March 20, 2009
House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill aka The HR 1388 Bill, “Give” Act
As HR 1388/S 277 , the "GIVE Act " is on its way to the Senate, OBAMA says "It is time to STEP UP and SERVE" in a TV commerical announcing NEW Website.
So here he is with a NEW website before the Bill called S.277 (formerly HR1388) hits the Senate Floor. He is very eager.
House adopts plan for 'volunteer' corps
By Bob Unruh
The U.S. House of Representatives has approved a plan to set up a new "volunteer corps" and consider whether "a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people" should be developed.
The legislation also refers to "uniforms" that would be worn by the "volunteers" and the "need" for a "public service academy, a 4-year institution" to "focus on training" future "public sector leaders." The training, apparently, would occur at "campuses."
The vote yesterday came on H.R. 1388, which reauthorizes through 2014 the National and Community Service Act of 1990 and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973, acts that originally, among other programs, funded the AmeriCorps and the National Senior Service Corps.
It not only reauthorizes the programs, but also includes "new programs and studies" and is expected to be funded with an allocation of $6 billion over the next five years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
Many, however, are raising concerns that the program, which is intended to include 250,000 "volunteers," is the beginning of what President Obama called his "National Civilian Security Force" in a a speech last year in which he urged creating an organization as big and well-funded as the U.S. military. He has declined since then to elaborate.
The new bill specifically references the possibilities "if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service."
Such new requirements perhaps, the legislation notes, "would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds."
No one, apparently with the exception of infants, would be excluded:
"The means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding, and promoting service options for elementary and secondary school students, through service learning or other means, and by raising awareness of existing incentives."
According to a report by Canada Free Press, "'volunteerism' that kept America running since the days of its founding" would be "wiped out with the stroke of a pen."
"It becomes forced labor and like the practice of another era, presses American citizens of all ages and creeds, unknowingly into military service," the commentary said.
"On paper, H.R. 1388 is the 'Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act'; the more innocuous sounding 'The Give Act,' for short.
"The Give Act puts the finishing touches to Public Allies New Leadership for New Times, modeled after Saul Alinsky's 'Peoples Organizations' and operating under Michelle Obama," the commentary said.
"Michelle was also a pioneer in the social entrepreneur movement – leaders who create new approaches and organize to provide new solutions to social problems. Like most things Saul Alinsky, H.R. 1388 sounds noble in stating why wide-sweeping change is necessary," the commentary said.
"H.R. 1388 goes straight to the heart of volunteerism in America, impacting everything from the lemonade stands of neighborhood children, to the residents of senior citizens homes. … The Give Act puts tow-headed school children and silver-haired seniors in the official uniform of the new State, and encompasses every walk of life in main-street America," the commentary said. "Whether you are young or old, or firmly believe that volunteering means you are offering your time to the good of community work, you will be pressed into Obama's National Civilian Community Corps."
Groups of such "volunteers," would, under the legislation, be "grouped together as appropriate in campuses for operational, support, and boarding purposes. The Corps campus for a unit shall be in a facility or central location established as the operational headquarters and boarding place for the unit. … There shall be a superintendent for each camp."
The plan generated this concern from Resistnet.com: "This is the equivalent of brown shirts."
Another portion of the bill talks about a "service learning" plan that will be "a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency."
A forum participant noted, "I wonder what's going to happen to those who refused to 'volunteer.' Maybe they will be put into a different 'campus.' I guess we will soon find out."
Formal announcements about the plan suggested something far different, picking a provision far down in the 200 pages of legislation to highlight.
According to a Business Wire statement released by Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., the bill "would formally authorize federal support for establishing the anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks on America as a National Day of Service and Remembrance."
That provision is tucked into the far reaches of the legislation, but Schumer discussed it as if it were the primary point.
"I could not be more proud to work to pass this important provision," said Schumer. "September 11 should not only be a day for mourning – it should be a day to think about our neighbors, our community, and our country. We can take a tragic day in our nation's history and turn it into a force for good."
On the Albany Insanity blog, this concern was raised: "What gives the government the right to require individuals to give three years service under the guise of 'volunteer' service? It is not explicit exactly who is required but I think they get the bill passed and then iron out the details. It talks about uniforms and 'camps.' They revise the word 'camps' and call it 'campus.' There is language about Seniors and Community organizations."
This Bill is very long and very detailed.
HERE is another link to the Text of H.R. 1388 bill , this one might be easier to read, just give it a little time to load it is long, but this one has highlighted sections.
