September 11, 2012
Remembering September 11, 2001
A Tribute of slides and footage to the lives lost September 11 2001.
Music: Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning) by Alan Jackson.
Wild Thing's comment..................
We will never forget!
God Bless All Our Defenders Past Present including Our Civil Servants as well as their families.
May 08, 2012
9/11 Suspects’ Courtroom Antics Could Cause the Trial to Take Years
9/11 Suspects’ Courtroom Antics Could Cause the Trial to Take Years
The 9/11 self-proclaimed mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his co-defendants were disruptive throughout their hearing at Guantanamo Bay over the weekend. Their antics caused the hearing to last 13 hours and included taking off their earphones that provided Arabic translations, insisting that the 20-plus page document of the charges against them be read aloud, partially disrobing, making a paper airplane and placing it on top of the microphone, etc.
Catherine Herridge, who was watching the hearing at Gitmo, pointed out the absurdity that the suspects took out the Arabic translation earphones even though at one point during the hearing they began reading an English-language magazine, The Economist.
Judge Andrew Napolitano said on Studio B, “Everybody is entitled to be present at their trial to confront the evidence against them and confront the witnesses against them. That has been tempered somewhat by the Military Commissions Act which excludes the defendants from hearing certain witnesses and looking at certain documents.”
He explained that the defendants can give up their right to be present in the courtroom by engaging in “behavior that unnecessarily disrupts or lengthens to an intolerable point the trial, the court can exclude them and put them in a place where they can observe what goes on but their antics won’t interrupt.”
Going forward, Judge Napolitano said, “If the court permits them to stay in the courtroom and they continue like this, this trial will take years and … they haven’t even picked a jury yet.”
Wild Thing's comment.........
Leave it to the lefties to make a mess of things. It would al lbe so different if people would stop trying to appease the terrorists iin any way.
These terrorists are putting on a show for the world to see.
September 12, 2011
Faithful Dog Leads Blind Man 70 Floors Down WTC Just Before Tower Collapses
Faithful Dog Leads Blind Man 70 Floors Down WTC Just Before Tower Collapses
In the aftershock of the worst terrorist gambit ever to hit the USA, we learn that the greatest inspiration can be found in the words, images and televised coverage of the American peoples' patriotic strength. But now, pan the cameras down a bit, and you'll find, just as heartening, the nation's dogs also upholding this great spirit of gallantry.
If you don't believe me, listen to this:
New York resident Omar Eduardo Rivera was unfortunate enough to find himself on the 71st floor of the World Trade Center north tower when the hijacked airlinerstruck the building 25 floors above him. Mr. Rivera, a computer technician who is blind, was in his office with his guide dog "Dorado" lying under the desk at the time.
According to the Contra Costa Times report published today, Mr. Rivera described how he unleashed his faithful friend, so that the dog might escape. But despite the chaos and the crowds of fleeing people, the four-year-old Labrador Retriever suppressed any selfish instinct for survival and instead stayed by the man's side and guided him to safety.
Mr. Rivera describes the drama:
"I stood up and I could hear how pieces of glass were flying around and falling. I could feel the smoke filling up my lungs and the heat was just unbearable.
"Not having any sight I knew I wouldn't be able to run down the stairs and through all the obstacles like other people. I was resigned to dying and decided to free Dorado to give him a chance of escape. It wasn't fair that we should both die in that hell.
"I thought I was lost forever—the noise and the heat were terrifying—but I had to give Dorado the chance of escape. So I unclipped his lead, ruffled his head, gave him a nudge and ordered Dorado to go.
"I hoped he would be able to quickly run down the stairs without me and get to safety. I thought he'd be so scared he'd run. Everything was in chaos. Glass was shattering around my head and people were rushing past down the stairs."
At that point, Dorado was swept away by the rush of people fleeing down the stairs, and Mr. Rivera found himself on his own for several minutes amid the pandemonium. But then the unexpected occurred, in the form of a familiar, fuzzy nudge from knee-high.
Mr. Rivera explains, "He returned to my side a few minutes later and guided me down 70 flights and out into the street, it was amazing. It was then I knew for certain he loved me just as much as I loved him. He was prepared to die in the hope he might save my life."
Inside the egress stairwell, they found some additional assistance from a co-worker. "I took hold of her arm. She went down on my right side and the dog on my left," says Mr. Rivera.
The narrow stairwell was extremely crowded, and confusion exacerbated the situation. "People were pushing and shoving past me. Everywhere there was a sense of terror."
But according to the man, order gradually prevailed: "...most people behaved quite prudently and grasped what was happening, so we walked down in an orderly fashion, but it was slow going. It was slow going because there were so many people struggling to get out but Dorado kept nudging me down step by step."
It took more than an hour for Dorado, Mr. Rivera and his co-worker to descend those 70 flights of stairs. Not long after they had reached the ground and gotten to safety, the tower collapsed.
Says Mr. Rivera, "I owe my life to Dorado—my companion and best friend."
Wild Thing's comment......
Amazing story ! Animals are the best companions in the world. They really are true family.
Awsesome NFL Tribute to 9/11
Wild Thing's comment.........
Jim Cornelison sings , he is fantastic.
This was really good, I hope you all got to see it. If not here it is for you to check it out.
September 11, 2011
Awesome Speech By President George W. Bush Spoke Yesterday At The Flight 93 Memorial in Pennsylvania
President George W. Bush spoke this afternoon at the Flight 93 Memorial in Pennsylvania.
From his speech yesterday:
On 9-11, “The most lives lost on American soil on a single day since the Battle of Antietam.”
“One of the lessons of 9-11 is that evil is real and so is courage.”
“At the moment American democracy was under attack our citizens defied their captors by holding a vote. The choice they made would cost them their lives. And they knew it. Many passengers called their loved ones to say good-bye. Then hung up to perform their final act.”
“The Flight 93 heroes led the first counter attack in the WAR ON TERROR.”
“The temptation of isolation is deadly wrong.”
Bush receives a standing ovation. Even Bill Clinton and Veep Joe Biden stood up.
Wild Thing's comment.....
Wonderful speech by G.W.
One day we will have a real President in office again. Not a fraud, not a limp wrisred Muslim and Muslim loving, America hating POS like Obama.
God bless President Bush and Laura.
September 11, 2001 ~ Video History Of Attacks ~ Never Forget!
The valor of the first responders of September 11, the men and women who carried out their ordinary jobs under the most extraordinary circumstances, will never be forgotten – not on this 10th anniversary, the 11th, the 20th or beyond.
As it happened.......September 11, 2001 – The Initial Bulletins – WTC North Tower Hit (8:46 AM EDT
What follows is a succession of "BREAKING NEWS" bulletins, as they happened live, beginning with WNYW-TV in New York. WNYW (Channel 5) was the first TV station in the world to interrupt their regular programming with the breaking news at 8:48 that morning, just two minutes after the impact. CNN's "breaking news" bulletin follows at 8:49, and so on. Included in this "BREAKING NEWS" segment are the original bulletins from WCBS-TV (Channel 2, New York), WNBC-TV (Channel 4, New York), WABC-TV (Channel 7, New York), Fox News Channel, WPIX-TV (Channel 11, New York), NY1 (New York One, All News), MSNBC, CBS News, ABC News and NBC News. (Also included in this segment, for the sake of completeness, is an original "breaking news" audio bulletin from a local NYC news radio station, WCBS-AM 880. Accompanying this audio-only clip is some generic "B-Roll" video footage from the streets of Manhattan that morning)
September 11, 2001 – As It Happened - WTC South Tower Attack – Multiple Networks Video (9:03 AM EDT)
This is a video from Fox News of Anchor Jon Scott’s broadcast on live TV of the South Tower of the World Trade Center being hit – the moment when everyone realized America was actually under attack.
September 11, 2001 – Pentagon Attacked – (9:43 AM EDT)
The collapse of the South Tower at 9:59 is documented here in a succession of newscast clips that captures this horrific moment as it happened live on several broadcast stations including WCBS-TV (Channel 2, New York), CNN, ABC News, NBC News, NY1 (New York One, All News), WNBC-TV (Channel 4, New York), Fox News Channel, WPIX-TV (Channel 11, New York) and more.
This is an exerpt from the DVD - "September 11, 2001 - As It Happened - A Composite."
September 11, 2001 – United Airlines Flight 93 Crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania (10:10 AM EDT)
September 11, 2001 – WTC North Tower Collapse – Multiple Network Video (10:28 AM EDT)
September 11, 2001 – President George W. Bush Addresses the Nation from the Oval Office – 8:30 PM ET.
