 08, 2009

More Then 10,000 Cheering Proud Americans Meet the Tea Party Express in New Lenox, Illinois!

If the turn out at all the stops along the route of the Tea Party Express, including the past Tea Parties and the Townhall meetings are any indicator, DC is going to be overwhelmed with flag waving patriots opposing big government and Obama’s radical agenda.

Outstanding!

New Lenox Illinois, backyard of President Barack Obama, drew 10,000 patriots unhappy about the way things are going in America. New Lenox was one of the Tea Party Express' 33 city tour, finishing September 12 in DC.
Produced by Illinois Review.com

Chicago's local media provided very favorable coverage of the event. See, NBC Chicago, "Tea Party Rally Draws Huge Crowd," and especially, WLS-TV Chicago, "Protest Bus Stops in New Lenox":

The Tea Party Express rolled into suburban New Lenox this Labor Day, drawing an expectation-breaking crowd of thousands who decried President Barack Obama, his health care initiative and stimulus spending.

Organizers said they expected 200-400 people to attend the rally, but were blown away when a crowd -- which some claimed was north of 10,000 -- gathered with American flags and signs denouncing big government.

The local authorities tell us that there were ”more than 10,000″ in attendance and that traffic was so heavy getting off the expressway that they had to close it down! Many of those there said that they were there because they “know Obama”!

An ocean of 10,000 people

Sterba said that one event organizer even apologized to him for the massive crowd.

"It's been very organized, this event, and the crowd itself has been just fine," said Sterba, adding that there were no policing problems other than issues with traffic.

10,000 Americans chanting "USA! USA!" It's enough to take your breath away. Think what you want about us anti-American, phony astroturf "teabaggers" but we are taking this country BACK!

Monday's stop was the only Chicago-area stop, and the 20th for the Tea Party Express, a national tour of rallies across the nation. The effort began in California and is traveling east.

"We're taking all the passion and all the emotion of the tea parties earlier this year, and we're channeling them into constructive action on our way to Washington, D.C. for the Taxpayer March on D.C. on the 12th," said Mark Williams, the co-Vice Chair of the Tea Party Express and a conservative talk show host based in California.

montage of images from the Tea Party in New Lenox on Sept. 7, 2009. Music: 311 - Don't Tread on Me, Photos: Me (except for the four stock images in the middle, of course)

"We want to support our government, but we want to support the right things in government. We want less intrusive government, and more freedom," said Eddie Deal, who attended the rally with his wife Carolyn and their two small children, Luke and Joshua.

Telfer, a tree trimmer and a member of Local 9, the union representing electrical linemen and the people who work with them, is still on the job. But his hours recently were cut to 32 a week. If the government controls health care, it won't be good, he said.

"They are telling us our rates are going up. Why should we be paying more?" Telfer asked.

Patriot Guard Riders sliced through the traffic and escorted the Tea Party Express to the state line

Please go to 7:38 for sure on this video. To see the man in the photo below. He is a WW11 Veteran. As it says in the video, he flew over 30 combat missions to defend our freedom.

He was a gunner on a B-25 Mitchell Bomber

Fox News' Griff Jenkins reporting from above the crowd

In the crowd, Al Kempf Jr., 63, of Mokena, was dressed as a naval officer from the War of 1812. He wore a tricorn hat, a ruffled white shirt, a heavy wool officer's coat, white breeches and, oddly enough, black sneakers.
He carried a homemade sign: "Do not surrender our freedom to politicians." Used tea bags were tacked to its border.

Although the day was very warm and his outfit was winter-ready, Kempf said he didn't feel overheated.

As he finished, a woman walked up with a camera, asking to take his picture with her children. Kempf graciously agreed.

"History is something where you can read about others or live it yourself," he said.

Wild Thing's comment........

Rollin! Rollin! Rollin! Freedom is ON THE MARCH!

For the first time in my adult life I’m proud to be a homegrown terrorist . Thank you Department of Homeland Security!

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September 07, 2009

Health Care Overhaul is More Payback to Union Bosses

DC Examiner: Health Care Overhaul is More Payback to Union Bosses

DC Examiner

In the Washington Examiner, columnist Kevin Mooney discusses a shocking new analysis of the "Obamacare" health care overhaul legislation distributed by National Right to Work Committee experts.

The proposals are a Trojan Horse for forced unionization of the health care field. Numerous troubling provisions in the proposed bills would divert billions of dollars into union coffers and facilitate the imposition of unionization on unsuspecting doctors, surgeons, nurses, and home care providers all across the country.

Union officials are likely to fill key positions on committees making major decisions if President Barack Obama's government-run health care reform proposal becomes law, according to a new study by the National Right to Work Committee.

Sections 123 and 2251 of H.R. 3200, the version of Obamacare being pushed by House Democratic leaders, are of particular concern, according to NRTWC, because they could put union-backed appointees on new government committees that recommend mandatory health insurance benefits provided by private insurers, and personnel policies the bill describes as necessary "to ensure quality and adequacy" of the nation's health care workers.

Such provisions could put labor officials in positions to influence health care policies across the country, said Greg Mourad, director of legislation for the NRTWC, and to mandate that health care workers join unions.

"Big labor is guaranteed a place on the various committees, and that's something we see as a dangerous sign," said Mourad, the principal author of the NRTWC study. "The idea is to get the whole country on a model where you have teams of union stewards telling doctors what to do."

"In every section we cite, unions are guaranteed a place on the various boards, but the compositions of the boards are very flexible, and with Obama and his appointees naming the members of the various committees and commissions, all could easily be stacked by Big Labor sympathizers," he added.

The end result could very well be the forced unionization of every health care professional in the United States.

Wild Thing's comment......

UNIONS = Obama's army

From the Washington Examiner link in the article above:

Section 164 of the Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 provides that the government pay 80 cents on the dollar to corporate and union insurance plans for claims between $15,000 and $90,000 for retirees age 55 to 64. Union health insurance funds only have about 30 cents available to cover each dollar of anticipated claims, according to the Lewin Group and other research outfits.

If this provision were to be passed as part of the overhaul package favored by the Obama Administration, the $10 billion figure would probably expand overtime as union plans continue to come under financial pressure, Packer said.

I guess the death panels are for people that are over 65.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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Tom McClintock (R-CA) Town Hall Health Care Meeting

"The American People did it again! We don't have to wait out Barry Obama's term to stop his Marxist march against America. We got rid of Van Jones... but the battle is a long ways from over. KEEP UP THE PRESSURE! California Congressman Tom McClintock's Townhall meeting erupts in favor of American liberty and against Obama's socialized medicine and other oppressive, controlling policies."

Wild Thing's comment......

I thought this was a really well done video of McClintock's Townhall meeting.

McClintock has a great website too, he really has been speaking up about the socialized medicine.

http://mcclintock.house.gov/multimedia-archive.shtml

From his website:

"House Chamber, Washington, D.C. July 28, 2009. Mr. Speaker: In order to support the Democrats’ healthcare plan, we are asked to accept three arguments that are fundamentally absurd: First, that the same government that pioneered $400 hammers and $600 toilet seats is somehow going to control healthcare costs; Second, that the same government that runs FEMA is going to make our health care system more efficient and responsive; Third, that the same government that runs the IRS is going to make our healthcare more compassionate and understanding"

Tom McClintock would have been Gov. of Calif. if Arnie had not run. I so wish the rino Arnie had not run.

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Top 10 Ridiculous Democrat Quotes on Health Care

Illinois Review

Human Events top 10 ridiculous health care quotes by Democrats:

1. “I don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them just to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don’t mind cleaning up after them, but don’t do a lot of talking.” -- President Obama at an August 6 at a rally in Virginia

2. “They’re carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on health care.” -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in an August 5 interview

3. “What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?” -- Rep. John Conyers (Mich.) at the National Press Club, July 24

4. “These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views -- but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American.” -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (Md.), writing in USA Today, August 10

5. “The last time I had to confront something like this was when I voted for the civil rights bill and my opponent voted against it. At that time, we had a lot of Ku Klux Klan folks and white supremacists and folks in white sheets and other things running around causing trouble.” -- Rep. John Dingell (Mich.), on MSNBC

6. “What we’re seeing right now is close to Brown Shirt tactics.“ -- Rep. Brian Baird, (Wash.) told a local newspaper

7. “The last time I saw well-dressed people doing this, was when Al Gore asked me to go down to Florida when they were recounting the ballots, and I was confronted with the same type of people.” -- Sen. Barbara Boxer (Calif.)

8. “I hope people will take a jaundiced eye to what is clearly the Astroturf nature of so-called grassroots lobbying ... The Astroturf nature of grassroots lobbying, which is largely the term for, you know, this is manufactured anger.” -- White House spokesman Robert Gibbs

9. “Republicans and their allied groups -- desperate after losing two consecutive elections and every major policy fight on Capitol Hill -- are inciting angry mobs of a small number of rabid right-wing extremists funded by K Street lobbyists to disrupt thoughtful discussions about the future of healthcare in America taking place in congressional districts across the country.” -- Democratic National Committee communications director Brad Woodhouse

10 (tie). “These are nothing more than destructive efforts to interrupt a debate that we should have, and are having. They are doing this because they don’t have any better ideas … It’s really simple: They‘re taking their cues from talk-show hosts, Internet rumor-mongerers and insurance rackets.” -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.)

“Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.” -- Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.), responding to a town hall participant.

Wild Thing's comment.......

If one carefully considers the significance of these remarks, one would see that there is no compromise with them. What you have here is the stuff civil wars are made of.

This is for pure insanity.

“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?” -- Rep. John Conyers (Mich.) at the National Press Club, July 24

I am surprised this idiot has the intelligence to speak!!!!

At the Glassboro NJ meeting, Rep Rob Andrews repeatedly told audience members who opposed the bill and who read to him, directly from the bill, “well, that’s not my interpretation.”

Earth to Dingell, the KKK and Jim Crow laws were created by the Democrats. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed because of votes from Republicans. Robert Byrd (D-WV,KKK member) filibustered against it. Al Gore Sr (D-Tenn) and William Fullbright (D-Ark, Billy Clinton’s mentor) fought vehemently against it.

“I will vote adamantly against the interests of my district if I actually think what I’m doing is going to help them.”- Eric Massa, D-NY

Kamikaze politicians (particularly ones who don’t know or care that what they are saying is self-contradictory) are dangerous.

.... Thank you Eden for sending this to me.

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September 06, 2009

Marine Veteran David Hedrick Challenges Rep. Brian Baird at Second Town Hall Meeting

"You made the unlucky choice of picking my number once again"

"Since I spoke out last time, I've faced intimidation, I've had people try pass my number around, they've passed my address around, they suggested people come and visit my family in the middle of the night, I wanna make something clear, If you did not hear me before I am a United States Marine and I will not be intimidated"

2nd Town Hall Meeting held on August 31st 2009 in Olympia, Washington. David tells Brian Baird he is not going to be silent anymore and he is tired of the Government taking more and more of his freedom away. Brian Baird reads Article 10 of the Constitution and explains how Health Care is covered in it

Wild Thing's comment......

LOL I love it. He picked his number again!!!