NATIONAL GIVE ACT H R 1388 Passed House 321-105
H R 1388 YEA-AND-NAY 18-Mar-2009 4:39 PM
BILL TITLE: Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act
FINAL VOTE RESULTS Roll Call You can see who voted for this communist bill
Now it iGoes to Senate
In case anyone was wondering it is in THIS bill that Obama has created his “National Civilian Community Corps”. Or “Obama’s SS” because that is EXACTLY what it will end up being. This is the corps that he no doubt wants to make mandatory... And regardless this is the corps he wants to be fully funded and AS STRONG as our military.
It is in this sectoin of the bill.
This is Subsection E as it appears and was passed by the House of Representatives:
‘SEC. 155. NATIONAL CIVILIAN COMMUNITY CORPS.’;
And for we baby boomers and those that are older the Senior citizens:
12) Whether current Federal volunteer programs are suited to address the special skills and needs of senior volunteers, and if not, how these programs can be improved such that the Federal Government can effectively promote service among the ‘baby boomer’ generation.
First Amendment down the toilet it goes????
H.Amdt. 49: Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence... Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing. An amendment to H.R. 1388: Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act. Offered: Mar 18, 2009 Sponsor: Rep. George Miller [D-CA] Actions: Mar 18, 2009: Amendment (A012) offered by Mr. Miller, George. Mar 18, 2009: On agreeing to the Miller, George amendment (A012) Agreed to by voice vote. For more information, see the the official record on THOMAS for H.Amdt. 49. See Text of amendment
Wild Thing's comment........
This is moving way too fast to keep up. I have never, in my life, seen anything like this.
“mandatory” “volunteer” corps....uuuuuuuuuugh
This is unConstitutional. I know, they don’t give a spit about the Constitution. I am just stunned at the number of (R)s that voted for it. 70 House Republicans voted for it. We need to clean house in 2010. I’m guessing not one of them read the d*mn thing. The way the dims have been shoving all these bills through so fast. If I was a congressman, I wouldn’t vote for anything that I did not understand or have not read.
And here is another thing about this in the bill.
Section6104 (b) 5-7, (5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service. (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
Let's say you have a daughter and she has to do this. She will not be going to some fun camp you have chosen, let's say one from your church or something. These camps "campuses" that Obama has in mind will be a mixed group I would suppose from all areas. Gang bangers, thugs, put in the same groups with innocent kids. This is a total nightmare it will be inflicting suffering and danger to the good people by the minority thugs and thugettes.
Also this and I truly do not see how this 3 or 4 year thing is possible even if a person was brain numb and wanted to do it. sheesh How is a person supposed to work and feed their families, and all the other things people do on their own, activities that have become apart of American life !
Plus the fact that Michelle Obama is involved in this makes me VERY nervous.
Obama and his ilk think of the citizens of our country as two legged live stock.
They assume that a Civilian Security Force will be the antidote for their fear of us.
“When governments fear the people there is liberty. When people fear the government, there is tyranny.” --Thomas Jefferson
....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
Posted by Wild Thing at March 20, 2009 06:50 AM
Hitler Jugend Bund der deutschen Arbeiterjugend, better known as the Hitler Youth.
From 1986 through 1995 I worked with a former Hitler youth, he was 12 when conscripted, he was taken prisoner after a fierce battle at a gun emplacement where he was forced to bring ammunition to the artillery fighting the Americans who won the fight. He was befriended by one of the soldiers who sponsored his becoming an American citizen. He told tales of the things they were forced to do, one of them was to rat out others, who were then summarily shot. Gunter was more American than native born by the way, I miss the guy.
This is right out of the Communist playbook of creating 'cells' amongst the population, separate the kids from parents, indoctrinate them then put them back to spy on the rest of us.
Posted by: Jack at March 20, 2009 09:04 AM
This is getting to be to much,
Will they be educating school children to turn in their parents, their neighbors if they don't agree with his Obamunist ideals?
An institution to train future leaders, WTF is that all about. Everyone should refuse serving in this POS legislation. They can't throw everyone in jail. Local and state law enforcement should refuse to enforce it.
Posted by: Bob A at March 20, 2009 09:04 AM
Children in the Soviet Union were taught to turn their parents in. Hitler youth were taught to turn their parents in. Will American children be taught to turn their parents in?
This indoctrination will start early in school and continue throughout high school and college. Service will be required for graduation of high school and college. Some schools already require community service in order to receive a diploma. My son had to do community service in the animal shelter prior to graduation.
Posted by: BobF at March 20, 2009 09:39 AM
While the media is focused on the red herring AIG bonus issue, they slipped this through. This has my wife scared to death. She feels that there is a lonely ice floe in her future.
