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August 13, 2009

Will Americans follow orders to take flu shots? (H1N1.. 'swine flu' vaccine)

Avian flu viruses like this one have raised worries in the past similar to those being raised by this year's swine flu

Will Americans follow orders to take flu shots?

Alarmist language sparking fears of mandatory vaccinations, quarantines


By Bob Unruh

Alarmist language over possible outbreaks of swine flu as well as a series of moves by the federal government are fueling fears federal agents will soon be forcing citizens to be vaccinated – prompting one political party to launch a pre-emptive defense against any such effort.

The Constitution Party, a fast-growing alternative to the dominant Democratic and Republican parties in many elections, has come out strongly in opposition to any "mandatory injections" of " potential toxic (H1N1) 'swine flu' vaccine."

Citing the Fourth Amendment, which says, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons … shall not be violated," Constitution Party National Committee Chairman Jim Clymer said the issue isn't that complex.
"It comes down to the most fundamental of all freedoms. If government can force potentially dangerous substances into our bodies what, then, can't government do to us?" he said.
"Whether mandated by the federal government, the individual states such as Massachusetts or international organizations like the World Health Organization or the United Nations, forcing potentially dangerous chemicals on a free people is tyranny," Clymer said.

The Constitution Party cited the research of Bill Sardi, who noted the "cozy relationship" where the WHO "prematurely" declares a pandemic, forcing dozens of governments to buy flu vaccines. Then, he wrote, public health authorities invoke mandatory vaccination programs for children.

The enriched vaccine makers then "funnel profits back to the politicians."

The party noted the alarmist behavior on the part of the U.S. Departments of Health and Homeland Security, which earlier this year when "several people" were "diagnosed" with swine flu, declared a national public health emergency.

When that was declared in April, schools were closed, people quarantined and pharmaceutical companies awarded billion dollar contracts, the party explained.

Condemnation also has come from Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who cited the swine flu vaccination program in 1976. The effort killed more than two dozen people – not from the flu but from the vaccine.

Paul said he was concerned that "nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a 'potential pandemic flu' which could result in mandatory vaccinations for no discernable reason other than to enrich the pharmaceutical companies that make the vaccine."
Clymer also expressed concern about turning over decisions inside the United States to an international organization like the WHO. Adding other pieces to the puzzle, such as the Pentagon's involvement with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, just adds to his worries, he said.

According to a Fox report, the Pentagon is planning to make available military troops – if they are needed – to help FEMA respond to a flu outbreak.

The report said Defense Secretary Robert Gates is preparing to sign an order letting the military set up regional teams to help FEMA.

"Americans should be gravely concerned when all the pieces are put together," Clymer said. "We have a strain of flu which has produced mild symptoms so far, and yet it appears there's a well-orchestrated world-wide effort to put draconian measures in place for a 'pandemic.'"

Clymer also cited the WHO recommendations that would provide, essentially, for an indefinite stay in a quarantine camp for those who refuse a vaccination. He said the procedures that follow a "Level 6 Pandemic" allow international precedent to override U.S. constitutional guarantees of freedom.

The party statement said, "All liberty-loving Americans should shudder at the WHO directives which state: 'During a pandemic, it may be necessary to overrule existing legislation or (individual) human rights. Examples are the enforcement of quarantine (overruling individual freedom of movement), use of privately owned buildings for hospitals, off-license use of drugs, compulsory vaccination or implementation of emergency shifts in essential services."
No such extraordinary efforts are needed, the Constitution Party said, because according to the Centers for Disease Control, "the fear mongering regarding this flu is not warranted by forensic evidence that H1N1 is the potentially devastating plague the hyperbole purports it to be."

According to the Fox report, the bird flu frenzy during 2005 prompted the Bush administration to add influenza to the government's list of diseases for which quarantines are allowed, creating a path through which people who exhibit symptoms could be detained by government order.

Governors, however, according to a report from The Hill, are objecting to the potential involvement of the feds.