Very Special Budweiser 9/11 Commercial ~ Thank you Budweiser!!
Wild Thing's comment......
I love this commercial it is so very special.
August 15, 2011
First Responders Not Invited To 9/11 Anniversary Ceremony
First Responders Not Invited To 9/11 Anniversary Ceremony
First responders who were called to the World Trade Center site in the days and weeks following 9/11 will be on the outside looking in at next month's anniversary ceremony.
Organizers say police officers, firefighters and rescue workers will not be invited to take part in the primary 10th anniversary ceremony activities.
Instead, they will be asked back at the site another day for a separate ceremony.
Officials cite security and a lack of room as the reasoning behind the decision.
In addition to President Barack Obama and former President George W. Bush, thousands of family members will also be on hand.
It's estimated as many as 91,000 people took part in the initial search and rescue at the World Trader Center site.
Wild Thing's comment........
Any one who survived should attend, anyone who risked there lives should be able to attend. It's not right.
September 13, 2010
This Is What 19 MUSLIM Terrorists Did and Obama Wants Us To Have Tolerance!!!!
This is the horrifick audio by a man who called 911 from the world trade center on Sept. 11, 2001. It's a frightening tape, especially the last 3 seconds.
Listen to the last 4 minutes of Kevin Cosgrove's life. He was trapped in the 105th floor in the North Tower. At the end of the video, the tower begins to fall and he screams "OH GOD!!! Oooohhhh!!!" This is what 19 MUSLIM hijackers put our people through. and OBAMA and the left wants tolerance???
This is Kevin Cosgrove. He was the Vice President of Aon Corporation and was 46 years old. He was on the 105th floor of the South Tower, when he saw the attacks of the North Tower. He made a phone call to his wife, telling her that he was okay and that he was on his way down. Right after he got off the phone, the South Tower was attacked. This tape goes from when the 911 phone call was first made to the collapse of the South Tower. Kevin Cosgrove's body was found a week after the attacks, and was buried in St. Patrick's Cemetery in Huntington, NY.
Wild Thing's comment.......
I wanted to share this to all of you. And if you know of anyone that says Obama is right and agrees with the BS of being tolerant toward Islam, Muslims etc. Show them this video maybe it will break through their heart of ice for the deaths caused by the followers of Islam.
September 12, 2010
Obama Commemorates 9/11 With Appeal For Tolerance Of His Terrorist Friends ( Islam )
Obama commemorates 9/11 with appeal for tolerance
Barack Obama appealed to an unsettled nation Saturday to honor the memory of the Sept. 11 attacks by hewing to the values of diversity and tolerance. "We will not sacrifice the liberties we cherish or hunker down behind walls of suspicion and mistrust," the president declared.
Speaking at the Pentagon, where nine years ago a hijacked plane smashed into the west side of the building and killed 184 people, Obama conjured a solemn remembrance of that horrible day but also spoke strongly in defense of religious freedom.
"As Americans we are not — and never will be — at war with Islam," the president said. "It was not a religion that attacked us that September day — it was al-Qaida, a sorry band of men which perverts religion."
As Obama, joined by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, laid a wreath at the Pentagon memorial where American Airlines Flight 77 crashed, New York City braced for protests for and against the proposed Islamic cultural center.
Against that backdrop Obama spoke forcefully.
"The highest honor we can pay those we lost, indeed our greatest weapon in this ongoing war, is to do what our adversaries fear the most," the president said. "To stay true to who we are, as Americans; to renew our sense of common purpose; to say that we define the character of our country, and we will not let the acts of some small band of murderers who slaughter the innocent and cower in caves distort who we are."
Obama did not mention the New York City mosque, or the Florida pastor, but his message was clear.
"We champion the rights of every American, including the right to worship as one chooses — as service members and civilians from many faiths do just steps from here, at the very spot where the terrorists struck this building," he said. The Pentagon houses a chapel where people of different religions can pray.
Obama also has sought to cast Sept. 11 as a day of service to others, and he participated himself by traveling to the Ronald H. Brown Middle School in northeast Washington to take part in Armed Services YMCA: Operation Kid Comfort. At the school, Obama helped paint a multipurpose room, and chatted with volunteers making quilts for children of deployed troops decorated with pictures of servicemembers.
Wild Thing's comment........
Muslim in chief, cocaine user, bi-sexual, Marxist pig!
lays a wreath in honor of those who died
But for WHICH ones who died? That's the million dollar question, eh, terrorist lover??!!
He wants us to tolerate the atrocities and evil of Islam?!! Why of course he does they are his brothers.
“Diversity and tolerance” are not values. They are tools for stifling the American people.
"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” - Thomas Mann
Obama “honors” the dead by calling for tolerance for the people who killed them. I feel like I’m living in the flippin’ Twilight Zone.
“al-Qaida, a sorry band of men which perverts religion.”
“a sorry band”
That’s really tellin them, you POS! Obama inspires loathing like no other politician. Once again he gives another of his "middle finger to America"!
"As Americans, we will not and never will be at war with Islam. It was not a religion that attacked us that September day. It was Al-Qaeda, a sorry band of men which perverts religion."
"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. " - Winston Churchill
Barack Hussein Obama does not seek “peace with Islam” he seeks our submission to it!!!!
Other things he has said about Islam and Muslims.........
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ~Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. The Audacity of Hope
“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.” Barack Hussein Obama
“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit” Barack Hussein Obama
“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.” Barack Hussein Obama
“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country” Barack Hussein Obama
“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.” Barack Hussein Obama
“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.” Barack Hussein Obama
“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.” Barack Hussein Obama
“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.” Barack Hussein Obama
“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.” Barack Hussein Obama
“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.” Barack Hussein Obama
"And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world...And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.” Barack Hussein Obama
“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam” Barack Hussein Obama
September 11, 2010
Never Forgetting 9.11.2001 ~ We Will Never Forget!!
Man Trying to climb down the face of building
INSIDE WTC Before collapse
Timeline of Events of Sept. 11th 2001
7:58 a.m. - United Airlines Flight 175 departs Boston for Los Angeles,
7:58 a.m. - United Airlines Flight 175 departs Boston for Los Angeles, carrying 56 passengers, two pilots, and seven flight attendants. The Boeing 767 is hijacked after takeoff and diverted to New York.
7:59 a.m. - American Airlines Flight 11 departs Boston for Los Angeles, carrying 81 passengers, two pilots, and nine flight attendants. This Boeing 767 is also hijacked and diverted to New York.
8:01 a.m. - United Airlines Flight 93, a Boeing 757 carrying 38 passengers, two pilots, and five flight attendants, leaves Newark, N.J., for San Francisco.
8:10 a.m. - American Airlines Flight 77 departs Washington's Dulles International Airport for Los Angeles, carrying 58 passengers, two pilots, and four flight attendants.
The Boeing 757 is hijacked after takeoff.
8:46 a.m. - American Flight 11 from Boston crashes into the North Tower
at the World Trade Center.
9 a.m. - President Bush arrives at Sarasota, Fla., school for speech. White House chief of staff
Andrew Card tells him a plane has crashed into the World Trade Center.
9:03 a.m. - United Flight 175 from Boston crashes into the South Tower at the World Trade Center.
- U.S. Federal Aviation Administration shuts down all New York area airports.
9:05 a.m. - President Bush is visiting a second-grade class when Card whispers to him that a second plane has struck the towers. President delays plans to address the tragedy, deciding to get more information first.
9:21 a.m. - Bridges and tunnels leading into New York City are closed.
9:25 a.m. - All domestic flights are grounded by U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.
9:30 a.m. - President Bush meets privately with National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, who briefs him. He delivers first remarks on the tragedy and asks for a moment of silence for the victims and their families.
9:45 a.m. - American Flight 77 crashes into The Pentagon.
10 a.m. - Aboard Air Force One en route to Louisiana, President Bush calls Vice President Dick Cheney and puts America's military on a high alert status. Sifts through reports from staff, including erroneous report that a car bomb had struck the State Department. Gets news that a plane has crashed near Pittsburgh.
10:05 a.m. - The South Tower at the World Trade Center collapses.
10:05 a.m. - The White House is evacuated.
10:10 a.m. - A large section of one side of The Pentagon collapses.
10:10 a.m. - United Flight 93 crashes in a wooded area in Pennsylvania after passengers confront hijackers.
One passenger, Todd Beamer calls his wife on a cell phone and tells her of the plan to over power the hijackers.