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September 05, 2009

Officer Probed for Saying America 'no more'

No Joker! Officer probed for saying America 'no more'

wnd

A school security officer in Virginia who told a protester opposing President Obama's health-care plan that America is "no more" remains employed but is now under investigation because of his statements, according to his school district.

"I have to say, I've seen the video. We do not condone what the officer did say," Paul Regnier, the coordinator of communications and community relations for Fairfax County Public Schools told WND today.

WND reported earlier when a YouTube video showed school Security Officer Wesley Cheeks Jr. objecting to a protest sign carried at a town-hall meeting held by Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va. The sign read, "Organizing for National Socialist Health Care – The Final Solution." It depicted Obama as the Joker character of Batman films.

"This used to be America," argued a protester outside a health-care town hall meeting in Reston, Va., after Cheeks threatened him with arrest for holding up a sign with a picture critical of Barack Obama. The officer's response?

"It ain't no more, OK?"

At the time, a WND unscientific poll showed overwhelming outrage over the officer's actions.

Asked "What should be done about security officer who threatened arrest over anti-Obama sign?," 45 percent of the 5,455 voters said he should be reprimanded, fired and used as an example.

Another 28 percent said he should be fired for bullying with a badge. Eleven percent said he should be reprimanded.

Get the prescription for reclaiming America's heritage of liberty – before the what the officer said is true – Joseph Farah's "Taking America Back," autographed only at the WND SuperStore.

WND messages trying to reach the protester were not returned, but on the YouTube channel where the video appeared, there was a claim of credit for the production from a participant identified as "Dissentfromday1."

Many people were left outside when the school filled to capacity. School security officer Wesley Cheeks, Jr. did not like my anti-Obamacare poster which used one of the gone-viral 'Joker' graphics," the video source said. "When I said to Officer Cheeks, 'This used to be America!' his response was: 'It ain't no more, OK?'"

"I feel sorry for Officer Cheeks. He, like many African-Americans are being played by the racist Obama administration. Wake up people. They used to want you only for your votes, but now with the huge Hispanic illegals pouring in they won't even need you for that," the video source said.

The video, which had surpassed 450,000 views, also attracted more than 6,000 comments, including one that clearly implied racial overtones to the officer's opposition to the poster.

"If it had been a Sarah Palin rally and the cop had been white, he would be on his way to federal prison for civil rights violation," said a YouTube forum participant.

Regnier told WND the district would not comment on personnel issues. He did confirm the congressman's event had been under a rental arrangement on school property and the officer was there as part of a school assignment.

But he also confirmed that whatever sign rules the school normally would impose would not have been in effect since the facility had been rented for the congressman's meeting.

"We are looking into this and will take appropriate action," he assured WND.

But he said that because of the personnel issues involved, no information would be released.

Asked to confirm that Cheeks still is on staff and on duty, Regnier declined.

"He is still an employee," he said.

Cheeks had told the protester that even though others were holding signs, his sign was unacceptable because of the depiction of Obama.

"But you got this with a picture," Cheeks said, explaining why the protester was singled out from the others. "That's the difference. This has got a picture on it. That don't have a picture on it.

"Sir, leave the picture down," the officer said. "If you put the picture back up, you'll be charged with trespassing."

The protester continued the argument, wondering how his presence among hundreds of others at the town hall meeting could be deemed trespassing.

The officer answered, "If I told you once to take it down and you put it back up, I can charge you with whatever I want to charge you with."

The argument continued until the officer walked away.

"This used to be America," said the protester.

"It ain't no more, OK?" answered Cheeks.

If you would like to file a complaint, go here:

Agency: Fairfax County Virginia Police Department Program or Service: Internal Affairs Bureau

Complaints should be addressed to:

Major James A. Morris
Fairfax County Police Department
(703) 246-2918

Wild Thing's comment.......

“”I have to say, I’ve seen the video. We do not condone what the officer did say,” Paul Regnier,..”

Hey Paul, if you leave him with his job then you DO condone is statements.

Contrary to what their officer thinks, this is STILL America, the Constitution has not yet been scrapped, the First Amendment still applies, and their oath requires that they respect the right to free speech of all Americans, even when the officer does not like the speech. The First Amendment does not just protect speech the officer on the scene agrees with, and he is not free to implement his own mini-constitutional suspension zone.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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Tea Party Express Arrives in Dallas/Ft.Worth! OOHRAH!

3,000+ at Dallas Tea Party Express Rally

Organizers of the Tea Party Express caravan said it was the biggest crowd since they began a cross-country, grass-roots marathon last month in Sacramento, California.

Many attending the lunch time rally outside the Cape Buffalo restaurant carried signs reading "ObamaScare: It's to die for," "Hands off our Medicare & guns" and "'We're not going to pull the plug on Grandma' — THEY JUST WON'T PLUG HER IN."

The crowd was large and so vocal that 3 television choppers circled overhead feeding live shots to their respective stations’ Noon news.

"As at other stops, we were joined up on stage by local speakers and faced a roaring crowd all fired up to take America back from the Marx Brothers…. Obamo, Reido and Pelosio. They have a message for Washington…. Don’t with Texas!"

It was an energized crowd that overwhelmed the available space in the parking lot of a restaurant. Some people parked half a mile away. Passing cars on the congested corner blasted their horns in support. There were hundreds of signs. The buses were hailed like a military battalion returning from abroad.

The good news is that this story made at least three of the four networks - NBC, FOX and ABC at the 5 pm news casts. A TeaParty spokeswoman, said on NBC, “This is the biggest rally so far on the trip.”

The tour also made a "whistle stop" scheduled for 2:45 p.m. at an Interstate 30 rest stop in Mount Vernon, Texas; then continued on to Little Rock, Arkansas at 6 p.m. and Memphis, Tennessee at 10 p.m.

•11:00 AM – Rally in Dallas, TX – Cape Buffalo Grille, 17717 Addison Rd, Dallas, TX 75287

•2:45 PM – The Whistle Stop – Mile Marker 143; 1 hour and 45 minutes east of Dallas, TX; 170 miles east on Interstate 30; 4 miles west of Mt. Vernon, Franklin County, TX

Video's from various News Stations:

(click here to go to the video from WFAA TV)

DFW News another video from their news station

This car has a motor in both ends and really runs!

Did Sebastian go to the Tea Party in Dallas? This little dog sure looks like Sebastian.

"Just pics, no music, couldn't find exactly what I was looking for--yes, I know the dates are wrong on some of the pics, for some reason my camera is a day behind despite being correct in the camera menu! Go figure. The photostory for this event was made with MS Photostory 3 for Windows. " ~ CJ in Dallas, TX

Kevin Jackson is author of The Big Black Lie and the writer of The Black Sphere blog, it is a great blog.

I posted a few of his articles he wrote.

LOL Kevin is good! Hahahaha He talks about waterboarding, oh just all kinds of things. Enjoy!

Wild Thing's comment......

Outstanding turnout! Never underestimate the will of the American people!

"... THEY JUST WON'T PLUG HER IN."

I love Texans. This sums up Obamacare in a sentence fragment.

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Fox Will Not Broadcast Obama Speech on FBC ~ Good For FOX

Fox Will Not Broadcast Obama Speech

Here's a statement from the network:

Fox will not broadcast President Obama's speech on Wednesday

“The Fox Broadcasting Company will not air the Presidential Address to Congress on Wednesday, September 9 at 8:00 PM (ET). FOX’s sister networks, Fox News Channel and the Fox Business Network will air the presidential address in its entirety. FOX will alert viewers with an on-screen graphic at the top of the 8:00 PM (ET) hour that the presidential address is available on Fox News Channel and the Fox Business Network.”

Wild Thing's comment.......

He loves his the sound of his voice too much. I hope the other stations take a stand against this, but they won't, and they'll lose millions. Smart move by FOX. Their ratings would take a pretty big hit had they decided to go with Baracko.

There is no reason to air his stupid speech on every single channel. It is one thing to air it on the news channels, but regular TV???? Give me a break.

Of course the DICTATOR Obama wants to be on all of them, like USA, TNT, TCM, FX, Bravo, History Channel, and the Military Channel, sci fi, Disney, Discovery.

Posted by Wild Thing at 04:48 AM | Comments (2)

Obama's ' 9/11 Plan' : Blast 'right-wing' Terror

Democrats' 9/11 plan: Blast 'right-wing' terror

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The Democrats, whose presidential administration previously condemned as "potential terrorists" those who oppose same-sex marriage and are offended by restrictions on firearms, all based on Internet chatter, has suggested blasting those who oppose Obamacare as "right-wing domestic terrorists" on 9/11 of this year.

According to an "Organizing for America" campaign document unveiled by the Heritage Foundation the plan involves having activists telephone their "State Senators" on Sept. 11, 2009, to demand a "public option" which essentially would involve a government-funded and government-run monopoly on health care.

Bobby Eberle, posting on a Republican Party site called The Loft, said Obama "and his team have no limits on what they will do or say in order to inject socialist views into the minds of Americans.

"They also have absolutely no respect or appreciation for the American way and the sacrifices Americans have made in order to stay free and to promote the American way of life across the globe. Just take the latest effort being pitched at BarackObama.com. Rather than remembering the Americans who lost their lives during the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, Obama's political team wants you to make phone calls on 9/11 to fight back against 'Right-Wing Domestic Terrorists,'" Eberle documented.

"September 11 should be a day to grieve and remember, not a day to lobby for government-run healthcare. It certainly should not be a day to demonize fellow Americans. America's enemies are violent extremists, bent on bring this nation to its knees, not soccer moms, dads and senior citizens who may disagree with one's political or policy views."

Continued Eberle, "This is absolutely outrageous, and this is exactly what was written on BarackObama.com. Obama and his team are using all means to get out their message on health care ... even resorting to spamming e-mail messages. Yet, when the opposition tries to get its message out, that is labeled as 'subverting the American democratic process.' This is crazy!"

But he said the bigger trouble was comparing conservatives opposed to Obama's health takeover to members of al-Qaida who flew planes into buildings and killed thousands.

"Do Obama and his 'friends' have no shame?" he asked.

The complete lack of comprehension to what the events of 9-11-2001 did to this country makes me sick. I was there! I saw Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. People died. And this is how Obama and his supporters remember them? Outrageous!

Wild Thing's comment.........

These people are so out of touch with reality. What horrible people Obama and his Orangizing America people are.....evil.
There really is nothing they respect nor do they even care that people were killed on 9-11.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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The Tea Party Express ~ “whistle stop" at Mt. Vernon, Texas

Report from the Tea Party Express

The setup for this incredible event was quite strange. We had been approached several weeks ago by people outside of the tiny community of Mt. Vernon, Texas about whether we would consider doing a quick “whistle stop” rally.

The catch: it would be at a rest area, located at mile marker 143 on I-30.

We agreed to do the stop, figuring we’d do a quick touch-and-go stop and shake the hands of the 10 or 20 people who *MIGHT* show up. And if it was just a man and his wife and their two kids, so be it. If nothing else it would make for a good restroom stop.

So imagine our shock and awe as we pulled up to the rest area, saw a contingent of State Troopers and their vehicles with lights flashing and a giant crowd of people behind them.

As we pulled further in we were guided by the troopers who cleared a path through the crowd and then several hundred (estimates ranged from 550 – 800 people) gave us the warmest greeting you could possibly imagine as we got off the bus.

