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December 21, 2009
Obama & Senate Christmas Present to We-the-People: Enslavement
McConnell on the Senate floor just before 12:45a.m.
McConnell: "My message tonight is this, the impact of this vote will long outlive this one frantic snowy weekend in Washington, mark my words, this legislation will reshape our nation, and Americans has already issued their verdict: they don't want it"
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The Extraordinary Measures Needed to Kill the Bill — Updated with Vote Numbers
The corruption of using the public treasury as a check book to buy the votes of Senator Nelson and Senator Sanders — in the face not only overwhelming public opposition, but also in the face of a public that now wants Congress to do nothing on health care — means that extraordinary measures are needed to kill ObamaCare.
This plan, if executed properly, will kill the bill and it will give opponents two more bites at the apple, after it passes the Senate.
There are some atmospheric conditions that will help this plan work. For example, both sides of the net roots should cease fire on posts against each other. There must be a truce until the bill is dead. The target is the bill, not each other.
So, for those on the left who have decided to kill this bill, they are welcome to join in this the kill-the-bill fun.
Rationale: There are many reasons in agreement between the right and the left and the American public about why this bill must be killed:
1. It will increase health care costs;
2. The individual mandate is massive government intrusion on individual freedom, and is a gift to the private insurers, and disproportionately impacts lower-income families;
3. The fantasies of CBO’s assumptions notwithstanding, this bill will accelerate our march to financial insolvency; and,
4. Passage of the bill merely reinforces the practice of buying votes with debt issued by the U.S. Treasury;
5. Among many other reasons, in the words of Howard Dean, the bill does more harm than good.
The Plan: First, conservatives will object to the appointment of the conferees. This is not a motion, so it is non-debatable. An objection cannot be overcome unless the Senator making the objection caves. Let’s hope Senator McConnell agrees with this approach — but regardless, the objection shall be made.
This forces two votes in the U.S. House, one vote to amend the Senate bill on the House floor, since the Senate bill likely cannot pass the House unamended, and will force another vote on final passage of the amended House bill.
So, first, conservatives force two votes in the House, by preventing the appointment of the conferees, and therefore, preventing a House-Senate Conference.
Second, the left will focus on three separate issues to kill the bill in the House. The object of these issues is not to support these policies per say, but to add items to the House bill that will be so objectionable that when the bill goes back over to the Senate, that the Dems lose one or more of their 60 votes.
The Public Option: The progressive’s net roots should hold accountable the Democratic House members who said they would not vote for the bill if there was no public option. Progressives need to produce enough votes to force the public option back into the bill. Forcing the public option back into the bill is in the progressive’s interest since it will show they have the political power to do it, and will set a precedent for a new health care reform baseline in the House for Democrats. It is in conservative’s interest for this to happen because if it does, Senator Lieberman’s vote reverts to a NO.
The Nelson Buy-Off: Both the left and the right net roots will focus on pulling the Nebraska and Vermont free pass on increased Medicaid spending, on the basis that it is a corrupt back room deal that may be unconstitutional on the basis that it violates the equal protection clause (the 14th amendment to the Constitution.)
Unions: Unions must pull the Senate tax on Cadillac health plans, and replace it with the House tax on individuals. (I know, I can’t believe I just wrote that either!) This will force Senators, when the bill goes back to the Senate, to oppose the bill which could force the Dems lower than 60 votes.
Hold the No Votes: Conservatives need to hold and add one or two more no votes to the 39 House votes against the bill, among those Democrats who have concerns about their own re-election or who have announced their retirement — since the leverage from the Speaker has substantially decreased. If every No vote on the original House bill holds, there only needs to be two additional no votes.
Pro-Life and Pro-Abortion Forces: In short, have at it. Given the Stupak amendment majority in the House, the pro-lifers must stick Stupak back on the bill, so that when it is sent back to the Senate, the pro-abortion majority can pull Stupak back off. When the bill goes back to the Senate, the pro-abortion forces can remove Stupak, just as they did a couple of weeks ago. Once Stupak is pulled again from the Senate it must go back to the House to be amended, or die there.
We do not need any more than 42 votes on the House floor, and last time there were 39 No votes.
Assuming we have a hard base of 25 no Dem votes, then the net roots need to produce eight House votes on either the abortion or public option question.
The Stupak folks ought to be able produce ten additional no votes.
This is not difficult math. And MoveOn.org is already telling its members to oppose the Senate bill.
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Wild Thing's comment.......
Interesting article and a lot of things to consider.
It is inot often you watch the politicians of a nation willingly throw said nation’s prosperity down the toilet. It is heartbreaking..........At 1AM on the longest, darkest night of the year, the demons do their dirtiest work.
Until this thing is in the Rose Garden with a gloating Obama holding a pen, we still have a war to fight.
And even after that, we have to fight. Our liberty and our republic. This is not something we can concede. Ever.
We’re going to lose battles like we did tonight but we cannot EVER surrender.
The difference between the GOP and the Dems. The Dems KNOW how to play political hardball. They will do whatever it takes to win.
On the other hand, the GOP wants to "play nice" and be friends to everyone.
As PATRIOTS, it is our DUTY to fight this tooth and nail.
Posted by Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 03:55 AM
Comments
Once they pass this it will go to reconciliation in the house. There are a lot of libtards there that are not happy with this version and all the deals that changed their version.