The connection remains open after Beamer puts the phone down. Lisa Beamer hears her husband tell the other passengers "Let's roll" signaling the start of the attack.
10:28 a.m. - The North Tower at the World Trade Center collapses.
11:40 a.m. - President Bush arrives at Barksdale Air Force Base, La., where he makes series of telephone calls
from a general's conference room. Tells Cheney in telephone call, "It's the faceless coward that attacks."
He also talks to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and New York Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.
1 p.m. - President Bush speaks to the country from a briefing room at Barksdale Air Force Base, Louisiana. (text below)
"I want to reassure the American people that the full resources of the federal government are working to assist local authorities to save lives and to help the victims of these attacks. Make no mistake: The United States will hunt down and punish those responsible for these cowardly acts.
I've been in regular contact with the Vice President, the Secretary of Defense, the national security team and my Cabinet. We have taken all appropriate security precautions to protect the American people. Our military at home and around the world is on high alert status, and we have taken the necessary security precautions to continue the functions of your government.
We have been in touch with the leaders of Congress and with world leaders to assure them that we will do whatever is necessary to protect America and Americans.
I ask the American people to join me in saying a thanks for all the folks who have been fighting hard to rescue our fellow citizens and to join me in saying a prayer for the victims and their families.
The resolve of our great nation is being tested. But make no mistake: We will show the world that we will pass this test. God bless."
1:15 p.m. - President Bush departs conference room for Air Force One in a camouflaged Humvee. Talks to Cheney again en route to Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska and schedules a 4 p.m. meeting of his national security staff. Also talks to New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Gov. George Pataki. "I know your heart is broken and your city is strained and anything we can do, let me know," Bush says.
3:07 p.m. - President Bush arrives at U.S. Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska.
4:36 p.m. - President Bush departs for Washington. En route, he calls first lady Laura Bush and says,
"I'm coming home, see you at the White House." Works with aides on his prime-time speech.
6 p.m. (approx) - Leaders and members from both sides of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate make a
joint statement on the attacks and end the press conference with the singing of "God Bless America".
7 p.m. - President Bush arrives at White House to prepare for address.
8:30 p.m. - President Bush speaks to nation from The Oval Office (text below).
"Good evening. Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberateand deadly terrorist acts. The victims were in airplanes or in their offices: secretaries, businessmen and women, military and federal workers, moms and dads, friends and neighbors.
Thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil, despicable acts of terror.
The pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness and a quiet, unyielding anger.
These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed. Our country is strong. A great people has been moved to defend a great nation.
Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shatter steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve.
America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining.
Today, our nation saw evil, the very worst of human nature, and we responded with the best of America, with the daring of our rescue workers, with the caring for strangers and neighbors who came to give blood and help in any way they could.
Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans. Our military is powerful, and it's prepared. Our emergency teams are working in New York City and Washington, D.C., to help with local rescue efforts.
Our first priority is to get help to those who have been injured and to take every precaution to protect our citizens at home and around the world from further attacks.
The functions of our government continue without interruption. Federal agencies in Washington which had to be evacuated today are reopening for essential personnel tonight and will be open for business tomorrow.
Our financial institutions remain strong, and the American economy will be open for business as well.
The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts.
I've directed the full resources for our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and bring them to justice.
We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.
I appreciate so very much the members of Congress who have joined me in strongly condemning these attacks. And on behalf of the American people, I thank the many world leaders who have called to offer their condolences and assistance.
America and our friends and allies join with all those who want peace and security in the world and we stand together to win the war against terrorism.
Tonight I ask for your prayers for all those who grieve, for the children whose worlds have been shattered, for all whose sense of safety and security has been threatened. And I pray they will be comforted by a power greater than any of us spoken through the ages in Psalm 23: "Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil for you are with me."
This is a day when all Americans from every walk of life unite in our resolve for justice and peace. America has stood down enemies before, and we will do so this time.
None of us will ever forget this day, yet we go forward to defend freedom and all that is good and just in our world.
Thank you. Good night and God bless America."
8:35 p.m. - Bush attends national security meeting.
10:21 p.m. - Meeting has ended. Secret Service radio squawks with news that Bush has gone home to bed:
"Trailblazer. Second floor of the residence."
Alan Jackson - Where Were You When The World Stopped Turning
Wild Thing's comment.........
Because of 9-11 and all the other attacks before that and since and all from Muslims in the name of their Islam we all have a greater role as an American citizen—to make sure that no one forgets what evil has been done to us.
We are stuck with a president that has had well known terrorists for friends, William Ayers and his wife. But people did not care, not only that Ayers had attacked the Pentagon. So people living through 9-11 and the attack on the Pentagon that day a few years later voted for a person with connections and friendship with yet another Pentagon bomber. Yessss America for some have a short memory for how they felt on 9-11. Or is it that so many just do not truly love America.
Not only must we never forget the 9-11 - I will never forget President Bush's courage during this time nor his administration's quick and determined actions to go after Ben Laden in Afghanistan, the axis of evil nations, and terrorists around the world! The first time the WTC was attacked, Bill Clinton did nothing. Thank GOD we had a President who was not afraid to do what was necessary to protect Americans and thank you to our allies! And thank GOD for our military heroes who have been defending us so bravely and so well! God bless each and every one of them
We had friends around the world, other countries that cared about America and felt our loss. ( Since then Obama has treated England in a shameful way)
American National Anthem played at Buckingham Palace after 9/11
February 12, 2010
Obama Will Help Select Location of Khalid Sheik Mohammed Terrorist Trial
Obama will help select location of Khalid Sheik Mohammed terrorism trial
Obama is planning to insert himself into the debate about where to try the accused mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, three administration officials said Thursday, signaling a recognition that the administration had mishandled the process and triggered a political backlash.
Obama initially had asked Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. to choose the site of the trial in an effort to maintain an independent Justice Department. But the White House has been taken aback by the intense criticism from political opponents and local officials of Holder's decision to try Khalid Sheik Mohammed in a civilian courtroom in New York.
Administration officials acknowledge that Holder and Obama advisers were unable to build political support for the trial. And Holder, in an interview Thursday, left open the possibility that Mohammed's trial could be switched to a military commission, although he said that is not his personal and legal preference.
"At the end of the day, wherever this case is tried, in whatever forum, what we have to ensure is that it's done as transparently as possible and with adherence to all the rules," Holder said. "If we do that, I'm not sure the location or even the forum is as important as what the world sees in that proceeding."
Administration officials said the president's involvement has to do with securing congressional funding for the costly trial before bipartisan efforts to strip financing for the case against Mohammed and four alleged co-conspirators gain greater momentum. They said it was a matter of national security, not just politics.
Democrats, to help the administration push back on Republican attacks, sent Obama a letter Thursday afternoon that endorsed the use of federal criminal courts. "Our system of justice is strong enough to prosecute the people who have attacked us," wrote Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (Vt.) and Senate Intelligence Chairman Dianne Feinstein (Calif.).
Obama gave little clue about how the administration will proceed when he was asked Sunday about the trial. But he made clear that, in a shift from last year, he is now part of the decision-making process, saying in a CBS interview that Manhattan was still an option. "I have not ruled it out," Obama said.
If the White House is unable to find a civilian court where the Mohammed trial can be held, and if the political pressure continues, the administration may be forced to shift to a military commission.
Officials in the states where a civilian trial could be held have voiced clear opposition to hosting one. Two of the likeliest states with ties to the terrorist attacks -- New Jersey and Virginia -- recently elected Republican governors. Two other potential states -- New York and Pennsylvania -- have key 2010 elections. One possible site is the town of Newburgh, N.Y. State officials have said they would fight that move.
Wild Thing's comment.......
This clown Barack HUSSEIN Obama wouldn't know responsibility if it bit him on one of his satellite dish ears!
Wouldn’t it just be quicker if he asked the Teleprompter?
Well here is an idea. What if they do it it at Obama's birthsite as soon as he tells us what it is of course.
Impeach Barack Obama. Court Martial Barack Obama.
Posted by Wild Thing at 02:40 AM
January 08, 2010
Sept.11 Terrorism Trial Will Cost Hundreds of Millions of Dollars, Says Mayor
NYC Mayor: Security for Terror Trials Will Be Colossally Expensive
New York, NY — Stepped-up security measures for the upcoming detention and trial of the suspects in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks are now expected to cost hundreds of millions of dollars — a far heftier price tag than originally thought.