Gov. Jim Douglas, R-Vermont, head of the National Governors Association, and Vice Chairman Gov. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., wrote, "We are concerned that the legislative proposal … would invite confusion on critical command and control issues, complicate interagency planning, establish stove-piped response efforts, and interfere with governors’ constitutional responsibilities to ensure the safety and security of their citizens," Douglas and Manchin wrote to Paul Stockton, assistant secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and America's Security Affairs.
And the Fox report said even a spokesman for the Defense Department acknowledged the concerns "about civil liberties and the use of force."
Attorney Robert L. Shannon told the network the military generally isn't allowed to intervene in peoples' lives, "But it's important to remember that the president has the option and authority to use federal troops in a national emergency."

An ACLU spokesman told Fox that the idea of forced vaccinations or detentions would raise constitutional questions, and Michel Chossudovsky, writing on the Global Research website, said the implications are "far-reaching."

"The decision points toward the establishment of a police state," he said.

Meanwhile, the Associated Press is reporting that Americans in eight cities are preparing to take a swine flu vaccine that still is in the testing stages, in manufacturers' hopes that the vaccine will be on the market soon.

This is a snipet from an article HERE

The following is an incomplete (but significant) list of vaccine ingredients: GlaxoSmithKline Plc based in London Vaccine Ingredients: Aluminum adjuvant: an aluminum-containing compound. It releases the antigen [an active substance that is capable of generating an enhanced immune response from the body, and then reacting with the products from that response], causing strong, enhanced antibody response what Dr. Mercola calls a "turbo-charge" to the body's immune system. It has been linked to Gulf War Syndrome that has caused tremendous permanent damage to thousands of military.(7) Aluminum is a known cause of cognitive dysfunction.

AS03: The company's proprietary squalene adjuvant. (See: squalene below)

Daronrix: Glaxo's H5N1 bird flu vaccine:

Disodium phosphate: a white powder, water-soluble salt. It is used as an anti-caking additive in powdered products. This inorganic chemical is also used as a fungicide and microbiocide.

Formaldehyde: a known carcinogen and reproductive or developmental toxicant. Interestingly, according to PANNA, in 2007, California used 30,328 pounds of this carcinogen, as a microbiocide [a drug or other agent that can kill microbes] on the top 50 crops grown in the state.(8)

Octoxynol 10: (Also known as Triton X-100) A detergent, emulsifier, wetting and defoaming agent. [Octoxynol-9 is a spermatocide.] It can alter metabolic activity, damage membranes, and cause a rapid decline in cell function.

Polysorbate 80: Also known as Tween 80. It is used as an emulsifier in cosmetics, and is one of the ingredients in Gardasil, the cervical cancer vaccine that is being mandated promoted for teen-age girls. This ingredient is known to cause infertility, grand mal convulsions, spontaneous abortions, and life-threatening anaphylactic shock. So far, 28 Gardasil deaths have been reported.

Sodium Chloride: Refined table salt. Salt is a naturally occurring complex mineral that balances the water inside and outside our cells. Refined salt, sodium chloride, is chemically treated and contains many other hidden chemicals that destroy natural salt's healing abilities. The body can get most of its daily requirement by eating a well-balanced, organic diet --eliminating processed foods. A good source is untreated, natural sea salt.

Squalene: A natural oil found in sharks (mostly found in their livers) and humans. The American Journal of Pathology (2000) reported that rats injected with squalene triggered "chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation," i.e., rheumatoid arthritis. How will this affect people who already have an immune inflammation, or will it cause untold new cases (lupus, chronic fatigue)? Squalene is being added to all new vaccines. It is linked to the thousands of military who have contracted "Gulf War Syndrome" and have suffered irreparable auto-immune damage, including lupis, multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, and rheumatoid arthritis.(9)

Thimersol: (MERCURY). Put in all multiple doses of vaccines. Any amount of mercury is highly toxic. There is no safe level. This is has been repeatedly linked to the increasing rates of autism, multiple sclerosis, and ADD.(10)

A little more on The Effects of Squalene Adjuvant

Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time according to a 2000 article in The American Journal of Pathology. The study demonstrated that a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered a chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation, also known as rheumatoid arthritis. The researchers concluded the study raised questions about the role of adjuvants in chronic inflammatory diseases.

Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.

The difference between "good" and a "bad" squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system, according to award-winning investigative journalist Gary Matsumoto, who explains there is a "close match between the squalene-induced diseases in animals and those observed in humans injected with this oil: rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus erythematosus."

So squalene which causes your body to attack parts of your nervous system.


Wild Thing's comment.......

I think it is important we know what we are putting into our bodies. Over the years Nicholas has always gotten a flu shot and I think I have only done it 5 times in the last 25 years.

So right now I have no idea what I will do. I do know I don't like the stuff that it says are the ingredients, that scares me.


....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at August 13, 2009 06:45 AM


I don't need the government to tell me to get a flu shot. I get it because I want to.

Posted by: Lynn at August 13, 2009 08:26 AM

I have seen the worst of what flu can do, so I get a shot every year. This year will be no exception. I don't have great fears of a pandemic. You know that we were not supposed to survive Y2K, giant asteroids, bird flu and other scares. I will get my flu shot with the thought in mind of trying to avoid the normal annual flu.

Also, Ron Paul is not exactly a man I would follow anywhere. He is quite over the top.

Posted by: TomR at August 13, 2009 02:57 PM

Lynn, that is the part that really
ticks me off. Let us decide.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 13, 2009 06:59 PM

Tom, thank you so much about the flu
shot. Your right about those things that's
for sure. I talked to Nicholas about it
today and he said he is getting one as
he always does. Then he reminded me of how
little sleep I get now giggle with the blog
and that I would need all the help I can
get to not get sick. So I will be getting
one too, I just feel icky about the stuff
in it. But nothing is perfect. haha

I agree about Ron Paul too.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 13, 2009 07:06 PM

I get one because I am old and it helps to prevent the flu. Get one every year and it builds up. and Every 5 years get a pneumoVax, helps prevent 23 Baterial strains of Pneumonia, which normally acompanies the flu. Although there is virial pneumonia but the risks is cut way down by both shots.

H1N1 is suppose to be mild and so far has not mutated to anything greater than it already has. The pandemic fears are generated by the Administration and WHO and the CDC all UN or democrat fear prostitution.

A case in point, England under the Obamacare, has a higher rate of coming down with this h1n1 flu than us, gee, i wonder why that is, couldn't be that we have the best Health Care in the world, ergo, the Healthiest People ? Could it. With Mexico there is no debate, but England is not quite as backward as Mexico. so go figure why we need Socialized Medicine.

Posted by: Mark at August 13, 2009 09:19 PM

I'm apparently hard to kill because I haven't had a cold or the flu for over 25 years. I'm not going to get the shots, but I can see why other's should.

I wonder sometimes if its a manufactured crisis. I also wonder what they are doing to little girls insisting they should have that Gardasil shot. Maybe it's good, maybe we don't know what it will do in a few years down the road.

Main thing is though, it should be a person's choice.

Posted by: Eden at August 13, 2009 10:08 PM

Mark, thank you so much.

I got the pneumoVax one and that one is
supposed to last I am not sure I think
they said 5 years or something.

But the flu shot, yes I will give it
a yes this time. I don't want to get

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 14, 2009 01:50 AM

Eden, giggle. you are so funny, that
is cute. I am very glad you are hard
to kill.

I agree soooo much, it should not be
forced on anyone. That is wrong, and
people should be able to decide for

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 14, 2009 01:52 AM

WT my wife won't get a flu shot, the Hospital reccommends them but she refuses. The Nurse, Miss know it all.

About 5 years ago we both came down with a mild case of it and it happened again the next year. then i decided to get the shot. My wife, said, Oh you get the flu from that. I said, you know better than that the virus is already dead and can't give you the flu, at least this is the purvailing opinion among doctors. To this day she refuses to get a flu shot. So when I went to the doctors office she said give him a pnuemovax too, and they did. but she got none.

Since then I get one every year.

Posted by: Mark at August 14, 2009 07:27 AM

Mark, thank you.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 14, 2009 04:32 PM