So who knows how it will turn out. I can't believe how none of the are listening to the PEOPLE. If this goes through as is it is the end .
Posted by: Mark at December 21, 2009 07:42 AM
No, we don't want it. Only idiots want something like this. But in all actuality, what Nelson got is probably unconstitutional. Making Nebraska the only state NOT to have to pay back Medicaid taxes while making all other states cough it up for us is illegal. Harry Reid could not give that but he did anyway and E.Ben Neezer Nelson fell for it hook, line and sinker. Nebraska got nothing in the long run. Did you know there is also a marriage penalty in this bill? Like us married folks aren't already taxed enough? This is bat shit crazy. Someone has their morals messed up and it ain't me.
Posted by: Lynn at December 21, 2009 08:02 AM
This is what we are going to be paying for. I received this in an Email.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This should be on the front page of every newspaper in America -in large bold letters. This was a "letter to the editor" in August 29th Jackson, MS, newspaper.
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Dear Sirs:
"During my last night's shift in the ER, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient with a shiny new gold tooth, multiple elaborate tattoos, a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and a new cellular telephone equipped with her favorite R&B tune for a ringtone. Glancing over the chart, one could not help noticing her payer status: Medicaid. She smokes more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day and, somehow, still has money to buy beer.
And our Congress expects me to pay for this woman's health care? Our nation's health care crisis is not a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. It is a crisis of culture - a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. A culture that thinks "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me." Life is really not that hard.
Don't you agree?
STARNER JONES, MD
Jackson , MS
Posted by: Mark at December 21, 2009 08:32 AM
Send those pink slips out!!!
Posted by: Jack at December 21, 2009 10:21 AM
The arrogance of the Senators and President Obama knows no bounds.
We the people are powerless to stop them. The only ones that count to these elected officials are the Unions, SEIU in particular, and the special interest groups. They are the one who put them in office, through manipulation and in some cases coersion.
You are right in pointing out the differences between the parties.The Republican party needs to bring forth viable CONSERVATIVE candidates in the next two elections, and support them in every way. If they do not than nothing will be gained.
Until the majority of Americans feel the impact of what was done this Morning, both in their pocket books and in their quality of life, I am afraid that nothing will change. Folks like us obviously, do not have enought influence or power to stop what is going on.
Welcome to the era of Socialist Amerika
Posted by: Sean at December 21, 2009 10:30 AM
Slim chances to stop this bill, but slim victories have happened before. We can pray to God to help us preserve the individual freedoms of America.
Also, keep buying ammo!
Posted by: TomR at December 21, 2009 12:24 PM
Nelson is a scummy whore and Reid is his scummy
John. With MedicAid now free to Nebraskans, consider that YOU are now paying for it.
Even the slimebag Chris Dodd walked away with $100 million, for a vote he would have splashed through a cess pool to make for nothing.
No one should have trusted Liberman, by the way. He's a reliable lefty who will always cave on the things that matter to us.
You have to believe that this level of corruption, immorality and megalomania will destroy itself. Otherwise there is despair.
Posted by: Rhod at December 21, 2009 03:17 PM
Mark, maybe if enough on the left side can
get through to these horrible people, maybe
it could stop this. I am getting worn out
from this and the left never does, they
seem to love stress. grrrr
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 06:28 PM
Lynn, my gosh, so they are going after
marriage in this as well. sheesh.
If this goes through it will be worse
then in Canada or England or anywhere.
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 06:30 PM
Mark, thank you so much for showing us that
letter. wow yesss I agree it should be on the
cover of papers everywhere.
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 06:31 PM
Jack, amen to that.
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 06:34 PM
Sean, that is exactly what we are dealing
with.
"The arrogance of the Senators and President Obama knows no bounds."
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 06:35 PM
Tom, AMEN to that.
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 06:38 PM
Rhod, I agree, none of them should be trusted.
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 06:41 PM
Pardon the military grade imagery, but... BEND OVER AMERICA, IT'S CHRISTMAS FROM THE DEMOCRATS-- BYOK-Y (BRING YOUR OWN K-Y)!
Posted by: Anonymous at December 21, 2009 07:52 PM
Chrissie many times ultimate victory comes from a defeat. "Remember the Alamo" refers to a loss, but that loss, that defeat became a rallying cry for tens of thousands and that loss lead to the great victory and the birth of Texas. This loss can be flipped and turned to some rallying cry in the end.
Posted by: Ron Russell at December 21, 2009 07:55 PM
P.S. May've been a little crude earlier, but it needed to be said. (Damn Demo-rats.)
Posted by: Anonymous at December 21, 2009 08:00 PM
The Democrooks had best enjoy this crap right now, their time is short, America has been awakened, and even the left is pissed off at them...
Posted by: TexasFred at December 21, 2009 09:58 PM
Anonymous, no problem, that is what the
Dems are wanting and in many cases getting.
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 11:36 PM
Ron, thanks for that too. Your right about
defeat. it sure is hard and heart breaking
too. I just can't believe the left has a love
for our country.
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 11:38 PM
Texas Fred, ditto that.
Posted by: Wild Thing at December 21, 2009 11:39 PM
To hell with being polite with these scumbags who are stealing our country. FUCK THEM All! Sorry ladies but I always say whats on my mind.
Posted by: Eddie (Enemy of the State) at December 22, 2009 03:37 PM