In a letter to federal officials, Mayor Michael Bloomberg put the cost at $216 million for the first year after Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other suspects arrive in Manhattan from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. After that, the mayor said it would cost $200 million annually for as long as the men are detained in the city — mainly overtime for extra New York Police Department patrols.
Believing the high-profile trial could inspire another attack, the NYPD has planned a show of force involving thousands of officers. The department expects to establish a frozen zone around the courthouse protected by car check points, bomb-sniffing dogs, rooftop sharpshooters and helicopter patrols.
Wild Thing's comment.........
How about if we just shoot them all...for free.
November 30, 2009
"Travesty" by Charlie Daniels
I keep wondering how long the American people will continue to be blinded by the arrogance and dangerous incompetence of the Obama Administration. It's as if they have set out to destroy America and everything we stand for.
Attorney General Eric Holder has announced that some of the terrorists responsible for the attacks on 9/11, including mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, will actually be brought to New York and given a civil trial, which is tantamount to insanity.
The implications of such a trial are so far reaching and potentially catastrophic as to be absolutely terrifying.
These will be nothing more than show trials with headline seeking defense lawyers given access to the CIA's innermost secrets and practices. Names will be named, methods will be exposed, intelligence networks destroyed and the result will be to render the CIA basically impotent and I guess that's what holder and Obama want.
If you believe what the liberal media puts out about the CIA, you would think they're only a bumbling bunch of jaded cloak and dagger has-beens who can't find their posterior with both hands.
Actually, the CIA is made up of the best and the brightest, dedicated people who stick their necks out in defense of this nation only to have it cut off by the Obama Administration.
What this is going to do to the morale and recruitment prospects of the CIA is immeasurable, will take decades to repair and in the meantime America will be more vulnerable than ever.
And is Obama so busy bowing to kings and emperors that he doesn't realize that the streets of New York could once again run red with the blood of innocent men, women and children if suicide bombers decide to intimidate the juries by blowing themselves up on the crowded streets of New York?
Think about this people, Obama is going to destroy America's premiere intelligence gathering agency, expose the people of New York to more terror bombings and send a message to the rest of the world that he is weak and soft on terror and more interested in pursuing his own ultra-liberal political agenda than he is in protecting the country he is sworn to protect.
How many foreign intelligence agencies do you think will be willing to share intelligence with America, knowing that a reckless and unrestrained attorney general and a weak and incompetent president are willing to expose them to the world.
Holder is no stranger to terrorist trials; his former law firm has defended a dozen or so Gitmo detainees, even while he was a senior partner.
And since we are granting constitutional rights to enemy combatants, it is possible that they can claim any information that was obtained through water boarding was coerced, and is inadmissible in court -since this administration has said that enhanced interrogation techniques are torture- and a jury might actually let them walk.
Now that's a terrifying thought.
These trials will corrode the infrastructure of America's ability to protect us, and further demonstrate to the rest of the world just what an unrealistic world the Obama Administration lives in.
Obama's vacillation on sending troops to Afghanistan shows the terrorist community that he is completely lost and in way over his head.
He has this flower child attitude that if we'll just be nice to the terrorist scum of this world they'll reciprocate by not destroying our country a piece at the time.
That is an incredibly dangerous mentality.
The Obama presidency will leave deep scars on this nation. He is destroying the economy. He is trying to destroy the best health care delivery system on the planet, he is destroying the intelligence infrastructure, he refuses to support the troops in Afghanistan, and he is going to bring Islamic fanatics to a prison in our homeland.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. I just don't know if America can survive an Obama presidency.
What do you think?
Pray for our troops, and for our country.
God Bless America,
Wild Thing's comment........
Another good one from Charlie Daniels.
November 29, 2009
Mental State Cited in 9/11 Case By America Hating Defense Lawyer
Mental State Cited in 9/11 Case
Military lawyers for Ramzi Binalshibh, an accused organizer of the 9/11 plot, and Mustafa al-Hawsawi, the conspiracy's alleged paymaster, say their clients have mental disorders that make them unfit for trial, likely caused or exacerbated by years of harsh confinement in Central Intelligence Agency custody.
The issue already has arisen in military-commission proceedings at the military's detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. According to an August ruling by a military judge, prosecutors have made an "apparent concession" that Mr. Binalshibh "suffers from a delusional disorder-persecutory type" disorder. Mr. Binalshibh has been prescribed "a variety of psychotropic medications used to treat schizophrenia and/or bipolar disorder, including Haldol, Abilify, risperidone and Ativan," according to commission records.
In October 2008, a military medical board reported Mr. Binalshibh may suffer from "severe mental disease" that could "impair his ability to conduct or cooperate intelligently in his defense."
A military attorney for Mr. Hawsawi, Lt. Cmdr. Gretchen Sosbee, said the military judge ordered a mental evaluation of her client, but its results haven't yet been entered into the record.
It long has been unconstitutional to prosecute people who are unable to understand proceedings against them or assist in their defense, whether in federal court, court-martial or military commission.
Cmdr. Lachelier ( Binalshibh's attorney) cited Bush administration memorandums endorsing the use of sleep deprivation, solitary confinement and other harsh techniques intended to induce a prisoner's cooperation.
Military records cited by the defense say Mr. Binalshibh "was seen 'acting out' in various manners, including breaking cameras placed in his cell" and covering cameras "with toilet paper...and with feces." At a June 2008 hearing, Mr. Binalshibh said "we're still in the black site" -- the term for CIA secret prisons. Mr. Binalshibh said he couldn't sleep because, among other reasons, his bunk is "always shaking automatically."
For a penal lawyer, the most important thing is to personalize, to humanize a client hated by everyone," Lachelier said. Pointing to her client's legal troubles -- he has been treated with psychotropic drugs at Guantanamo -- she hopes to convince a jury of angry New Yorkers to "not exaggerate his role" in the plot that led to the September 11 attacks.
Cmdr. Lachelier also protested the April 2009 Gitmo visits of Miss USA and Miss Universe saying their comments about the conditions at Gitmo "...made Guantánamo sound like a vacation land. And it devalues what the clients go through, how they live."
A reference to harsh treatment at CIA prisons brought out Guantanamo’s censors Thursday as an official of the war crimes court abruptly cut the sound to prevent spectators from hearing classified information. Cmdr. Suzanne Lachelier, a lawyer appointed by the Pentagon to defend 9/11 suspect Ramzi bin al Shibh, began discussing the prisoner’s treatment before he was taken to Guantanamo in September 2006 when the censor hit the switch.
Guantanamo defense lawyers, heroes for our time ~ What the hell! Can you believe this title??? ~ Wild Thing
The 700-odd lawyers defending the suspected foreign terrorists held by the United States at Guantanamo Bay say they share a common mission — to make amends for the US government’s actions in its “war on terror”.
It's perfectly patriotic," said US Navy Commander Suzanne Lachelier, pictured in 2008, a military attorney appointed to represent one of the accused September 11 plotters. She is one of only a handful of Americans who work to defend those who committed the horrific attacks in 2001 that killed nearly 3,000 people in the United States. "
“I couldn’t be on the side of the prosecution,” agreed Commander Suzanne Lachelier, a US Navy lawyer appointed to defend one of five men accused of participating in the September 11 attacks in 2001."
A nasty spat has broken out among defense lawyers over an issue that is likely to be front and center in the upcoming 9/11 trial in New York: who actually speaks for the defendants?
New York defense lawyer Scott Fenstermaker has made big headlines in recent days after telling The New York Times that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) and four accused 9/11 co-conspirators intend to plead not guilty in their upcoming trial so they can use the courtroom as a forum to attack U.S. foreign policy. (Fenstermaker is the lawyer for one of the defendants, Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, KSM's nephew, in a civil case challenging his detention.)
The comments kicked off a storm of controversy because they seemed to bolster complaints by conservative critics that the 9/11 defendants will use Attorney General Eric Holder's decision to try them in federal court as an opportunity to preach jihad.
But the U.S. military lawyers appointed to represent the other four 9/11 defendants tell NEWSWEEK that Fenstermaker hasn't met with their clients, has no authority to speak for them, and has no insight into what they might do at the trial.
Given that there's "not any way that he's been in communication with Mr. Mohammed, I can't see how he can be speaking for him," said Army Lt. Col. Michael Acuff, the military lawyer appointed to represent KSM.
U.S. Navy Cmdr. Suzanne Lachelier, the military lawyer for accused co-conspirator Ramzi bin al-Shibh, said she was so upset about Fenstermaker's public comments and TV appearances that she called him on his cell phone this week and warned him that he could be hit with a complaint to his state bar association.
