May 17, 2009
Incompetent and Liar Nancy Pelosi
Waterboarding allegedly ordered by Leon Panetta .
Allegedly the "torturers" were heard singing an improvised "beer" song: 99 bottles of Perrier on the wall, 99 bottles of Perrier, take one down pass it around, 98 bottles of Perrier on the wall.
January 16, 2004
National Press Club
Note DATE above this is from 2004
QUESTION [Sam Husseini]: Ms. Pelosi, this is you on "Meet the Press" on November 17th, 2002, quote: "Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There's no question about that."
Wasn't it your job to ask questions about that? And doesn't that make you a rather weak person, in contrast to some of your colleagues in the House -- in the Democratic House -- who did ask those questions as the Bush administration pushed towards war, that you said, quote, "Saddam Hussein certainly has --"
PELOSI: I heard your question.
QUESTION: "-- chemical and biological weapons. There's no question about that," and none have been found?
PELOSI: That was the evidence is that Saddam Hussein had had chemical and biological weapons and he used them. However, that was when they were asking about nuclear, and I said there was no evidence of any nuclear weapons.
In fact, thank you for bringing up this question, because you give me an opportunity to say that, as the senior Democrat on the Intelligence Committee in the debate leading up to the vote, I said that the intelligence does not support the threat that the administration is putting forth in Iraq, and that while there may be chemical and biological weapons, because they're rampant in the region, there was no imminent threat that would justify our going to war; that we had not exhausted all of our remedies.
PELOSI: I want to also announce that my colleague on the Intelligence Committee, Congresswoman Jane Harman, the senior Democrat, will be making a speech, I think, noon in California to the World Affairs Council. They are questioning the national intelligence estimate and the intelligence going into the war.
But I voted against the war because I said the intelligence did not support the threat. Sixty percent of the House Democrats voted against the war. And that is my response to your question.
QUESTION: I'd just like to clarify, please, are you still not conceding that this is a false statement, to this day, that "Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons, there's no question about that?" Are you not conceding that that's a false statement?
PELOSI: The point is is there an imminent threat to the United States? Is there a nuclear plume? What I was responding to there is that the intelligence did not support the threat. And while you might concede that in the region there was programs to develop chemical and biological, there was no reason to go to war and we had not.
Now that is my response. If you want to ask it three times, that's up to the audience if they want --
MODERATOR: Thank you sir. Let's go to the next question please.
Nancy Pelosi Goes Into Hiding
By Emily Goodin
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) turned down invitations to be on several Sunday morning talk shows and is instead spending the weekend with her family.
The Speaker was invited to appear on NBC's "Meet the Press,” ABC's "This Week,” “Fox News Sunday” and CNN’s “State of the Union,” according to sources at the networks.One source said Pelosi (D-Calif.) will be attending her granddaughter's first communion in Phoenix on Sunday.
Pelosi's office confirmed she is with her family this weekend.
"We have turned down Sunday shows many, many times before," Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami said.
Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House, kept the pressure on in a CNN interview:
Newt Gingrich continued his attacks on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi Saturday, saying she "defamed everyone" in the intelligence community and he can't "see how she can serve as speaker if it turns out that she has lied about national security both to the House and to the rest of the country.”
"I would expect at that point a motion of censure, and I think under the rules of the House, you can't serve for the rest of that term if you've been censured," Gingrich, a former Republican speaker of the House, said in an interview with CNN.
Gingrich, R-Ga., said Pelosi, D-Calif., “has lied to the House” in claiming that she was never briefed by the CIA about the Bush administration’s use of waterboarding and other harsh tactics.
"I think she has lied to the House, and I think that the House has an absolute obligation to open an inquiry, and I hope there will be a resolution to investigate her. And I think this is a big deal. I don't think the Speaker of the House can lie to the country on national security matters,” Gingrich said.
He continued: "I think this is the most despicable, dishonest and vicious political effort I've seen in my lifetime."
"She is a trivial politician, viciously using partisanship for the narrowist of purposes, and she dishonors the Congress by her behavior."
"Speaker Pelosi's the big loser, because she either comes across as incompetent, or dishonest. Those are the only two defenses,” Gingrich said. “The fact is she either didn't do her job, or she did do her job and she's now afraid to tell the truth.”
Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued the following statement today in response to a message today to CIA Employees from Director Leon Panetta:
“We all share great respect for the dedicated men and women of the intelligence community who are deeply committed to the safety and security of the American people. My criticism of the manner in which the Bush Administration did not appropriately inform Congress is separate from my respect for those in the intelligence community who work to keep our country safe. What is important now is to be united in our commitment to ensuring the security of our country; that, and how Congress exercises its oversight responsibilities, will continue to be my focus as we move forward.”
Wild Thing's comment........
If things play out the way I suspect they will, Pelosi’s armor is going to look more like she took a direct hit from a late-model RPG.
"turned down invitations to be on several Sunday morning talk shows and is instead spending the weekend with her family"
She doesn't want to face any tough questions and besides right now she has both feet in her mouth.
Posted by Wild Thing at May 17, 2009 05:55 AM
Lying sack of dog doo!
This woman is so horribly bad and claims to be a Catholic? I don't think so. Christians don't act like her.
Yes, we ought to waterboard her. She agreed with the findings, she voted to go to war with Iran and now Bush is the bad guy? Excuse me? They destroyed Scooter Libby for less. Nixon did less and was ruined. Carter did more and did not get reelected (Thank God!). Clinton was the worst and got two terms. Where are our values? Up our butts?
Kick her ass out!!!!!!!!!!! Kick out Harry Reid while you're at it, too.