We didn’t have our sound system or stage, or anything like it. So we found a pickup truck, hopped up on it, found a person in the crowd with a bullhorn and had the greatest impromptu rally you could ever imagine.

To those shameless liars on the Left who are smearing and demeaning the tea party movement and calling it Astroturf, we say this: YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!

It is not the tea party supporters who are showing up with professionally printed signs from Obama’s political wing – no, that is the astroturfing efforts that YOU have engineered.

Today, like every other day of this tour, we have been greeted by real, everyday Americans who have showed up with homemade signs in their hands, and a passion and love for this country in their hearts.

Here’s the scene from a rest area on the side of a road at Mile Marker 143. These people touched and inspired all of us aboard the Tea Party Express in a way they will never fully appreciate:

And this from a frienid Traci at Facebook

"I was at the Whistle Stop of the Tea Party Express today! What an AMAZING gathering of patriots who turned out for the love of our country! Estimates at this very small rest area were around 1,500! Thanks to the frontage road and a small BBQ place...we were able to park and walk to the rest area! I am so proud to be a participant in history....defending our constitution...protecting the liberties that this ENTIRE government is trying to steal from us...and basically fighting for the very freedoms so many of our military have died for so that these freedoms will STILL exist for those who return home from foreign lands. GOD BLESS AMERICA and all of those that are giving so much of themselves for this battle we are now in! "

Wild Thing's comment......

FANTASTIC! I have yet to work on any of these posts about Tea Party Express with dry eyes. They are so touching and I love to see the love for our country.

Posted by Wild Thing at 04:46 AM | Comments (3)

Tea Party Express Pulls Into Little Rock, AR.

"We were running behind in our schedule as a result of the huge crowd in Dallas (Addison, TX) and then the fantastic whistle-stop near Mt. Vernon, TX. So we called ahead and let our local organizers in Little Rock, Arkansas know that we’d be a little late. If they minded the inconvenience they sure didn’t let it show."

Wild Thing's comment......

So wonderful, keep it coming, I love it. All the way to Washington D.C.

Posted by Wild Thing at 04:45 AM

Dueling Buses ....Obama vs. Tea Party Express

Hot Air has a great post up comparing the Organizing for America bus tour photos to those of the Tea Party Express

Wild Thing's comment.........

Yes Obama is a copycat! He can't be original if his life depended on it. LOL

Check out their comparisons of the photos – and then ask yourself which is the authentic grass roots effort, and which is a manufactured astroturf effort.

Even his "change" is old, it is taken from the things that never workd, communisim, socialism, Marxism. He stole words for his speeches from others. His stupid circle logo he insists on having..NO other President of our country even had that stupid mentality....because he is DIctator!!!

Posted by Wild Thing at 04:40 AM | Comments (4)

September 04, 2009

Democrat Cannibal with MoveOn.org Bites Finger Tip Off 65 Year Old Obamacare Opponent

Healthcare reform activist bites off fingertip of 65-year-old man, authorities say [Updated]

Los Angeles Times

Authorities today are searching for a healthcare reform activist who they said bit off the fingertip of a 65-year-old man during a fight at a MoveOn.org rally in Thousand Oaks.

“It all started with their difference in philosophy over healthcare reform,” said Senior Deputy Eric Buschow of the Ventura County Sheriff’s Department.

The incident occurred about 7 p.m. Wednesday at a “We Can’t Afford to Wait Vigil” organized by affiliates of the activist group MoveOn.org, which drew supporters of President Obama’s healthcare plan, Buschow said. The rally also attracted several counter-protesters, he said.

[Updated at 5 p.m.: During the rally at Lynn Road and Hillcrest Drive, near the Oaks Mall, the suspect and William James Rice got into a heated argument and began fighting, Buschow said. Rice, of Newbury Park, punched the suspect after the man called him an "idiot," Buschow said.

William Rice, 65, of Newbury Park also confirmed reports that he threw the first punch in the confrontation that claimed part of his left pinky.

“When he got in my personal space, I popped him in the nose,” Rice said. “I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself.”

At that point, one man bit off the the tip of Rice's left pinkie finger, Buschow said.

After the argument, Rice returned to where his own group was standing. A man from Moveon.org’s area then walked over to the opponents and verbally confronted Rice, allegedly calling him names and acting aggressively, Bonfiglio said.

Rice later told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, Bonfiglio said. The punch set off a fist fight between the two men, during which the tip of Rice’s left pinky finger was bitten off, Bonfiglio said.

Rice then drove himself to Los Robles Hospital and Medical Center, about a mile away, Buschow said. A witness picked up the detached fingertip after the suspect spit it out and drove it to the hospital. Buschow said doctors told the victim that they could not reattach the fingertip because of the high risk of infection.]

Ilyse Hogue, director of political advocacy and communications for MoveOn.org, called the incident “a regrettable act of violence” in a statement released this morning.

“While we do not have any more facts about what happened than what we saw in press accounts, MoveOn condemns violence in all forms,” Hogue said. “We support the Ventura County sheriff’s investigation into the situation. It is in our firm hope that this event does not detract from the tens of thousands who were out peacefully making their voices heard for health care reform and a public option.”

Authorities said they are looking for a white male in his late 40s or 50s who was last seen wearing black shorts and a black shirt.

“We’re still trying to figure out who was the aggressor,” Buschow said.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Ventura County Sheriff’s Department at (805) 494-8201.

Courtesy photo / Ventura County Sheriff's Department -- This image provided by the Ventura County Sheriff's Department shows the beginning of an altercation between William Rice, at right in the khaki shirt and olive shorts, and an unidentified man wearing black, who authorities say bit off Rice's little finger. The sheriff's department is seeking the public's help in identifying the man in black at far right, by calling the investigations bureau at (805)494-8201.

Man accused in T.O. finger-biting incident sought

Ventura Star

Doctors told Rice the finger, severed near the second knuckle, would not survive because it had been cut by a human bite, he said in a phone interview today.

Rice said he did not initially plan to participate in any demonstration Wednesday. He was driving by the vigil when he spotted Code Pink members, and he stopped to see if they were protesting the military, he said. Rice has a son who is an officer in the Marine Corps.

After a brief conversation with Code Pink members, Rice said, he was satisfied they were not protesting the military. He was leaving when a man who seemed “deranged” approached and called him an “idiot,” he said.

Rice said he felt like the man had singled him out because he was the “easiest target.” But the incident happened quickly, he said, and he doesn’t clearly remember everything that preceded the altercation.

Scott Bush, 43, of Thousand Oaks said he was standing with Rice in the group opposed to healthcare reform when a man walked from the Moveon.org group across the street and over a traffic island toward them.

Bush said the man asked the group if they were for a public health insurer option, and they responded “no.” The man then singled out Rice and asked him why, according to Bush. When Rice responded that he didn’t want the government involved in anything, the man came to within 3 feet of Rice and yelled, “You’re an idiot,” Bush said.

Bush said Rice then hit the man in a defensive move. The man then pulled Rice into the street, according to Bush.

After a fight that lasted only a few seconds, Bush said, he heard Rice say, “He bit my finger off,” and he saw a stump.

Bush said he later found the roughly 1-inch piece of Rice’s finger next to the traffic island about 20 feet away.

The suspect fled the scene, authorities said. He was described as a short man with a medium build, wearing a blue cap, black shirt and black shorts. He remained at large this morning.

While who threw the first punch is not in dispute, much about what happened before and after remained unclear today, sheriff’s Detective Eric Buschow said.

Investigators had not determined, for example, if the man intended to bite off Rice’s finger, Buschow said.

Authorities did not consider the man a criminal suspect this morning and were not looking to arrest him, said the detective.

“We want him to come forward so we can talk to him. We want to hear his side,” Buschow said.

Anyone with information about the incident can call Crime Stoppers at 800-222-TIPS

Wild Thing's comment.........

Typical DemoSissy. He resorts to biting rather than fighting like a man.

Thousand Oaks is normally a pretty placid place with very little in the way of noteworthy violence. It got it's name because of the many Oak trees in the area. It is a beautiful place and in a lot of the areas like living in the country. Emotions must be running strong on this issue!

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 07:55 AM | Comments (12)

The Tea Party Express in San Antonio! Remember the Alamo!

The Tea Party Express got a Texas style welcome at the Alamo yesterday morning. There was really a great crowd and a great Tea Party in San Antonio!! GO TEXAS!! Remember the Alamo!!

Now on the road to Waco!!

San Antonio Tea Party & Tea Party Express Alamo Plaze

San Antonio Tea Party & Tea Party Express Alamo Plaze 9-3-09 Video 2

LOL this is great they tell about something they did to Harry Reid. hahahahha Love it.

San Antonio Tea Party & Tea Party Express Alamo Plaze 9-3-09 Video 3

This is one of America's Heroes, he is a Vietnam Veteran. He has two signs, so I am posting both of them.

I LOVE this sign!!!

Texas Congressman Refuses to reaffirm Oath, Calls Constitution “a piece of paper” not “relevant”. Texans Respond with a Line in the Sand at the Alamo with the Tea Party Express

September 3rd, 2009 At this morning’s huge gathering of Tea Party Patriots at the Alamo we were approached by a disabled veteran and his wife. They had attended a recent town hall meeting held by Representative Charles Gonzales (D-TX) who represents the Texas 20th District, which includes much of San Antonio.

According to them a constituent of the congressman rose at one point and asked him to reaffirm his oath to the Constitution. He is said to have refused and in doing so termed the Constitution of the United States a [worthless] “…piece of paper (that) is no longer relevant.”

Wild Thing's comment......

If you ever go to The Alamo also go to Riverwalk and ride the boat. It is pretty cool. Also, the restaurants along riverwalk look expensive, but they are not. The riverwalk is about 2 blocks from the Alamo.

God bless these wonderful Americans!!!! I love the Tea Party Express!!!

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September 03, 2009

The Tea Party Express In El Paso Texas!!!

Waynelle Strachan of Clint prepares a sign that she will wave at the national Tea Party Express bus and rally that will be held this morning at Sue Young Park in Northeast El Paso. Strachan and about 20 other supporters showed up early to get parking and make signs for the rally.

The Tea Party Express Rolls Into Texas!!

All aboard for El Paso and San Antonio!! The Tea Party in El Paso at 10:00 am this morning and another tomorrow morning at 11:00 am in San Antonio at the Alamo!! ...then Waco and Dallas!!!!

Thirty-five cities, thirty-five tea parties in sixteen days!! Rebellion is brewing!!

Griff Jenkins - On The Road With The Tea Party Express In El Paso Texas...he also goes on the bus and visits with some there too.....Take a good look at the people.It makes me ashamed of what the Obama administration is tring to do to these awesome America loving fellow patriots...

"The Star Spangled Banner"

They all joined in and said......" Don't Tread On Me! "

Our tribute to the military is an emotionally charged part of the Tea Party Express. This young soldier tearfully hugs Kay Rivoli, of the Rivoli Review

Wild Thing's comment........

Another great day for America!! The videos and photos say so much!!!!

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Wanting a Pink Slip, Harry Reid Holds "No Questions Allowed" and "Invitation Only" Townhall Meeting

Spineless Harry Reid Holds "No Questions Allowed" and "Invitation Only" Obamacare Town Hall Rally

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is too spineless to face his constituents at a normal town hall. So, he held a "no questions allowed" rally with invited union members and supporters of Obamacare at UNLV......with a heavy union presence. When one man tried to get in who was against ObamaCare, he was told to get out.