"My client is represented," Lachelier said she told Fenstermaker, adding that "you are just as aware as I am of the professional risks of speaking for a client you don't represent." Fenstermaker's response, according to Lachelier, was: "OK, OK, thanks" and then to hang up. "He was a little shocked," she said. (She also sent Fenstermaker a letter warning him that his public comments may run afoul of New York bar rules.)
The spat between Fenstermaker and the defense lawyers underscores an issue that could be highly contentious early next year when the 9/11 defendants are expected to be flown to New York to stand trial.
In the military commission case against them—which is essentially now defunct as a result of Holder's decision—all five of the defendants have at various times said they did not want to be represented by their military lawyers or any other lawyers. KSM has said he wouldn't accept any attorney who is "not governed by Sharia" (Islamic law). He and the others have also used the proceeding to attack the U.S. government and celebrate the 9/11 attacks.
A letter signed by KSM and two other of the defendants in September 2009 denounced Guantánamo as the "island of oppression, torture, and terror" and expressed greetings to Osama bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri "on the occasion of the anniversary of eight years past on the most noble victory known to history over the forces of oppression and tyranny in the Washington and Manhattan attack."
Wild Thing's comment..........
Let's see then this will be the defense of these terrorists mentioned in this article.........
My client has this unusual mental disorder that makes him want to fly planes into buildings, your honor.
Cmdr. Suzanne Lachelier is HORRIBLE. Why or why is she allowed to even be in our military. GRRRRRRRRR
KSM ( Khalid Sheikh Mohammed a) and these other terrorists that did 9-11 will be given rights of Americans... now the CIA is to blame for their mental state.... they get outta jail free and become “wards” of the government, but at their free will cuzz they sued the Amwrican Govt for damages
parody of KSM singing “New York, New York”
(by Paul Shanklin on Rush Limbaugh’s show)...probably is about as
accurate predictor of what’s going to happen.
KSM (and his buds) will get acquitted. And KSM will end up driving a cab in New York, New York.
KSM is not stupid, he is killer, a terrorist but stupid ??? Nope.
Read this if you get a chance....
November 27, 2009
Have You Forgotten? by Darryl Worley
Wild Thing's comment..........
I wish a song like this would get through Obama and Eric Holders skull but it won't. They don't love our country no matter what is said to them.
....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
Posted by Wild Thing at 05:49 AM
Gold-Star Father David Jeffers to VILE N.D. Senator Kent Conrad: "I'm staying."
David Jeffers and his son Sergeant Eddie Jeffers
Gold-Star father David Jeffers to ND Senator Kent Conrad: "I'm staying."
Senator Conrad's insulting defense of trying KSM in New York
by David Jeffers
Democrat Senator from North Dakota, Kent Conrad, while defending the Obama Administration's decision to try al Qaeda terrorists in civilian courts, said:
"If people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else."
Really Senator Conrad? Would you like to retract that statement?
I am a Gold-Star Father, meaning my son Sergeant Eddie Jeffers was killed in Iraq. I am opposed to terrorists being tried in civilian courts. Did I mention that I am a 22 year Army veteran? Is it okay with you if invoke my free speech rights?
How about Debra Burlingame? Her brother, Charles "Chic" Burlingame III, was piloting the plane that terrorists slammed into the Pentagon. Ms. Burlingame is opposed to terrorists being tried in civilian courts. Does she need to go somewhere else?
Time and space does not allow listing the names of family members who lost loved ones on 9/11 and those who subsequently joined the military to find this terrorist scourge, some giving "the last full measure." Do all of these patriotic Americans need to go somewhere else?
Perhaps it is Senator Conrad who needs to go somewhere else? I'm not asking North Dakotans to send Senator Conrad out of the country, just back to Bismarck.
As for me, I'm staying.
Wild Thing's comment.......
This is truly low. Despicable!
Well said, Mr. Jeffers!
If you would like to you can send a note to Mr. Jeffers at American Thinker HERE. He is reading them all.
Read what his son Sergeant Eddie Jeffers wrote in 2007 before he was killed.
Sgt. Eddie Jeffers, USA (Iraq)
Hope Rides Alone
February 1, 2007
I stare out into the darkness from my post, and I watch the city burn to the ground. I smell the familiar smells, I walk through the familiar rubble, and I look at the frightened faces that watch me pass down the streets of their neighborhoods. My nerves hardly rest; my hands are steady on a device that has been given to me from my government for the purpose of taking the lives of others.
I sweat, and I am tired. My back aches from the loads I carry. Young American boys look to me to direct them in a manner that will someday allow them to see their families again...and yet, I too, am just a boy....my age not but a few years more than that of the ones I lead. I am stressed, I am scared, and I am paranoid...because death is everywhere. It waits for me, it calls to me from around street corners and windows, and it is always there.
There are the demons that follow me, and tempt me into thoughts and actions that are not my own...but that are necessary for survival. I've made compromises with my humanity. And I am not alone in this. Miles from me are my brethren in this world, who walk in the same streets...who feel the same things, whether they admit to it or not.
And to think, I volunteered for this...
And I am ignorant to the rest of the world...or so I thought.
But even thousands of miles away, in Ramadi, Iraq, the cries and screams and complaints of the ungrateful reach me. In a year, I will be thrust back into society from a life and mentality that doesn't fit your average man. And then, I will be alone. And then, I will walk down the streets of America, and see the yellow ribbon stickers on the cars of the same people who compare our President to Hitler.
I will watch the television and watch the Cindy Sheehans, and the Al Frankens, and the rest of the ignorant sheep of America spout off their mouths about a subject they know nothing about. It is their right, however, and it is a right that is defended by hundreds of thousands of boys and girls scattered across the world, far from home. I use the word boys and girls, because that's what they are. In the Army, the average age of the infantryman is nineteen years old. The average rank of soldiers killed in action is Private First Class.
People like Cindy Sheehan are ignorant. Not just to this war, but to the results of their idiotic ramblings, or at least I hope they are. They don't realize its effects on this war. In this war, there are no Geneva Conventions, no cease fires. Medics and Chaplains are not spared from the enemy's brutality because it's against the rules. I can only imagine the horrors a military Chaplain would experience at the hands of the enemy. The enemy slinks in the shadows and fights a coward’s war against us. It is effective though, as many men and women have died since the start of this war. And the memory of their service to America is tainted by the inconsiderate remarks on our nation's news outlets. And every day, the enemy changes...only now, the enemy is becoming something new. The enemy is transitioning from the Muslim extremists to Americans. The enemy is becoming the very people whom we defend with our lives. And they do not realize it. But in denouncing our actions, denouncing our leaders, denouncing the war we live and fight, they are isolating the military from society...and they are becoming our enemy.
Democrats and peace activists like to toss the word "quagmire" around and compare this war to Vietnam. In a way they are right, this war is becoming like Vietnam. Not the actual war, but in the isolation of country and military. America is not a nation at war; they are a nation with its military at war. Like it or not, we are here, some of us for our second, or third times; some even for their fourth and so on. Americans are so concerned now with politics, that it is interfering with our war.
Terrorists cut the heads off of American citizens on the internet...and there is no outrage, but an American soldier kills an Iraqi in the midst of battle, and there are investigations, and sometimes soldiers are even jailed...for doing their job.
It is absolutely sickening to me to think our country has come to this. Why are we so obsessed with the bad news? Why will people stop at nothing to be against this war, no matter how much evidence of the good we've done is thrown in their face? When is the last time CNN or MSNBC or CBS reported the opening of schools and hospitals in Iraq? Or the leaders of terror cells being detained or killed? It's all happening, but people will not let up their hatred of President Bush. They will ignore the good news, because it just might show people that Bush was right.
America has lost its will to fight. It has lost its will to defend what is right and just in the world. The crazy thing of it all is that the American people have not even been asked to sacrifice a single thing. It’s not like World War II, where people rationed food and turned in cars to be made into metal for tanks. The American people have not been asked to sacrifice anything. Unless you are in the military or the family member of a servicemember, its life as usual...the war doesn't affect you.
But it affects us. And when it is over and the troops come home and they try to piece together what's left of them after their service...where will the detractors be then? Where will the Cindy Sheehans be to comfort and talk to soldiers and help them sort out the last couple years of their lives, most of which have been spent dodging death and wading through the deaths of their friends? They will be where they always are, somewhere far away, where the horrors of the world can't touch them. Somewhere where they can complain about things they will never experience in their lifetime; things that the young men and women of America have willingly taken upon their shoulders.