Posted by: Lynn at May 17, 2009 06:54 AM
Posted by: Gothguy at May 17, 2009 09:30 AM
You know what's surprising me in this thing? Leon Panetta, a Clinton crony, is defending the CIA, against Pelosi.
We must not forget folks that as Speaker of the House, she's 2nd in line to the Presidency, right behind Biden.
Posted by: BobF at May 17, 2009 09:34 AM
Seems like she has suddely become afraid of the press and the CIA. Maybe the press will go into one of it's feeding frenzies.
BobF. I am also surprised at Panetta. He may have a lot to hide and also be somewhat fearful of the CIA.
Posted by: TomR at May 17, 2009 11:47 AM
I hope she continues to deny her previous positions and obfuscate the issues. The discussion has turned from one of her honesty to a discussion of her ability to perform her duties as Speaker of the House.
She is digging a hole and doesn't seem to have a clue she is digging from the inside.
Posted by: Pete at May 17, 2009 01:16 PM
Oops!!! Striking the hornets nest is not a wise move yet nobody accused Pelosi of having much intellect. Panetta is indeed a surprise but bears watching, like Heinrich Himmler he has control of our Gestapo.
Once I worked in a high security area, across the street from the plant where I worked was security HQ, a single story metal roofed building. My tasks included maintaining, calibration and repair of the bolometers, stack gas sensors and that red flashing aircraft warning light atop the smoke stack. I took to putting a handful of gravel in my pocket before climbing the stack in my harness, once past the last landing it was steel rungs all the way to the top where the light was, clipped to that top rung, I could then take my gravel and throw it over onto the rent-a cop's roof, they'd come out just like those hornets, hot and pissed, never in all that time did they consider looking up at the stack, I wasn't visible anyway from my hanging perch well over 150 feet up but I got a lot of satisfaction by harassing them for a change.
You can bet more than Pelosi are squirming under the spotlight, :) :).
Posted by: Jack at May 17, 2009 02:17 PM
Yeah, Panetta has done that lately. Is there an ulterior motive here. Like obama's wants her under the Bus with all of his other white relatives ?
Something is going on for sure.
Posted by: Mark at May 17, 2009 03:12 PM
Jack, there is no way on God's Green Earth I would climb up a 150 foot smokestack...no, no, no. You're a braver man than me.
Posted by: BobF at May 17, 2009 04:04 PM
Heh Heh Bob, not at all brave, quite the contrary, 'twas my yob,!!! That's why pigeons can't fly very well, it scares the shit out of them!!! Me too!!! I was in a linemans local, the 13.8KV HV crap, working all the controls in a steam plant powerhouse. Highly puckered sometimes I might add, trying to disprove the laws of Murphy, Maxwell and Ohm, I was a young, recently returned adrenalin junkie Viet vet back then, resenting rent a cops and their overbearing BS.
Seems to me the brouhaha in Congress and the one surrounding the House speaker has something to do about past or historical events surrounding former president Bush and his administration, some of whom are still feeding at the public political trough.
"In physical science the first essential step in the direction of learning any subject is to find principles of numerical reckoning and practicable methods for measuring some quality connected with it. I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of Science, whatever the matter may be." ~ Lord Kelvin
With the above quote from William Thompson it is apparent that the measure of qualification to the politically correct office of Congress Person or Senator , even the Presidency has a rather nebulous standard of reference. Either the standards of ethics are set too high, or the standards of selction are set too low for those select candidates voted into office.
Therefore with an unwillingness and rigid refusal to establish the measure of competence, ethics or integrity - even coherence, for themselves in Congress it must be the fault of the other public service entities that neither of them measure up to the standards expected or set for each other inside their opposite entities.
In this case the CIA obviously has to lower it's standards to meet acceptance by those in Congress and the presidency then seek that universal standard level of the least common denominator as set forth in the United Nations and The Hague. No more recruiting God loving, America loving, ethical and moral candidates who are willing to die in gathering information to protect our nation and it's people.
All we have to do is ask Nancy for the truth and it is spoken, the messiah speaks from his oval office inside the great mosque on the hill, it's cast in stone, no questions allowed from followers, it's blasphemy to question authority!!! Thus there is no need for all those interfering lying CIA operatives. Speaking of measuring sticks, we are getting the shortest of the short end, and what about that odor? Love you all.
Posted by: Jack at May 17, 2009 05:16 PM
Lynn, good run down of Nixon, Carter and
Clinton. You are so right Lynn.
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 17, 2009 05:48 PM
Gothguy, she sure is,I wonder if she
will keep her position or not. Time
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 17, 2009 05:51 PM
BobF., I remember back awhile that
an article said Obama is not a big
fan of Pelosi, maybe the two egos
don't get along not sure.
The only thing I can think of is
now Leon works for Obama and he
wants to keep in good with him
or something. Since he has him now
with the CIA.
Just a guess, but yes your right it
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 17, 2009 05:56 PM
Tom, yes she has, I bet she didn't have a
relazing weekend. Having the CIA as an enemy
cannot feel good and she had an out when
she was asked a second time...are you
sure you want to say that about the CIA
and she said yes. hahahaha oh my gosh.
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 17, 2009 06:00 PM
Pete...."She is digging a hole and doesn't seem to have a clue she is digging from the inside."
That is exactly what she is doing.
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 17, 2009 06:04 PM
Jack, LOL I can just imagine how upset
they were and not see you too to know
where it was coming from.
I agree with BobF, I would not be able
to do 150 feet up.
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 17, 2009 06:15 PM