Other citizens were turned away at the door. Earlier this month, Harry Reid waved a piece of Astroturf and said, "I just want to show you what Astroturf really is." Senator Reid, you have shown the citizens of Nevada you know exactly what "Astroturfing" really means.

Wild Thing's comment......

Naughty ugly Harry, he sure is working hard NOT to get elected again. He is an idiot, so this cannot be classified as a ‘town hall’ when it is not. It is a health care rally and nothing more.

Our Founding Fathers would probably SHOOT Harry Reid for what he is doing. It is totally against how our government is set up. But they way he looks it is hard to tell if they have done it already. hahha

Posted by Wild Thing at 05:45 AM | Comments (4)

September 02, 2009

Tea Party Express Rolls into Albuquerque!!

There were great speakers, excellent singers / entertainers and lots of excitement about where we go from here in order to start taking back OUR COUNTRY!

Wild Thing's comment........

What I love about these videos is if there are people that won't be able to go to one of the Tea Party Express events, if they are not able to be in your city it is a GREAT way to see and feel too what they are like.
High energy, positivie, people that LOVE America, that with all their hearts know how important this is to take our country back.

Heh heh I bet Obama hates hearing how successful the Tea Party Express is and the impact it has on our country.

WE THE PEOPLE HEAR US NOW!

"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men". - Samuel Adams

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Swine Flu Shot H1N1 and H.R. 3200 The Health Care Bill

State preps to relocate quarantined H1N1 victims

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DES MOINES, Iowa

A blank document from the Iowa Department of Public Health has been discovered online, designed to be filled in with the name of an H1N1 virus victim who is required to relocate from his or her home to a quarantine facility.

The form, which began appearing today in e-mails and on the Internet, has concerned a confused public already swimming in conflicting reports about the severity of the swine flu and intrusive government measures that many fear may be taken if the disease becomes a pandemic.

The Iowa document, which WND confirmed with state officials is authentic, has done little to calm the public's fears.

"The Iowa Department of Public Health has determined that you have had contact with a person with Novel Influenza A H1N1," the form reads. "The Department has determined that it is necessary to quarantine your movement to a specific facility to prevent further spread of this disease.

"The Department has determined that quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable," the document continues, before listing mandatory provisions of compliance with relocation to a quarantine facility.

The blank-form document, which has no name or case number listed, is titled a "Facility Quarantine Order," and though Iowa Department of Public Health Medical Director Patricia Quinlisk confirmed the state has the form, she told WND it's highly unlikely it will ever be used.

"We've had these kinds of template orders for years, but we hardly ever use them," Quinslick said. "I can count on two hands the number of times – in 20 years – that we've had to relocate a person because of quarantine."

Quinslick wasn't certain who released the blank document, or who signed her name to the bottom of some versions circulating on the Internet, but she wasn't concerned that it's been made public.

"We're not trying to hide anything," she said. "This is the kind of form we use."

Quinslick told WND her department has prepared similar documents for several contagious diseases to "have them ready just in case."

But at the same time, she said, state law requires that when IPDH does need to quarantine someone, it be done in the least restrictive way possible, which typically means in the person's home.

"Usually when we relocate, it's only because they have no place to be, like a homeless tuberculosis patient," Quinslick said, "One time, I recall, we relocated a homeless man to his relative's house."

The Facility Quarantine Order for the H1N1 virus that has been circulated online illustrates Quinslick's point.

Following the order that a person be removed from his or her home, the form contains a blank for explaining the reason, including one of the following: "the person violated a previously issued home quarantine order, the person does not have an appropriate home setting conducive to home quarantine, etc."

Quinslick told WND it was doubly unlikely the state would use the form, since the swine flu has proven less dangerous than earlier estimates.

"I don't anticipate using [the form] for H1N1, since it's been shown to be a very mild disease," Quinslick said. "We found this spring it's not as serious as feared."

As for fears that Iowa is preparing detention centers for rounding up the people who refuse swine flu shots, Quinslick was quick to dismiss the idea.

"Iowa has no relocation facility currently," she said. "If we can't quarantine a person in their home, we usually use a hotel room. There's not a facility, no gymnasium or anything like that set up.

"And I've never been in on any discussion of forcing people to be vaccinated," she added. "If there's a highly contagious outbreak and a person refuses vaccination, that's fine, they don't need to be vaccinated, but they may need to stay home until we're certain the danger has passed."

Cops jump on swine-flu power: Shots heard 'round the world

Pandemic bill allows health authorities to enter homes, detain without warrant

Cops jump on swine-flu power: Shots heard 'round the world

A "pandemic response bill" currently making its way through the Massachusetts state legislature would allow authorities to forcefully quarantine citizens in the event of a health emergency, compel health providers to vaccinate citizens, authorize forceful entry into private dwellings and destruction of citizen property and impose fines on citizens for noncompliance.

If citizens refuse to comply with isolation or quarantine orders in the event of a health emergency, they may be imprisoned for up to 30 days and fined $1,000 per day that the violation continues.

Massachusetts' pandemic response bill

"Pandemic Response Bill" 2028 was passed by the Massachusetts state Senate on April 28 and is now awaiting approval in the House.

As stated in the bill, upon declaration by the governor that an emergency exists that is considered detrimental to public health or upon declaration of a state of emergency, a local public health authority, with approval of the commissioner, may exercise the following authorities (emphasis added):

to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises;

to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility, and to allow the reopening of the building or facility when the danger has ended;

to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated, or to destroy any material;

to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons;

to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority;

to control ingress to and egress from any stricken or threatened public area, and the movement of persons and materials within the area;

to adopt and enforce measures to provide for the safe disposal of infectious waste and human remains, provided that religious, cultural, family, and individual beliefs of the deceased person shall be followed to the extent possible when disposing of human remains, whenever that may be done without endangering the public health;

to procure, take immediate possession from any source, store, or distribute any anti-toxins, serums, vaccines, immunizing agents, antibiotics, and other pharmaceutical agents or medical supplies located within the commonwealth as may be necessary to respond to the emergency;

to require in-state health care providers to assist in the performance of vaccination, treatment, examination, or testing of any individual as a condition of licensure, authorization, or the ability to continue to function as a health care provider in the commonwealth;

to waive the commonwealth's licensing requirements for health care professionals with a valid license from another state in the United States or whose professional training would otherwise qualify them for an appropriate professional license in the commonwealth;

to allow for the dispensing of controlled substance by appropriate personnel consistent with federal statutes as necessary for the prevention or treatment of illness;

to authorize the chief medical examiner to appoint and prescribe the duties of such emergency assistant medical examiners as may be required for the proper performance of the duties of office;

to collect specimens and perform tests on any animal, living or deceased;

to exercise authority under sections 95 and 96 of chapter 111;

to care for any emerging mental health or crisis counseling needs that individuals may exhibit, with the consent of the individuals

State and local agencies responding to the public health emergency would be required to exercise their powers over transportation routes, communication devices, carriers, public utilities, fuels, food, clothing and shelter, according to the legislation.

For the rest of this article you can go HERE

Wild Thing's comment........

God help us. This administration is totally out of control.

From The Heritage Foundation

The Massachusetts bill is based on a document titled The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act was initially written by a lawyer who assisted in drafting this proposal was also very involved in Hillary Clinton's health care task force. Thirty eight states have passed a total of 66 bills or resolutions that include provisions from or closely related to the Act. The extent to which the Act's provisions are incorporated into each state's laws varies. The status of these bills by state can be seen at www.publichealthlaw.net

Hillarycare and Obamacare all in one.

Unrelenting and increasing pressure is working with the Tea Party Express and the Townhall meetings. Obama and his gang will try all they can to put this bill through, but we still have a chance to stop it. Our side is growing in numbers and not only Republicans and we conservatives but also democrats are joining in as we have seen.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

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Illinois Democrat Rep. Jan Schakowsky Gets Booed Saying Murderer Ted Kennedy's Name

Sen. Ted Kennedy's name being booed when it was invoked by Illinois Democrat Rep. Jan Schakowsky's Town Hall Meeting yesterday as a reason to pass ObamaCare. The only bad thing is they sure applauded her a lot....sheesh. The audience must have been mostly Obama brain dead idiots. The best part is right at the start of the video where she gets booed. heh heh

Wild Thing's comment.......

LMAO good one Patriots! I would BOO too.

Rep. Jan Schakowsky needs to learn we are in a war for our country, we are taking it back and we will NOT be taking prisoners. No more PC, no more tolerating the left's BS. NO socialized medicine, NONE no matter what they call it.

Posted by Wild Thing at 07:47 AM

Thousands Greet Tea Party Express in Flagstaff ...The Revolution is Brewing!!

A Democrat sheriff with 32 years in office, a Republican state treasurer and plain ole citizens spoke to over 1,000 people (in a town of just over 50,000) .

The Tea Party Express moves on through New Mexico, Texas, Missouri, Illinois and works its way through the rust belt, NorthEast and eventually winds up September 12 in Washington

Thousands Come Aboard 'Second American Revolution'

FOX News

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: Hop on! But only if you're fightin' mad about health care, taxes, and you think our government is sticking its nose too far into your business! It is the Tea Party Express. Protesters are heading across country, hitting 35 cities in 16 days to land in D.C. and give their politicians an earful.

FOX News's Griff Jenkins was with them in Nevada this weekend.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're stepping on the Constitution. They're stepping on all our civil liberties. We're just fighting back now. It's growing. The movement is growing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: America is not going the way America should be going. We should be going straight to the Founding Fathers. And Christianity as our -- as our base.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want my country back. You know, I don't mind going to work, but I'm not going to be working to support somebody else. You know, enough of this nonsense.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm here to tell the government we need to go back to the Constitution. We need to go back to free market principles.

VAN SUSTEREN: Griff followed them and now joins us in Flagstaff, Arizona -- Griff.

GRIFF JENKINS, FOX NEWS: Greta, welcome to Flagstaff, Arizona! Just a few thousand people showed up here tonight and wanted to have their voices heard! As you can see, they're upset. As you mentioned, they're upset with health care. They're upset with the intrusiveness of the government. They're upset with the bail-outs. They're upset with the czars.

Greta, this is an important story! As you played (ph) in that package, we were in Elko (ph), we were in Winnemaka (ph), we were in Ely (ph), Nevada. Now we're in Flagstaff.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: USA! USA! USA!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: USA! USA! USA!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: USA! USA! USA!

JENKINS: They're chanting "USA!" We saw more of the same thing today in Las Vegas.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we have awakened the sleeping giant. For a long time, people were either numb to it or oblivious to it. And when the final -- after the stimulus bill and all the other things, when the health care finally came home and people began to began to read what was going on in that thousand-page document, there was a lot of alarm. And I think that has rang through this community very strongly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well (INAUDIBLE) just want to know one question. Why did you have the health care debate over the phone and not in person? Are you afraid of the people and what the people really have to say?

JENKINS: What's the message? What do you want the politicians in Washington, President Obama to know?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let the American people do what they do best, make this country great. Leave us alone. Protect this country's freedom, and get back to the Constitution.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take back America!