We are the hope of the Iraqi people. They want what everyone else wants in life: safety, security, somewhere to call home. They want a country that is safe to raise their children in. Not a place where their children will be abducted, raped and murdered if they do not comply with the terrorists demands. They want to live on, rebuild and prosper. And America has given them the opportunity, but only if we stay true to the cause and see it to its end. But the country must unite in this endeavor...we cannot place the burden on our military alone. We must all stand up and fight, whether in uniform or not. And supporting us is more than sticking yellow ribbon stickers on your cars. It's supporting our President, our troops and our cause.
Right now, the burden is all on the American soldiers. Right now, hope rides alone. But it can change, it must change. Because there is only failure and darkness ahead for us as a country, as a people, if it doesn't.
Let's stop all the political nonsense, let's stop all the bickering, let's stop all the bad news and let's stand and fight!
Isn't that what America is about anyway?
November 24, 2009
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Loves New York ~ song parody
Song Parody of the Terrorists' New Anthem
RUSH Limbaugh : " EIB Network: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's New York, New York. That's another brilliant piece by "white comedian" Paul Shanklin. "
Wild Thing's comment.......
LOL this song parody New York, New York is one of the best Paul Shanklin parodies yet!
Lawyer: 9/11 Defendants Will Tell Jury 'Why They Did It' and Say They Are Not Guilty
9/11 Terrorist Defendants To Plead Not Guilty At Trial
Lawyer: 9/11 Defendants Will Tell Jury 'Why They Did It'
The five men facing trial in the Sept. 11 attacks will plead not guilty so that they can air their criticisms of U.S. foreign policy, the lawyer for one of the defendants said Sunday.
Scott Fenstermaker, the lawyer for accused terrorist Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, said the men would not deny their role in the 2001 attacks but "would explain what happened and why they did it."
The U.S. Justice Department announced earlier this month that Ali and four other men accused of murdering nearly 3,000 people in the nation's deadliest terrorist attack will face a civilian federal trial just blocks from the World Trade Center site.
Ali, also known as Ammar al-Baluchi, is a nephew of professed 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
Mohammed, Ali and the others will explain "their assessment of American foreign policy," Fenstermaker said.
"Their assessment is negative," he said.
Fenstermaker met with Ali last week at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. He has not spoken with the others but said the men have discussed the trial among themselves.
Fenstermaker was first quoted in The New York Times in Sunday's editions.
Critics of Attorney General Eric Holder's decision to try the men in a New York City civilian courthourse have warned that the trial would provide the defendants with a propaganda platform.
Dean Boyd, a spokesman for the Department of Justice, said Sunday that while the men may attempt to use the trial to express their views, "we have full confidence in the ability of the courts and in particular the federal judge who may preside over the trial to ensure that the proceeding is conducted appropriately and with minimal disrupton, as federal courts have done in the past."
The terrorist’s lawyers already told reporters that Obama and Holder’s gaffes may affect the trial.
Lawyers Say Obama, Holder Gaffes Could Influence 9/11 Trial
Remarks by the US president and Eric Holder, the Attorney General, forecasting a conviction for the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed could create unnecessary delays in the trial, analysts said.
Defence lawyers were sure to apply to have the charges dismissed after Mr Obama made an overarching effort to reassure Americans that the decision to put Mohammed on trial at a federal court in New York was sound.
"I don't think it will be offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him," the president said in an NBC interview on his tour of Asia, which ended late on Thursday.
Seeming to realise the potential for trouble in his answer, the president - a lawyer and former law professor - added: "What I said was, people will not be offended if that's the outcome. I'm not pre-judging, I'm not going to be in that courtroom, that's the job of prosecutors, the judge and the jury."
Testifying before Congress, Mr Holder said "failure was not an option" for prosecutors. "These are cases that have to be won," he said. Mohammed will be put on trial with four alleged co-conspirators in the suicide plane hijackings that claimed nearly 3,000 lives
"The pieces of the bodies of infidels were flying like dust particles. If you would have seen it with your own eyes, you would have been very pleased, and your heart would have been filled with joy." "The Most Wanted Man in the World" Time magazine profile (16 September 2001)
Wild Thing's comment........
I guess the terrorists will appeal to the hearts of their peers (muslims) on the jury.
Since this is Obama’s decision his deplorable decision “abilities” need to also go on trial.
Obama does not want a military tribunal. Obama by his decision to make this a civilian trial in New York has chosen to make public sensitive intelligence gathering information and have those procedures and information broadcast to the world. Obama does not support America’s safety. He behaves like a foreign enemy of the internaltional war on terror.
And remember that Holder is investigating the CIA interrogators as well.
Todd Beamers Father, David Beamer Criticizes New York 9/11 Tria
Mr. Beamer is the father of Todd Beamer, who died on United Airlines Flight 93 on 9/11.
9/11 SCOTT "Let's Roll" BEAMER's Dad called for "Regime Change USA-2010/2012"
David Beamer discusses the Obama administration's decision to try 9/11 conspirators in federal criminal court in New York City. From FOX News.
Here is David Beamer's editorial published in WSJ last Friday
Eric Holder’s Baffling KSM Decision (by 9/11 family member David Beamer)
By DAVID BEAMER
On Wednesday, the Senate Judiciary Committee met to question Attorney General Eric Holder about his decision to prosecute Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others in criminal courts rather than military tribunals. As the father of Todd Beamer, who died on United Airlines Flight 93, I was able to attend that hearing. What transpired caused me great concern and shook my confidence in our current administration.
The committee, chaired by Sen. Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.), displayed the division in our country not only visually—the Democrats were seated on the left and the Republicans on the right—but in every aspect of the proceedings. I expected that some members would agree with Mr. Holder and that others would have challenging questions about his decision. What I did not anticipate was the level of partisanship showed by the majority party. It seemed clear to me and other family members of victims that party loyalty is trumping concern for America's security interests.
In his opening remarks, Attorney General Holder acknowledged that these defendants could have been brought to trial in civilian court or before military tribunals. But he made the argument that trying them in our criminal courts would restore the integrity of our judicial system. He assured us that the trials would be quick, that the safety of New Yorkers would be paramount, that classified information would not be revealed, that the evidence was overwhelming, and that justice would be served.
Then he said that the USS Cole attackers would be tried in military courts since they attacked our military. So how does Mr. Holder categorize the Pentagon? Inexplicably, he offered up the body count of 9/11, the fact that civilian deaths outnumbered military ones, as a rationale for his decision.
Then the Republican members proceeded to ask Mr. Holder thoughtful questions. Some examples:
How can we be assured that these enemies will be found guilty? Given that criminal courts are now the presumed venue for those captured on the battlefield, will soldiers need to read them their rights at the time of capture? Since you wish to make exceptions on a case-by-case basis to the presumed civil venue, don't all those captured need to be read their rights and have the opportunity to remain silent? Won't this venue expose intelligence to our enemies? Can our classified information really be secured? Can we in fact predict how the judge will rule? If these people are brought into the country will they get additional rights under immigration law? What if they claim asylum?
The attorney general seemed bewildered in the face of these inquiries. Recurring themes in his responses included "I think," and "I can't imagine," and "I am not an expert in immigration."
Has our attorney general not considered these issues, or imagined the possible unintended consequences that will arise from his historic decision? It certainly seemed that way. If he had, he would have had better answers.
A second shocker: Mr. Holder said that he and his boss had not spoken in person about this decision. This matter only involves upholding the constitutional rights of Americans, establishing a precedent with battlefield impact, and the safety and security of our citizens in a time of war. What are the criteria to make something a priority with President Barack Obama? How can it be that this matter didn't make the cut?
The Democrats used much of their questioning time to heap praise upon Mr. Holder. They all repeated the same trope: We'll show the world that America can conduct these trials openly in criminal courts. And we'll be successful, even as we convey rights to the defendants that are not warranted.
Since when has "show the world" been a primary objective?
No thoughtful questions from the majority party regarding this decision were forthcoming. Their questions mostly addressed other matters. They discussed overcrowding in our prisons (too many drug criminals being sentenced), asked why none of the $500 million in appropriations have helped the rape-kit processing backlog, and inquired about when recommendations for additional staff would be presented for confirmation. Their lack of attention to the pressing matter at hand suggested apathy.