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VAN SUSTEREN: Greta, here in Flagstaff, they are small business owners, they're miners, they're farmers. They (INAUDIBLE) Can I ask you a question? Do you feel like Washington's listening to you?

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

JENKINS: That is the story. Now, Greta, an important thing (ph) you and I discussed earlier. We got an e-mail to "On the Record" from a gentleman named David in Elko, part of that package we saw earlier, beautiful place, gold mining country. He said he's tired of being called, quote, "hicks" as people portray (ph) it. So all we're doing here -- we're trying let these folks let their voices be heard. Two buses rolled in here on the Tea Party Express. You've see it. We've shown it since Friday. We're going to continue going to New Mexico tomorrow, to Albuquerque, to Las Cruces. It's going all the way! And I've talked to a handful of people going all the way to Washington, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: You know, Griff, I told (ph) you that e-mail on Gretawire.com, but what you can't see there but I'm going to show the views, is I got a picture e-mailed to me just a short time ago from someone named -- a woman named Denise Patterson (ph), and it is a picture of you with Denise Patterson. She sent me the picture. And so the viewers -- they can see it right now. There's Griff and Denise Patterson in Las Vegas. So you are now on TV, Griff, in a picture. You're -- you know, you're a big celebrity now on the -- on the -- on the computer.

Anyway, Griff, how about any counter-protests?

JENKINS: You know, we saw a couple of people across the street showed up with a couple of signs that said, you know, We want a public option, honk if you want a public option. They're just across the street. I'm not sure if they're still there. But this is -- "Kill the bill," they're saying. This is a very...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kill the bill! Kill the bill!

JENKINS: ... peaceful crowd...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kill the bill! Kill the bill!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kill the bill! Kill the bill!

JENKINS: ... and I think if there were people with opposite opinions, they would be received here, as well. We haven't seen any violence. We haven't seen any shouting. And Greta, I appreciate you saying a silly thing there, that I'm a star. But let me tell you who the star is. It's every one of these people. It's the America that Washington forgot about. It's the America that Washington doesn't want to hear from. And apparently, these folks want them to know they better start listening!

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Griff. Well, we'll check in with you...

JENKINS: This gentlemen, Greta, from Wisconsin. A fellow badger. What's your name?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My name is Robert, and I just want to say, Greta, we graduated from the same school. I love you, watch you every night. But we have something really important that we're facing right now. Congress does not pay Social Security. We all have to. They're not going to live by this bill! They're going to make us do it! You know what? Go green, recycle Congress! How about a hand for Greta!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

JENKINS: (INAUDIBLE) out here!

VAN SUSTEREN: Tell them thank you, Griff, and tell them I said Go, Badgers! Griff, thank you, and we'll catch up with you tomorrow night on this journey of yours. Thank you, Griff.

Steve Moore, senior economics writer for The Wall Street Journal, joins us. You know...

STEPHEN MOORE, WALL STREET JOURNAL, "THE END OF PROSPERITY" CO- AUTHOR: What are -- what are badger fans doing out in Tucson, Arizona? I guess...

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: ... it may be snowing already in Wisconsin. Wow! I mean, it's amazing! I mean -- I mean, obviously, these collect a lot of enthusiastic people, but it certainly -- it doesn't look like that sort of Astroturf. I'm getting -- I'm getting...

MOORE: It sure isn't!

VAN SUSTEREN: ... tons of e-mails.

MOORE: This is like a second American revolution! I mean, you have people all over the country who are attending these. They are -- they are a cross-section of Americans. A lot of them are independents. When I've been to these tea parties and town hall meetings, a lot of times, it's people who've never been politically active before. It's everyone from housewives...

VAN SUSTEREN: Yes, they're not wearing tie-dyed T-shirts!

(LAUGHTER)

MOORE: Exactly!

VAN SUSTEREN: I mean, the last time...

MOORE: You know, I wanted to say something about the -- you know, you're showing all of these signs. It's interesting. There was a -- there was a town hall meeting out in northern Virginia, where I live, and it was interesting. The people were protesting against the health care bill. They all had handmade signs that -- you know, like the ones that you see on the screen right now. The people who...

(LAUGHTER)

MOORE: The people who -- who were in favor of the plan, they were -- they had been handed signs by the unions that said things like, "Health care now!" So these are great Americans, though! It's fantastic! These are patriots! They're people who -- who don't want the government to be telling -- dictating how much money they give for bail-outs and -- and they're mad about the deficits, and they're mad about this health care plan, so it's great to see people so active.

VAN SUSTEREN: You know, it's -- I mean, I cannot get off the fact that it's just that these do not look -- not that there's such a thing as your typical protester...

MOORE: Right.

VAN SUSTEREN: ... but I think probably there is a little bit of your typical protester.

MOORE: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: And you know, you -- I mean, I have such a fixed idea. It's not usually someone who tends to be...

MOORE: You know...

VAN SUSTEREN: ... a little bit older and...

MOORE: There's a lot of truth to that. And you know, I think one of the reasons that this has thrown the Obama administration off their game a little bit is I think a lot of liberals think, you know, they all -- people who protest are liberals. And these are people who are (INAUDIBLE) very much like people who protested against the Vietnam war in the 1960s and so on. But that's why I said a lot of these people have never really protested before. They've never been that politically active. I think a lot of them, by the way, are the types of Ross Perot voters that we saw in -- in 1992.

VAN SUSTEREN: But you know, you think of protests as, you know, Don't send me to war. Don't send me to Vietnam.

MOORE: Right.

VAN SUSTEREN: Vietnam is over (ph), or Don't send me to Iraq, or something. It's usually -- it's -- I mean, it's oftentimes -- not always, but associated with war. This is really an economic protest. And it also...

MOORE: Yes, but don't forget...

VAN SUSTEREN: And also telling the government, you know, basically...

MOORE: Right.

VAN SUSTEREN: ... Don't tread on me.

MOORE: Right. But remember, why do they call these "tea parties"? These -- these are basically named after the Boston tea party. I mean, let's face it. America was founded on the premise of a tax revolt, a revolt against out-of-control government. That's why I say this is like a second American revolution, where people are just -- they feel like their government is out of control, that Congress is not listening to them. I love that idea of "Recycle Congress" because -- and by the way, I think these people will be heard from in November of 2012.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I think, you know, when they get to D.C. on September 12 -- I mean, I don't know what the number's going to be...

MOORE: That's going to be huge!

VAN SUSTEREN: ... but you know, it could -- I mean, if there's a huge number, it's not going to be...

MOORE: Right.

VAN SUSTEREN: ... without an impact.

MOORE: There's an event in West Virginia on Labor Day. They're expecting 100,000 people to show up at...

VAN SUSTEREN: That many?

MOORE: Yes. So this is...

VAN SUSTEREN: Man, that's extraordinary!

MOORE: ... this is huge! I mean, that's like -- you couldn't fit all 100,000 people in Michigan Stadium! These are huge, huge events!

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think -- do you think anyone's listening? I mean, in Congress?

MOORE: You know, here's the point. I think that the -- that the -- that the Obama people made a big mistake when they insulted people and they said these are people who have swastikas or this is un-American. This is not un-American! This is great! This is Americana!

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, there's a guy who was -- who wrote me an e-mail, and he was offended because he went to it and had genuine interest in -- in -- you know, in his philosophy, his political philosophy, and he was called a hick, you know, in some media outlet. And he said, I'm not a hick.

MOORE: Yes. Right.

VAN SUSTEREN: Just because I disagree with you, I'm a hick?

MOORE: Right.

VAN SUSTEREN: (INAUDIBLE) something else.

MOORE: I think this is only -- the attacks against -- when they called these people, you know, mobsters and things like that, I think that's only turned out more people. People are insulted by the fact that Washington and politicians snubbed (SIC) their nose at them.

VAN SUSTEREN: People were -- people were sending me e-mails going to Whole Foods because they were so offended that...

MOORE: Right.

VAN SUSTEREN: ... that the CEO happened to have a different idea on how to reform health care and (INAUDIBLE) huge backlash.

MOORE: But here's -- here's the bottom line here. These people are having a huge impact. I mean, they are truly -- this is truly grass roots politics at its very best. This is what America's all about. These folks, these hundreds of thousands of people who are turning out, please keep -- keep shouting. You are being heard in Washington, and they fear you in Washington!

Wild Thing's comment.......

Roll on, Tea Party Express! You are the true spirit of America.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:40 AM | Comments (9)

September 01, 2009

Las Vegas, NV. Tea Party Express Toward the March on Washington D.C

Awsome turn out estimated about 1000 patriots!!

Las Vegas Review Journal

Hundreds of protesters waved signs and railed against big government today in what organizers billed as part of a cross-country tour.

The Tea Party Express Tour stopped in Las Vegas near Las Vegas Boulevard and Sunset Road and will eventually make its way to Washington, D.C. Organizers estimated 700 to 900 people attended.

The protesters rallied against what they see as big government — health care, deficit spending and bailouts.

Protester Teri Willis said she was there "because I love my country."

She said her son is a Marine and she does not trust Obama to keep him safe.

Las Vegas Review Journal newspaper is reporting that Senator Harry Reid launched a broadside against the newspaper, telling advertising director Bob Brown: “I hope you go out of business.”

At a time when Nevada is suffering an unemployment rate of over 12%, Harry Reid has revealed he hopes hundreds more will become unemployed at the Las Vegas newspaper.

Reid’s verbal attack against Nevada’s largest newspaper comes at the same time he has criticized tea party supporters, deriding them as “evil-mongers.”

Tea Party Express Vice Chairman, Mark Williams, issued the following statement about Reid’s recent verbal outbursts:

“Harry Reid seems to have a big problem with people exercising their free speech rights, and his arrogance towards others is catching up with him.

The tour's next stop is Flagstaff, Ariz.

Wild Thing's comment.......

That is an awesome turn out for Vegas. The summer heat there is way over 100 and to stand in a parking lot whew even hotter when you do that. God bless them all for being there and speaking out and their fantastic signs. I love to see the signs. There is something so much more special about homemade signs like we have been seeing.

I read that dems are trying to get their “protestors” to make their own signs but are having trouble
none of them know how to spell and besides they say they don’t get paid for making signs. LOL

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:47 AM | Comments (10)

August 31, 2009

Tea Party Express Toward the March on Washington D.C. September 12th ~ Rebellion is brewing!!

The Tea Party Express caravan .......Thirty-five cities, thirty-five tea parties in sixteen days!!

On Friday, (August 28 ) the Tea Party Express group set off on a bus tour starting in Sacramento, California, and winding down in Washington D.C. on September 12.

Revolution Brewing - August 28 Sacramento Tea Party

This video from Sacramento is so awesome, the photography is exceptional as well. Plus Lloyd Marcus is there singing which is also cool.

To learn more about singer Lloyd Marcus, visit http://www.lloydmarcus.com

For more information on tea parties, visit http://www.teapartyexpress.org

On their way to Washington, DC, the Tea Party Express makes a stop in Reno.

RENO, Nevada Stop # 2 on the Tea Party Express

Tea Party Express on Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren show with a live report from Griff Jenkins from Reno/Sparks

Be sure to check the tour schedule and join us when we get to a city near you: TeaPartyExpress.org!!

Wild Thing's comment.......

I would love to see it make history as the biggest march in Washington!!

God bless America and our Troops!!

Posted by Wild Thing at 07:55 AM | Comments (6)

Tucson Tea Party Town Hall Aug. 28 Protester

This is footage of the left-winger who disrupted the Town Hall at Rincon High School

Here the same Obama supporter seen in the first video take his right elbow and elbows one of the health care protesters in the ear / face area. Obama must be proud of his supporter for doing this since he told his people to behave this way.

Please also note that Obama is the only one who has called for violence. Obama now sounds more like a gang member than even a community organizer. And this is the “leader” who represents the USA to foreign powers.

Obama: Obama: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun" June 14,2008
Obama to His Followers: "Argue With Neighbors, Get In Their Face" ...September 18, 2008
Obama on ACORN Mobs: "I don't want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I'm angry!" March 20, 2009

Obama White House snitch blog: White House blog ....Facts Are Stubborn Things....If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Obama To His Mercenary Army: “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard” August 6, 2009

Obama to Health Care opponents Shut UP! : About opponents of his outlandishly reckless agenda, he said that he doesn't "want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking;” he wants "them just to get out of the way so [Democrats] can clean up the mess." He went on, "I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking." .....August 6, 2009
YouTube VIDEO of this speech Obama made.

Dr. Steve Knope continues and gives an awesome speech.

Dr. Steve Knope, an Internist and sports medicine expert, speaks out about the dangers and absurdities of Obamacare at the Tucson Tea Party

Wild Thing's comment.......

Obama does not get that no matter how many thugs he sends to Townhall meetings it is only going to make us more determined.

The harder Obama pushes his socialized medicine the more people find out how bad it is, the more people wake up.

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:49 AM

Obama's Organizing For America Zombies Hold Rally at IBEW Union Hall Meet Up With True Patriots

St. Louis Missouri. The Obama's Organizing for America Group helps us Understand the Difference between "Grass Roots" and "Astro Turf".

H/T Gateway Pundit

Organizing For America held a rally in support of Obama's Health Control Bill tonight at the IBEW Hall ( UNION Hall) in St. Louis. This is part of a bus tour organized by OFA ( Obama's Organizing For America) , which will hit 12 major cities/states, one of which was St. Louis.

Then they meet up with the American loving citizens!

Wild Thing's comment.......

I LOVE how our side was there and don't you just love how those on our side, America's side have much better signs too. We are not robots like the left. I want to know if our tax dollars are paying for that stupid bus of Obama's to haul his zombies around!!!!

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:45 AM | Comments (10)

Liar Rep.Carol Shea-Porter (D-NH) Holds Townhall Meeting

Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (D-NH) held a town hall yesterday in Portsmouth, NH.
She told her "teabagger" constituents that they can't believe everything they hear and that there are no communists in Washington DC.

1st District Congresswoman CarolShea Porter is asked a question by a constituent regarding the corruption and thievery in Washington, and how she's going to fix it. The questioner noted that the country was taking a turn towards socialism and communism, and asked what Shea Porter was going to do to protect our liberties. A discussion about czars, ensued, where Carol denied there were 35 CZAR's , yet refused to tell the ausience how many there are. She also disagreed that we're going in that direction.

Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (D-NH) finally faces her constituents on at a health care town hall on August 29, 2009. The event was held in a small, but heavily guarded conference room at the Norris Cotton Federal Building in Manchester, NH. Many of her constituents were turned away from the event due to the space limitations of the venue. Shea-Porter has spent the majority of the congressional recess attending fundraisers and closed door events with liberal bloggers and special interest groups.

Source

In four short years Carol Shea-Porter has evolved from a rabble-rousing, town hall disrupting anti-war activist who once had to be forcibly removed from a President George Bush event in Portsmouth to a Member of Congress who instructed armed security guards to remove a frustrated voter from her own town hall event in Manchester on Saturday.

In the appended video, Shea-Porter can be seen instructing security to remove a man for standing to ask a question without a ticket. Shea-Porter previously held a lottery to determine who could ask questions. She can also be heard taunting the man on his way out by saying, “I do hope the movie theater can be a little quieter for you.”

NowHampshire.com has learned that the gentlemen Shea-Porter removed, Carl Tomanelli from Londonderry, is a retired New York City patrolman.

In recent weeks, Shea-Porter has become, in the words of one Democratic operative who asked to remain anonymous, “unhinged.”

This week she derisively referred to opponents of health reform as “tea-baggers” in front of a crowd of liberal activists. She also accused former Attorney General Kelly Ayotte of colluding with the so-called “tea-baggers” after she bumped into her randomly at a hotel bathroom in Portsmouth.

During a radio program last week, Shea-Porter waved off a hostile question about the constitutionality of the health reform bill she supports because, “The Constitution did not cover everything.” Her response to the caller was grossly inapt. She compared Congress’ efforts to establish a so-called government option for health coverage to the City of Manchester establishing a police force.

“The irony is, of course, that Shea-Porter used to be a ‘tea-bagger’ on the left,” writes Nashua Telegraph columnist Kevin Landrigan. “She stalked then-congressman Jeb Bradley at town hall-style meetings the 1st District Republican incumbent held throughout his district.”

Four years ago Carol Shea-Porter protested at the State House alongside people dressed as Nazis while accusing the federal government of trying “to brand us like sheep.” On Saturday, she disparagingly referred to people who do not trust the same federal government to run our health care system as “these people.”

“We remember when, Carol, do you,” asks Landrigan.

Wild Thing's comment.....

WOW what a liar she is. Any person can go unline or even at a local library and find out we have communist members in our Congress and many other levels of government.

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:40 AM | Comments (4)

August 30, 2009

Part Two of "It ain't America no more, OK?" Officer Wesley Cheeks

The officer was asked what law had been broken. He did not answer that ever.

He said that he could charge the protestor with whatever he want to charge. THE OFFICER CLAIMED TO MAKE THE LAW!!!!

A town hall protester (in Reston, VA) is holding a sign with the obama/joker face on it. A police officer takes the sign and places it face down on the pavement. The protester asks him why he can't have the sign when so many other people have signs. The officer says because it has a picture on it and if he picks the sign back up he'll be charged with trespassing. At that point, the protester is like “Trespassing?” because it is a town hall meeting and he's outside the school as others are.

The protester says (as the officer walks away) ‘ this is America, this used to be America’ - the officer says ‘it ain't no more’.

This is my email to the Fairfax County Police:

As an American and a law abiding citizen I am shocked and disgusted at the behavior of Officer Wesley Cheeks, Jr.
I am sure you know about the various Townhall meetings around our country where citizens from both parties are speaking out their concerns about the Health Care bill. At the Townhall meeting that Rep. Moran gave on August 25th your officer Wesley Cheeks, Jr. imo was out of line. He so much as said he wrote the laws ( " I can charge you with whatever I want to charge you with"...exact quote ) , he told a protester that he could not take a sign he had into the Townhall area only because it had a photo on it. But the final remark the Officer made was the most concerning of all.

When Officer Cheeks was told by the protester ""This used to be America!" his response was: "It ain't no more, OK?"

I would appreciate knowing if this last statement is the stance of the Fairfax County Police or just this one police officer. Also this officer violated the protesters first amendment rights in our Constitution, when he proceeded in stopping him from carrying his sign to join the others that also had signs.

Thank you for your time in this matter and a response would be very much appreciated.

Chrissie

The response I got from the Fairfax County Police:

Wesley Cheeks is NOT a Fairfax County police officer, he is a security officer employed by the Fairfax County Public Schools. You may go to http://www.fcps.edu to contact the School's Department of Communication and Community Outreach concerning this matter. They may also be reached by phone at 571-423-1200.

Please accept my apologies for the impersonal reply; however I am trying to give the several hundred respondents the courtesy of a timely answer.

Lieutenant Thomas J. Rogers Asst Commander, Reston District Station Main: 703-478-0904 Direct: 703-478-0792 thomas.rogers@fairfaxcounty.gov

Sources of contact and information:

Whan called Fairfax County Police, Reston District 703-478-0904 hit 0 for Operator. Operator confirms there is no Officer Wesley Cheeks, Jr.

Fairfax County Public Schools Security Services and they confirmed he works for them !!!!

Fairfax County Public Schools Safety And Security

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/safety-security/

Link to pages with information about director of security - patrol service

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/safety-security/

Safety & Security

Here is his boss
Fred Ellis, Director

Fred.Ellis@fcps.edu

Vicki Fields, Administrative Assistant
Vicki.Fields@fcps.edu

Johnnie Forte, Jr. Support Center 6800B Industrial Road Springfield, Virginia 22151 703-658-3763

24-Hour Dispatch/Call Center 703-764-2400
Main Office 703-658-3760

Jim McLain, Security Coordinator
Jim.McLain@fcps.edu
703-658-3769

Lt. Daniel Townsend, Fairfax County Police/School Liaison Commander
Daniel.Townsend@fcps.edu
703-658-3707

Here are the official duties of a security officer for Fairfax County Public Schools:

Taken from their website......

Definition: Patrols assigned schools; performs security inspections; investigates and responds to security incidents; assists with the application of a school security plan; and performs related duties as required or assigned.

Typical Tasks (illustrative only): Operates a School Board motor vehicle and patrols assigned schools to detect and deter fire, theft, vandalism and other unauthorized activities and conditions which could endanger students, personnel, and property of Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS); performs security inspections of schools, which may include manual checks of all exterior doors and windows; assists school administrators with applying the school security plan and with other security-related matters; promptly reports any suspicious activities or person(s) found to appropriate school officials, and police, if appropriate; promptly reports to the security operations center and breach insecurity or suspicious activities found, ensures that all persons found on FCPS property after school or normal working hours have the proper authorization; takes appropriate actions to remove unauthorized persons from school premises, cooperates with, and provides assistance to, fire and police department personnel responding to alarms; completes and submits all required reports and forms on a timely basis; assists custodians and other staff with SAFAS problems; may perform minor maintenance repairs after hours; provides backup to the security system monitors and dispatches mobile units, as needed, or appropriate; and must conform to all requirements pursuant to the Code of Virginia and the Virginia Administrative Code and required to maintain current certification.

Supervision Received/Given: Receives limited supervision from a supervisor or coordinator. May provide guidance and assistance to full-, part-time, and/or hourly employees, as required.

Education/Experience/Skills: Any combination of education and experience equivalent to graduation from high school, plus three years of progressively more responsible experience in a security-related field. Some knowledge of standard security procedures and the regulations and laws relating to grounds and building intrusion and trespassing; ability to exercise good judgment under stressful and potentially dangerous conditions; ability to communicate effectively, both orally and in writing; and good interpersonal skills, including ability to interact in a positive, professional manner with students, staff, and member of the public. Possession of an appropriate, valid motor vehicle operator's license. Ability to successfully complete compulsory certification training approved by the Virginia Center for School Safety within sixty days of hire. Must successfully complete compulsory recertification training annually. Applicants must be 21 years old at time of appointment.

Evidently, Mr. Cheeks needs a refresher course on a few of his job duties! ~ Wild Thing

And a friend and reader of Theodore's World also did some research and got this as well. Thank you Dave H.