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) did ask a question about how much the trials will cost. Clearly there will be expense incurred if this does go to trial in New York City. The early, and by no means complete, estimate is that it will cost $75 million for the first year. Mr. Schumer did not express any concern about the costs involved but only asked the attorney general for assurance that all would be covered by federal funds. This question was promptly and explicitly answered in the affirmative by Mr. Holder. After all, this is a rather modest amount by Washington standards.
Our enemies must be thrilled. We are willingly handing them an opportunity to inflict economic harm on New York City, keep their cause in the headlines, gather new intelligence, create new terror strategies, stimulate recruiting, celebrate new-found rights, and foist a fresh round of pain and suffering upon their victims.
This decision is September 11, the sequel. It is my hope that Mr. Holder will reconsider.
A final observation: During the proceedings a young lady, dutifully attentive, sat with a stack of paper about 15 inches high on her lap. The papers contained names, single spaced, of some 100,000 people who signed a letter in opposition to this decision. This young woman, Jill Regan, lost her dad, Donald J. Regan, FDNY of the Bronx, who died trying to save others on 9/11. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Al.) asked that those names be entered into the record at the end of the session. It was agreed, but by that time the chairmen and most of the Democrats were already gone. I grieved for her—and for all of us—anew.
Wild Thing's comment.......
David Beamer was so good on FOX yesterday, he speaks from the heart.
Thank you, Mr. Beamer, for your courage and your keen perceptions. You are right on the money. Prayers always for you, your family and the United States of America. We have a war on our hands, on many fronts now.
Obama and Holder, and the entire Obama administration from the top down, are hostile to the United States.
There is no good outcome from this decision; not for the country, not for the victims or their families, and certainly not for our men in uniform.
This is no longer about possibilities we hope and pray to avoid. It is here. It is now. This is the real deal.
November 19, 2009
Obama The Muslim in D.C. Trying to Protect His Muslim Brother Nidal Malik Hasan Held Behind Bars
Following Levin, Reyes Postpones House Intel Committee Briefing on Fort Hood
Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Silvestre Reyes (D-TX) issued the following statement regarding the postponement of a full Committee briefing on information related to the Fort Hood shooting: Here's the full text:
"Due to the high visibility of the issues surrounding the tragic event at Fort Hood, the President has instructed the National Security Council to assume control of all informational briefings. The NSC has directed that the leadership, as well as the chairmen and ranking minority members of the relevant congressional committees receive briefings first.
"I have been told that the Director of National Intelligence is still committed to providing the full membership a briefing on the activities within the jurisdiction of this Committee. I believe that this will occur, and I will push to schedule a briefing before the end of this week."
Just yesterday, Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) postponed the Senate Armed Services Committee’s scheduled briefing on Fort Hood in accordance with President Obama’s request for Congress to await the results of military and law enforcement inquiries.
Fort Hood attack likely Islamist terrorism, Cornyn and Lieberman say
Senator Cornyn joins Senator Lieberman in calling Ft. Hood attack terrorism.
Sen. John Cornyn of Texas is joining Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., in publicly declaring that the attack on Fort Hood is likely an act of Islamist terrorism.
Cornyn wrote a letter to President Barack Obama today urging the White House not to let "political correctness" get in the way of investigating the Nov. 5 massacre that left 13 people dead and more than 30 wounded. "As more and more facts surrounding the Fort Hood attack surface, it looks increasingly probable that the alleged attacker, Major Nidal Hasan, heeded these terrorist calls to violence, compelled by a fanatical religious ideology. If Islamist terrorism was the driving force behind the senseless violence at Fort Hood, as it seems to be, this attack must serve as a call to action for the federal government," Cornyn wrote.
"Evidence indicating that terrorist activity may be in the offing must always be run to ground; federal agencies must follow every lead and look into every possible threat, regardless of whose particular sensitivities might be offended in the process," he continued.
"We must never allow the safety of those who defend our freedom to be made a secondary priority to political correctness."
~ snipet ~
Lieberman’s committee is planning a hearing on the Fort Hood mass shooting on Thursday. His repeated assertions that the attack by accused gunman Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is likely an act of terrorism has been repeatedly criticized by Democrats.
White House won't provide witnesses for Fort Hood hearing
Obama stonewalls. Lieberman rebuffed.: White House won't provide witnesses for Ft Hood hearing.
The first public congressional hearing on the Fort Hood attack will not include testimony from any current federal law enforcement, military or intelligence officials because the Obama administration "declined to provide any" such witnesses, according to a Senate committee source.
~ snipet ~
But the list does not include anyone actively involved in investigating the Fort Hood attack, or anyone who might have been responsible for decisions made by various government agencies before the attack about whether to investigate the shooting suspect, Nidal Hasan. The Senate committee source said HSGAC Chairman Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) had hoped to have witnesses from the FBI and the U.S. Army, but was rebuffed in his requests.
Separately, a closed-door Senate Armed Services Committee briefing on the status of the Fort Hood investigation has been postponed, after initially being scheduled for Monday afternoon.
Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the Army's chief of staff, is forming a panel to look closely at the military career of Maj. Nidal M. Hasan, the man accused in the Ft Hood shootings and probe whether warning signs were missed, a senior Army official said Monday.
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"Casey is looking at a panel that will look longitudinally across Hasan's entire career to figure out how did this happen.
CAIR: Too soon for Ft. Hood ‘rush to judgment’
.....CAIR is a front group for the muslim terrorists. They should be rounded up and deported. ~ Wild Thing
Council for American-Islamic Relations national communications director Ibrahim Hooper said Sunday that the U.S. still isn't clear if the shootings at Fort Hood were an act of terrorism.
"To call it an act of terror is to jump to conclusions, to rush to judgment," Hooper said in an appearance on TV One’s "Washington Watch."
"Why can't the killer at Fort Hood just be a crazy guy? Don't take it out on American Muslims because you're upset about another issue," he said in response to questions the shooting has raised about American Muslims in the U.S. Army.
Appearing Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani offered such a judgment, saying the Obama administration has been “very slow to react to the whole situation with Major Hasan, which was clearly a terrorist act in the name of Islamic terrorism.”
“I would want to see the facts develop,” Giuliani said. “I think the administration has been very slow to come to the conclusion that Major Hasan was an Islamic extremist terrorist. I mean, the reality is, he announced "Allah akbar" when he shot and killed those people. He was communicating with a cleric who was encouraging terrorism. And now it turns out he has -- he even has business cards saying 'solder of Allah.'"
Wild Thing's comment.......
This move stinks to high heaven! Obama wants to control the spin put on the updates that go out. Hasan was part of Obama's transition team as well. I posted about that before.
Obama and Erick Holder assign the 9/11 plotters to the civilian courts when it was, in his eyes, politically convenient to do so. Then he assigns the Intelligence arm of the government to a crime Obama really doesn't want the world to see as a national security issue.
I feel a sense of utter shock and sadness for our service people who were under this terrorist’s psychiatric care.
And now we are finding out he was pushing to charge his “patients” with war crimes.
Can you imagine??!! Can you imagine working through mental anguish under the wolf terrorist invited in by a PC program of “inclusion”???!!
Can you imagine pledging your life to uphold the Constitution then watch who is elected President and then have a Psychiatrist tell you that what you are trained to do is now a “war crime”.
I hope some guardian angels were watching over the people who were funneled to this evil man. I hope that they could see the devil even in their need for healing and fight off the torture.
Prayers and support for all those who have been horribly damaged by this madness we call “tolerance” and other doubleplusungood terms.
Obama: "We are 5 days from FUNDAMENTALly transforming America"
Barack Obama at the University of Missouri in Columbia on Thursday, October 30th, 5 days before the election.
Lindsey Graham Questions Eric Holder Avout Trial To Be in New York
Senator Lindsey Graham Asks Eric Holder Questions About The Trial In New York
Graham: "Under domestic criminal law, the moment the person is in the hands of the United States government they're entitled to be told they have a right to a lawyer and can remain silent, and if we go down that road, we are gonna make this country less safe"
Here's a little reminder of Eric Holder who was Deputy Attorney General under Janet Reno in 1999 answering questions about the clemency of the 16 FALN terrorists before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Notice the LACK of concern Eric Holder has for this woman that lost her son on Flight 93 on 9-11.~ Wild Thing
"I am afraid that the theatrics are gonna take over at this point and I very much regret that"
" I take great exception to the decision to give short shrift to the military commissions and to put the five most heinous criminals and war criminals into court in New York City, an emotional Alice Hoagland, whose son Mark Bingham died on hijacked United Flight 93, told Holder. It will give these ugly people, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh especially, very eloquent access to all the media sources in the United States."