"Did some research and Emailing today. What I found was that the "Officer" is really a Security Guard, employes by Fairfax County Public Schools."

Thanks for your message Representative Moran rented our High School via FCPS community use process to hold a constituents meeting in the northern Virginia area. South Lakes has a decent sized gymnasium and plenty of parking so we are occasionally are utilized by the community for events which draw big crowds. A regional triathlon and a giant Cancer Walk for Life rent our facility each year for example. Officer Cheeks works for Fairfax County Schools, he is not an employee of South Lakes High School. I recommend you direct your information to FCPS central. Thanks again,

"Butler, Bruce A" bbutler@fcps.edu
Principal
South Lakes High School

Wild Thing's comment.........

OK so he is not a real live police man nor is he a rent a cop. Fairfax schools have a separate security force whose authority is limited to school grounds. Regular police can also do enforcement on school property if needed.

And apparently he does have the authority to arrest anyone within his geographical jurisdiction and he was also carrying a gun.

Cheeks had his own personal agenda. His was a purely racist action. He should be fired, by the School superintendent and the school board are about as liberal as they come. Expect Wesley Cheeks to get an award, raise, and promotion.

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:55 AM | Comments (13)

August 29, 2009

Officer Does Not Like anti-Obama Poster:"It ain't [America] no more, OK?"

During the Jim Moran Townhall, protesters were outside gathering to go in. A citizen reporter was being harassed by a local Police officer about his Obamacare sign.

The exchange between the Officer and the citizen was about the sign, the officer asked him to take it down or he would be arrested. During the exchange, the citizen said "This is America!", in which the officer replied "It ain't anymore" Quite revealing.

Notes from the person that did this video:

This video was taken on Tuesday, August 25th, 2009 at Rep. Jim Moran's (D-VA) Town Hall meeting on Obama Deathcare held at South Lakes High School in Reston, VA.

Many people were left outside when the school filled to capacity. School security officer Wesley Cheeks, Jr. did not like my anti-Obamacare poster which used one of the gone-viral "Joker" graphics.

When I said to Officer Cheeks, "This used to be America!" his response was: "It ain't no more, OK?"

This needs to be reported to this man.

http://www.firstamendmentschools.org/freedoms/faq.aspx?id=12807

Does the First Amendment apply to public schools?

Yes.

The First Amendment applies to all levels of government, including public schools. Although the courts have permitted school officials to limit the rights of students under some circumstances, the courts have also recognized that students — like all citizens — are guaranteed the rights protected by the First Amendment.

Wild Thing's comment.......

"When I said to Officer Cheeks, "This used to be America!" his response was: "It ain't no more, OK?"

With Obama in power he is right about this though it isn't the America we all know and love. Not with all the chnages Obama has been making and plans to do.

This is becoming more and more offensive as things progress. At some point, the tipping point, people will have to make a conscious choice to side either with the socialists or with freedom. There won’t be a lot of middle ground.

It’s time to take back the country.

“I can charge you with whatever I want to charge you with’
Uh... I don’t think it works like that.

CLICK ON THIS LINK and scroll down the page........you will see a lot of the protests signs from the LEFT during the GW Bush Presidency and NON of what our side has done even come close to the left's death threats for Bush andn our troops and their officers.

....Thank you JohnE PFC U.S. Army for sending this to me.

Soldier/Generator Mechanic
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Castro Loving California Democrat Rep.Diane Watson at Townhall Meeting

Cuban Ambulance

Here is audio of California Democrat Rep.Diane Watson at a Health Care Town Hall Meeting last night where she openly praised the Cuban Communist Revolution of the 1950's, and also praised the leadership of longtime Cuban Dictator Fidel Castro.

She praised the Health Care System Castro put in place, and said he is "one of the brighest leaders I have ever met."

Wild Thing's comment.......

Oink louder, you evil pig. Praising the jailer of 11 million slaves in the prison island of Cuba.

I can't believe that no one at the town hall booed or jeered her, judging from the audio. If these high profile leftists love the marxist 3rd world claptrap tyrannical countries so much let them prove it and move there! This nation has given them the ability for a great career and benevolent lives and yet they trash it. Demented and corrupted to their inner cores.

She is just like dictator Obama with her history, as her history is a little screwed up, as leftists so often do. The communists didn't come looking around for Castro to lead them after they had taken over Cuba. Castro was their leader from the get-go.

She’s also the one who wants everyone to support Obama because he “looks like” her! LMAO

This is AMERICA and we allow this woman Democrat Diane Watson to hold a government office. This is not just some stupid actor like Sean Penn mouthing off or going to visit Castro. NO this is someone that hold an office in our government! Just like the other PROGRESSIVES all communists and how on earth that ever became OK to do is beyond me. But it did and now by God they need to be voted out of office asap. Kicked out on their butts if possible. OMG this makes me so sick to my stomach.

We need to seriously clean house and I wish with all my heart we could get all these communists out of office starting with dictator Obama in the White House.

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:49 AM | Comments (10)

August 28, 2009

ABC, NBC Won't Air Ad Critical of Obama's Health Care Plan

Today, the health of millions of Americans is threatened by a planned government takeover of our health care system. This takeover will ration health care, limit important medicines and surgeries for seniors and end Medicare as we know it. It will add 50 million new patients — including up to 13 million illegal aliens — to an system that already doesnt have enough doctors.

ABC, NBC Won't Air Ad Critical of Obama's Health Care Plan

FOX News

The refusal by ABC and NBC to run a national ad critical of President Obama's health care reform plan is raising questions from the group behind the spot -- particularly in light of ABC's health care special aired in prime time last June hosted at the White House.

The 33-second ad by the League of American Voters, which features a neurosurgeon who warns that a government-run health care system will lead to the rationing of procedures and medicine, began airing two weeks ago on local affiliates of ABC, NBC, FOX and CBS. On a national level, however, ABC and NBC have refused to run the spot in its present form.

"It's a powerful ad," said Bob Adams, executive director of the League of American Voters, a national nonprofit group with 15,000 members who advocate individual liberty and government accountability. "It tells the truth and it really highlights one of the biggest vulnerabilities and problems with this proposed legislation, which is it rations health care and disproportionately will decimate the quality of health care for seniors."

Adams said the advertisement is running on local network affiliates in states like Louisiana, Arkansas, Maine and Pennsylvania. But although CBS has approved the ad for national distribution and talks are ongoing with FOX, NBC has questioned some of the ad's facts while ABC has labeled it "partisan."

"The ABC Television Network has a long-standing policy that we do not sell time for advertising that presents a partisan position on a controversial public issue," spokeswoman Susan Sewell said in a written statement. "Just to be clear, this is a policy for the entire network, not just ABC News."

Dick Morris, a FOX News political analyst and the League of American Voters' chief strategist, conceptualized the advertisement and said its purpose was to "refocus" the debate on health care reform.

"I feel the whole debate on health care reform needed to be refocused on the issue of Medicare," he told FOXNews.com. "Most of the debate had been on issues of socialized medicine and cost. I felt that the impact of the legislation in cutting the Medicare program and enforcing rationing needed to be addressed."

Morris, a onetime advisor to former President Bill Clinton, said he was particularly troubled by ABC's decision not to air the spot.

"It's the ultimate act of chutzpah because ABC is the network that turned itself over completely to Obama for a daylong propaganda fest about health care reform," he said. "For them to be pious and say they will not accept advertising on health care shuts their viewers out from any possible understanding of both sides of this issue."

Wild Thing's comment.......

LOL another reason why everyone watched FOX. And the good thing is too, that more people will take notice now with the story of suppression getting out than would have been affected by a couple 30 second airings of an ad on a dying network.

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:47 AM | Comments (8)

Obama's Health Rationer-in-Chief Ezekiel Emanuel ( aka Dr. Mengele)

Obama's Health Rationer-in-Chief

White House health-care adviser Ezekiel Emanuel blames the Hippocratic Oath for the 'overuse' of medical care.

The Wall Street Journal

By BETSY MCCAUGHEY

Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, health adviser to President Barack Obama, is under scrutiny. As a bioethicist, he has written extensively about who should get medical care, who should decide, and whose life is worth saving. Dr. Emanuel is part of a school of thought that redefines a physician’s duty, insisting that it includes working for the greater good of society instead of focusing only on a patient’s needs. Many physicians find that view dangerous, and most Americans are likely to agree.

The health bills being pushed through Congress put important decisions in the hands of presidential appointees like Dr. Emanuel. They will decide what insurance plans cover, how much leeway your doctor will have, and what seniors get under Medicare. Dr. Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of the Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. He clearly will play a role guiding the White House's health initiative.

Dr. Emanuel says that health reform will not be pain free, and that the usual recommendations for cutting medical spending (often urged by the president) are mere window dressing.

As he wrote in the Feb. 27, 2008, issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA): "Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality of care are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change."

True reform, he argues, must include redefining doctors' ethical obligations.

In the June 18, 2008, issue of JAMA, Dr. Emanuel blames the Hippocratic Oath for the "overuse" of medical care: "Medical school education and post graduate education emphasize thoroughness," he writes. "This culture is further reinforced by a unique understanding of professional obligations, specifically the Hippocratic Oath's admonition to 'use my power to help the sick to the best of my ability and judgment' as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of cost or effect on others."

In numerous writings, Dr. Emanuel chastises physicians for thinking only about their own patient's needs. He describes it as an intractable problem: "Patients were to receive whatever services they needed, regardless of its cost. Reasoning based on cost has been strenuously resisted; it violated the Hippocratic Oath, was associated with rationing, and derided as putting a price on life. . . . Indeed, many physicians were willing to lie to get patients what they needed from insurance companies that were trying to hold down costs." (JAMA, May 16, 2007).

Of course, patients hope their doctors will have that single-minded devotion. But Dr. Emanuel believes doctors should serve two masters, the patient and society, and that medical students should be trained "to provide socially sustainable, cost-effective care."

One sign of progress he sees: "the progression in end-of-life care mentality from 'do everything' to more palliative care shows that change in physician norms and practices is possible." (JAMA, June 18, 2008).

"In the next decade every country will face very hard choices about how to allocate scarce medical resources. There is no consensus about what substantive principles should be used to establish priorities for allocations," he wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine, Sept. 19, 2002. Yet Dr. Emanuel writes at length about who should set the rules, who should get care, and who should be at the back of the line.

"You can't avoid these questions," Dr. Emanuel said in an Aug. 16 Washington Post interview. "We had a big controversy in the United States when there was a limited number of dialysis machines. In Seattle, they appointed what they called a 'God committee' to choose who should get it, and that committee was eventually abandoned. Society ended up paying the whole bill for dialysis instead of having people make those decisions."

Dr. Emanuel argues that to make such decisions, the focus cannot be only on the worth of the individual. He proposes adding the communitarian perspective to ensure that medical resources will be allocated in a way that keeps society going:

"Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity—those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations—are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Covering services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic, and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia." (Hastings Center Report, November-December, 1996)

In the Lancet, Jan. 31, 2009, Dr. Emanuel and co-authors presented a "complete lives system" for the allocation of very scarce resources, such as kidneys, vaccines, dialysis machines, intensive care beds, and others. "One maximizing strategy involves saving the most individual lives, and it has motivated policies on allocation of influenza vaccines and responses to bioterrorism. . . . Other things being equal, we should always save five lives rather than one.