Wild Thing's comment........
I an NO fan of Graham but I have to say that this is outstanding how he questinos Holder about the trial for Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
Perhaps Lindsey got wind of Palin’s remark she gave TWS in their interview?....lol
“As for Lindsey, individually, I really like him,” she says. “His constituents may want to send him a message to say ‘shore it up’ and come back to some more commonsense, conservative ideals.”
Either way....attacking Holder now is paramount to preventing this tragedy part deux.
November 18, 2009
12 Brave Men and Women Needed For Trial of Evil 9/11 Mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed
Charles Krauthammer On Why Terror Trials In Civilian Courts Is A Terrible Idea
12 brave men and women needed for trial of evil 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed
BY Elizabeth Hays
Wanted: 12 New Yorkers willing to put their lives on hold - and maybe on the line - to try the mastermind behind the biggest crime in U.S. history.
The jury ultimately chosen to hear the case against confessed 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will face months of heart-wrenching testimony amid air-tight security.
In the 2006 trial of Sept. 11 plotter Zacarias Moussaoui in Virginia, jurors were picked up and dropped off at constantly changing rendezvous spots far from the courthouse and whisked inside as snipers and a wall of blazers stood by.
It was part of an elaborate security system set up to protect the jurors from reprisals or tampering and keep their identities secret, even from the judge.
"To this day I wouldn't be able to tell you who any of the jurors were," said Moussaoui's lawyer, Edward MacMahon, adding that graphic testimony about the thousands of victims killed in the attacks also took a toll on jurors. "I've read that some of the jurors felt it was like going to 10 funerals a day."
Anonymous Juror 526 from the Moussaoui trial, the lone dissenter against the death penalty, wrote afterward that the trial was "emotionally overwhelming."
"Most of us shared in the nightmares described by so many family members," he wrote in a letter posted on the Families of Sept. 11 Web site. He said he and other jurors suffered migraines, anxiety and insomnia. "The centerpiece of our jury room table was a bowl of Tylenol."
Legal experts said it is too soon to know the precise details of Mohammed's trial in Manhattan, which is still months away.
Court officials will certainly go to great lengths to protect jurors' identities.
"If they use anonymity for mid-level coke dealers they're certainly going to use it here," said lawyer Ron Kuby, who defended Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman.
Christopher Lofting, 73, jury foreman in the July 2001 trial of convicted terrorist Mokhtar Haouari in Manhattan, said the high-stakes trial will certainly trigger an avalanche of excuses from potential jurors terrified of being picked.
"In my case they had a hell of a time getting together a jury that wanted to play and this was all pre-9/11," he said. "Getting the jury together this time is going to be hell on wheels."
Despite the challenges, experts said the trial will give jurors a chance to be part of history.
"It'll be a front row seat to the largest criminal case in American history," Kuby said. "They will definitely have something to tell their grandchildren about."
Wild Thing's comment........
VERY scary indeed to be picked to be on the jury.l would not do it.
November 15, 2009
Kruathammer Discusses Giving Khalid Shaikh Mohammed Rights of An American Citizen
This is all show and it's gonna be a show trial which the terrorists will conduct against us, against the Bush Adm. and the methods, secondly, it's gonna be the second half of the terror attack, the first half is you attack and you kill, you become notorious and you cause pain and sensation. Then a decade later you appear at the scene of the crime and you have the biggest forum in the world to explain and proclaim the ideology behind it, this is a travesty.
Wild Thing's comment.......
Krauthammer knows his stuff. Nice to see that he’s not taking the politically correct route.
He eviscerates President Obama's and AG Eric Holder's decision to give the terrorists responsible for 9-11 the same rights as American citizens.
“I’m not sure that FDR, or Lincoln, or any of our war presidents, or Johnson, or Kennedy would take a combatant and give him the constitutional rights of an American citizen and give him a trial in civilian court. That doesn’t happen.”
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Proud of His Terrorist Acts
What they make Daniel Pearl say and also KSM’s confession to the kidnap and beheading.
KHALID SHEIKH MOHAMMED, al Qaeda mastermind of 9/11, divulged information –he did ithis only after he had been waterboarded – that allowed the U.S. government to stop a planned terrorist attack on Los Angeles.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed proudly confessed to a U.S. military tribunal that he “decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl,” more than five years after the American reporter’s execution was shown in a video, according to a transcript released by the Pentagon.
President Bush admitted that he personally authorized the waterboarding of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
He said he personally asked what tools were available to use on him, and sought legal approval for waterboarding him:
Wild Thing's comment......
Thank you President Bush!
This is their way to attack the Bush administration without, they think, getting their hands dirty.
It could jeopardize counterterror programs and thereby endanger Americans. On Fox and Friends Friday morning that said that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the other 4 will be on American soil, they get full Constitutional rights. They will whine about how tortured they were..waterboarding, etc.
And in a trial the bad guy is supposed to be judged by their piers.Now how th eheck does this work with these terrorists? Do they bring in Taliban or al-quada to sit in the jury to be his piers? How stupid is that!
November 14, 2009
Obama Will Send 9-11 Mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and Four Other Gitmo Detainees to NY for Civilian Court
The Obama Administration will send 9-11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and four other Gitmo detainees to New York to face trial in a civilian court.
In the biggest trial for the age of terrorism, the professed 9/11 mastermind and four alleged henchmen will be hauled before a civilian court on American soil, barely a thousand yards from the site of the World Trade Center's twin towers they are accused of destroying.
Attorney General Eric Holder announced the decision Friday to bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to trial at a lower Manhattan courthouse.
It's a risky move. Trying the men in civilian court will bar evidence obtained under duress and complicate a case where anything short of slam-dunk convictions will empower President Barack Obama's critics.
Lawyers for the accused will almost certainly try to have charges thrown out based on the rough treatment of the detainees at the hands of U.S. interrogators, including the repeated waterboarding, or simulated drowning, of Mohammed.
"We have a president who doesn't know we're at war," said Debra Burlingame, whose brother, Charles Burlingame, had been the pilot of the hijacked plane that crashed into the Pentagon. She said she was sickened by "the prospect of these barbarians being turned into victims by their attorneys."
The New York case may also force the court system to confront a host of difficult legal issues surrounding counter-terrorism programs begun after the 2001 attacks, including the harsh interrogation techniques once used on some of the suspects while in CIA custody. The most severe method — waterboarding, or simulated drowning — was used on Mohammed 183 times in 2003, before the practice was banned.
Wild Thing's comment..........
I remember a member of Al Qaeda saying ‘we will use your system against you’.
Obama is doing just that. How much more evidence do people need this usurper is out to destroy our Republic.
This is going to be a trial of the Bush Administration, the CIA , FBI and our troops too. This will lay our entire intelligence services wide open in discovery.
Fox this morning they said the terrorists can be released on a technicality. Boehner said Americans should fear that is even a possiblity .
I spoke with our nephew that is a firefighter in New York. He lost 11 of his fellow fighters on 9-11 including 2 Chiefs. We knew them too, they came to visit us . He said he and his other firemen are as furious as can be about this like we are.
On our own soil, and will now be tried in a courtroom down the street from the World Trade Center and these terrorists will have civilian court?????? OMG!
In an appearance on Fox News Channel this afternoon, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani said the move was irresponsible.
“It’s not inconceivable that the case could be thrown out,” he said.
Giuliani, who was mayor on 9/11, said he disagrees with Bloomberg.
“These are war criminals. This was an act of war. An act of terror,” he said. “They should be tried in a military tribunal.”
LOOK AT THIS IDIOT!
In a statement, Mayor Bloomberg said he supports the move.
“I support the Obama administration’s decision to prosecute 9/11 terrorists here in New York. It is fitting that 9/11 suspects face justice near the World Trade Center site where so many New Yorkers were murdered,” he said.
One week ago, Dems blocked DeMint Amendment to extend ban on GITMO detainees being brought to U.S. soil .
Demint statement on bringing terrorists into American courtrooms:
DeMint senate.gov"This senseless decision puts more Americans at risk for future terrorist attacks and is completely unnecessary. Americans have already invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Guantanamo Bay where these violent radicals can be detained and safely tried by military commissions away from our communities.
Why would our President send terrorist masterminds away from an island fortress off our shores to trials in American courtrooms that will now become targets for enemy combatants? Further, by trying these terrorists in open courts, the same people that murdered thousands of our countrymen will now have access to highly classified intelligence that could further risk our security. The President’s decision is naive and reckless."