"However, other things are rarely equal—whether to save one 20-year-old, who might live another 60 years, if saved, or three 70-year-olds, who could only live for another 10 years each—is unclear." In fact, Dr. Emanuel makes a clear choice: "When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get changes that are attenuated.

Dr. Emanuel concedes that his plan appears to discriminate against older people, but he explains: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination. . . . Treating 65 year olds differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be ageist; treating them differently because they have already had more life-years is not."

The youngest are also put at the back of the line: "Adolescents have received substantial education and parental care, investments that will be wasted without a complete life. Infants, by contrast, have not yet received these investments. . . . As the legal philosopher Ronald Dworkin argues, 'It is terrible when an infant dies, but worse, most people think, when a three-year-old dies and worse still when an adolescent does,' this argument is supported by empirical surveys." (thelancet.com, Jan. 31, 2009).

To reduce health-insurance costs, Dr. Emanuel argues that insurance companies should pay for new treatments only when the evidence demonstrates that the drug will work for most patients. He says the "major contributor" to rapid increases in health spending is "the constant introduction of new medical technologies, including new drugs, devices, and procedures. . . . With very few exceptions, both public and private insurers in the United States cover and pay for any beneficial new technology without considering its cost. . . ." He writes that one drug "used to treat metastatic colon cancer, extends medial survival for an additional two to five months, at a cost of approximately $50,000 for an average course of therapy." (JAMA, June 13, 2007).

Medians, of course, obscure the individual cases where the drug significantly extended or saved a life. Dr. Emanuel says the United States should erect a decision-making body similar to the United Kingdom's rationing body—the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE)—to slow the adoption of new medications and set limits on how much will be paid to lengthen a life.

Dr. Emanuel's assessment of American medical care is summed up in a Nov. 23, 2008, Washington Post op-ed he co-authored: "The United States is No. 1 in only one sense: the amount we shell out for health care. We have the most expensive system in the world per capita, but we lag behind many developed nations on virtually every health statistic you can name."

This is untrue, though sadly it's parroted at town-hall meetings across the country. Moreover, it's an odd factual error coming from an oncologist. According to an August 2009 report from the National Bureau of Economic Research, patients diagnosed with cancer in the U.S. have a better chance of surviving the disease than anywhere else. The World Health Organization also rates the U.S. No. 1 out of 191 countries for responsiveness to the needs and choices of the individual patient. That attention to the individual is imperiled by Dr. Emanuel's views.

Dr. Emanuel has fought for a government takeover of health care for over a decade. In 1993, he urged that President Bill Clinton impose a wage and price freeze on health care to force parties to the table. "The desire to be rid of the freeze will do much to concentrate the mind," he wrote with another author in a Feb. 8, 1993, Washington Post op-ed. Now he recommends arm-twisting Chicago style. "Every favor to a constituency should be linked to support for the health-care reform agenda," he wrote last Nov. 16 in the Health Care Watch Blog. "If the automakers want a bailout, then they and their suppliers have to agree to support and lobby for the administration's health-reform effort."

Is this what Americans want?

Wild Thing's comment........

OMG this man is straight from HELL and so is his brother Rahm and so is Barack Obama.

“The desire to be rid of the freeze will do much to concentrate the mind,” he wrote with another author in a Feb. 8, 1993, Washington Post op-ed. Now he recommends arm-twisting Chicago style. “Every favor to a constituency should be linked to support for the health-care reform agenda,” he wrote last Nov. 16 in the Health Care Watch Blog. “If the automakers want a bailout, then they and their suppliers have to agree to support and lobby for the administration’s health-reform effort.”

This is exactly what Obama and his minions have been doing with Pharma,the Insurance companies, the car companies..EVERYBODY!! The people in charge of our government now are EVIL!! There is no other way to describe it!

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:45 AM | Comments (7)

Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data - Taking Liberties

CBS

One of the problems with any proposed law that's over 1,000 pages long and constantly changing is that much deviltry can lie in the details. Take the Democrats' proposal to rewrite health care policy, better known as H.R. 3200 or by opponents as "Obamacare."

Section 431(a) of the bill says that the IRS must divulge taxpayer identity information, including the filing status, the modified adjusted gross income, the number of dependents, and "other information as is prescribed by" regulation. That information will be provided to the new Health Choices Commissioner and state health programs and used to determine who qualifies for "affordability credits."

Section 245(b)(2)(A) says the IRS must divulge tax return details -- there's no specified limit on what's available or unavailable -- to the Health Choices Commissioner. The purpose, again, is to verify "affordability credits."

Section 1801(a) says that the Social Security Administration can obtain tax return data on anyone who may be eligible for a "low-income prescription drug subsidy" but has not applied for it.

Over at the Institute for Policy Innovation (a free-market think tank and presumably no fan of Obamacare), Tom Giovanetti argues that: "How many thousands of federal employees will have access to your records? The privacy of your health records will be only as good as the most nosy, most dishonest and most malcontented federal employee.... So say good-bye to privacy from the federal government. It was fun while it lasted for 233 years."

I'm not as certain as Giovanetti that this represents privacy's Armageddon. (Though I do wonder where the usual suspects like the Electronic Privacy Information Center are. Presumably inserting limits on information that can be disclosed -- and adding strict penalties on misuse of the information kept on file about hundreds of millions of Americans -- is at least as important as fretting about Facebook's privacy policy in Canada.)

A better candidate for a future privacy crisis is the so-called stimulus bill enacted with limited debate early this year. It mandated the "utilization of an electronic health record for each person in the United States by 2014," but included only limited privacy protections.

It's true that if the legislative branch chooses to create "affordability credits," it probably makes sense to ensure they're not abused. The goal of curbing fraud runs up against the goal of preserving individual privacy.

If we're going to have such significant additional government intrusion into our health care system, we will have to draw the privacy line somewhere. Maybe the House Democrats' current bill gets it right. Maybe it doesn't. But this vignette should be reason to be skeptical of claims that a massive and complex bill must be enacted as rapidly as its backers would have you believe.

Update August 27 11 a.m: Marc Rotenberg of the Electronic Privacy Information Center says in e-mail: "We would oppose section 431(a) of the bill because it violates the intent of the Privacy Act which generally requires agencies to obtain information directly from individuals and not from other agencies." EPIC still hasn't updated their Web site to reflect this sentiment, but it's good to know that other folks have concerns too.

Wild Thing's comment........

"Over at the Institute for Policy Innovation (a free-market think tank and presumably no fan of Obamacare), Tom Giovanetti argues that: “How many thousands of federal employees will have access to your records? The privacy of your health records will be only as good as the most nosy, most dishonest and most malcontented federal employee.... So say good-bye to privacy from the federal government. It was fun while it lasted for 233 years.”

Whoa!!!!!!!!!

I think the left envisions these rationing boards making decisions based on political affiliation, the amount of taxes you pay, if a person is still working or retired and all of this I bet will have direct bearing on whether we get treatment.

This entire thing is so sickening, so against our Constiution and humanity as well.

Plus all this about our government having everything on file about us, bank accounts, medical information, so many things, this is beyond wrong too. The whole blooming thing should be trashed.

Healthcare is not the point of this obamaDEATHcare. Total control over everyone is.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at 06:40 AM | Comments (8)

Theodore's World

The PC Free Zone Gazette is American first and Conservative second. It is never anti-American!

November 21, 2009

Full List of Tax Hikes In Senate Democrat Health Bill

Senate Health Bill Debate Scheduled for TODAY; Vote on Cloture Expected at 8 PM ET

November 20, 2009

Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.): 'I'm getting tired of saving Obama's can'

November 16, 2009

Obama Will Remove Abortion Funding Ban From Health Care Bill

November 14, 2009

U.S. Rep. Peter Roskam Delivers Health Care Bill to Library

November 12, 2009

Obama and Pelosi Think It's Fair For People To Go To Jail For Not Buying Into Socialized Medicine

Desperate To Pass Socialized Medicine Obama Supporters Use the RINO Cao In New Ad

The LEFT Reacts To Joe Lieberman's Promise To Join Filibuster About Health Care Bill

November 09, 2009

Veterinarian Loans and Biofuels Part Of Healthcare Now

Dictator Obama's Lies About His Power Grab Health Care Bill

November 08, 2009

ObamaCare Passes 220-215 in the House ~ Just 5 Votes

The One Republican Vote For Socialized Medicine Was Rep. Anh (Joseph) Cao of Louisiana

November 07, 2009

Military HATER Obama Visit Ft. Hood? NO Way! Instead He Pushs his Socialized Medicine with Pelosi

Obama and Pelsoi's DESTROY America Health Care Bill

November 06, 2009

Yesterday's Rally of 20,000 Washington DC. Against the Health Care Bill of Speaker Pelosi

November 05, 2009

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) Admits Pelosi Health Care Bill Will RAISE Taxes

November 04, 2009

Rep. Michele Bachmann, Mark Levin Thursday at High Noon, East Steps of Capitol

November 03, 2009

The Price of Pelosi Bill is Now Up to $1.2 Trillion and Threatens U.S. Medical Education System

November 02, 2009

'Personhood' Movement Explodes in 32 States

November 01, 2009

Pelosi Health Care Bill Blow a Kiss At Trial Lawyers

October 31, 2009

Obama's Controlling Our Lives Government Care

Possibly Around 40 Dems Line Up Against Federal Abortion Funding in Healthcare Bill

October 30, 2009

Obama's Socialized Medicine Bill Contains Menu Requirements

Rush Limbaugh Reaction To Pelosi's LIES and Look At The TAXES In the Bill

October 29, 2009

Speaker Pelosi Denies public Access to Health Care Public Plan Announcement

Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans Formal Announcement of Obamacare Bill Today

October 27, 2009

Obama's Health Care that Is NOT Healthy for Anyone!

October 22, 2009

Congress Keeps Gold-Plated Health Care... For Themselves

October 20, 2009

Obamacare May Be Unconstitutional

October 13, 2009

Senate Committee Approves Health Overhaul Bill ( Socialized Medicine )

October 08, 2009

Obama Voters USE Their Kids See Them Sing for HusseinCare (my title) on CNN Set

Shouts, Insults Fly at Rep. Israel's Health Care Town Hall

Mark Levin on GOP Health Care Plan

October 07, 2009

The Day ObamaCare Died

October 06, 2009

The 'Kill Granny' Bill

October 02, 2009

Obama's Health Insurance Whopper! More LIES from the DICTATOR

October 01, 2009

Government-Run Health Care by Next Thursday?

Democrats and Their Plan to Ram Obamacare Through ~ Rush Limbaugh

September 30, 2009

More Kennedy LIES ~ Patrick Kennedy Warns Health-care Debate Could Turn Violent

John Stossel Video About Obama's anti-American 'Health Care' Plan

September 26, 2009

House Democrats Considering Insurance Tax

September 25, 2009

The Million Med March, Doctors to March on Washington DC October 1, 2009

September 24, 2009

Passing a Shell of A Bill: Congress’ Secret Plan to Ram Through Health Care Reform

September 21, 2009

Obama in Interview with George Stephanopolous Says "I don't care what Merriam-Webster says on Taxes"

September 19, 2009

Obama LIES in Health Care Speech Story About Delayed Treatment