My rep, JoAnn Emerson (R,MO) voted for it. I already told her after she voted for the SCHIP bill she had lost my vote. I sent an email to the local Republican committee suggesting that we look for a more conservative candidate. They haven't responded as of yet. Probably won't.
Maybe we can form a new party, the Torch and Pitchfork Party. (See Glenn Beck's website for the T-shirt)
Posted by: jim at March 20, 2009 09:51 AM
BobF, the indoctrination of our youth has been going on for quite some time. An example is the bowing at the feet of our new slave master O'Vomit. We are screwed until we take back our country.
Posted by: cuchieddie (VN66/68) at March 20, 2009 10:47 AM
And the rest of the country is going along with out a care in the world. Becuase nobody is aware of this atrocity...yet.
Posted by: Mark at March 20, 2009 11:25 AM
When they come to my house to demand that I "volunteer" for their cause, I will be telling them in no uncertain terms where they can put their program and uniforms!!! Probaly end up in jail but it will be worth it. I WILL NOT SERVE FOR THIS POS "ZERO"!!! I will die FREE - not a slave.
Mark, anybody that voted for this idiot doesn't care about being aware of the atrocity!! They are too consumed by his suave mannerisms - his promise of "hope" and "change"!! They are blind to what is going on as long as "Zero" continues to promise to take care of them!!! Stupid Stupid Stupid!!!!!!
I'll show them "volunterism" - right up their stupid ass!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: John at March 20, 2009 12:42 PM
All the representatives from my area voted against this bill except the one Black(Dem) rep.
This bill is the foundation for ultimate government indoctrination and control of every American. Marxism 101.
Saul must be very proud of his boy Obama. In just a few months he and his appointed crooks and a weak willed, self serving Congress will have reversed 230 years of a Constitutional Republic. The greatest experiment in human freedom and dignity comes to a selfish, stupid, criminal end.
Posted by: TomR at March 20, 2009 12:44 PM
Here is a copy of the letter I sent to my Senator for Indiana. May not do any good but I feel some better!!!
"Dear Senator Lugar:
I can not express my disdain for this bill enough. This bill is not good for America and you know it.
I have spent a large portion of my life volunteering for various community projects and causes. I don't need the Federal Government ordering me to "Volunteer"!!
I will resist this bill as much as I possibly can. If this bill passes, I will tell anyone telling me to "volunteer" to pack sand!! This is NOT Nazi Germany and we - THE PEOPLE - are NOT Brown Shirts!!!!
I emplore you to vote "NAY" on this bill!!! It is not good for America!! There are other ways to have people volunteer their time and services. It should NEVER be ORDERED or DEMANDED!!!! President Kennedy knew this when he formed the Peace Corps.
PLEASE DO NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS BILL!!
Thank you for your time.
Posted by: John at March 20, 2009 12:55 PM
So how does Mandatory equal Voluntary?
They will be issued uniforms; as they progress/advance in their Service to the Country will the shirts be Brown and then as they are promoted change to Black (color of SS uniform), are “Jack Boots” going to be issued at any time.
Is their training going to include how to be a Block Captain, so that they can turn in those where they live that do not believe in this BS indoctrination and what will happen to those people?
I served my Country for 33 years; they can kiss my ass if they think I will take part in this whether voluntary or mandatory.
I wonder how many Representatives actually READ each and every page of this Bill, or did they just vote on it with no knowledge of what is in it, which seems to be the norm now……
Posted by: John 5 (VN69/70) at March 20, 2009 04:32 PM
The Oxymoron Corp. or
The POR Corp. (Because Pelosi, Obama and Reid will be the beneficiaries of the labor.)
The ACORN Draft Act.
The Moderate Democrat Purge Act. Carter used the federally paid volunteers of VISTA to unseat moderate Democrats in favor of more leftist ones. This included the Democrat Governor of Arkansas for a McGovern Campaign manager Bill Clinton.
These are just the names for this unconstitutional monstrosity I thought of in five minutes. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Avitar at March 20, 2009 05:37 PM
Hey John if it comes to that and it is a question perhaps we will be cellmates. I have to wonder if he would have local law enforcement, state or federal enforce it. If I was a local law enforcement officer forced to take someone for this BS I would refuse. I hope it does not as it will make the civil war look like a picnic.
Posted by: Bob A at March 20, 2009 05:38 PM
ATTENTION messiah o'vomit - FUCK YOU!
Posted by: cuchieddie (VN66/68) at March 20, 2009 06:58 PM
Cuchieddie..... I Second That !!!!!!
Posted by: RAC at March 20, 2009 08:54 PM
My newly elected RINO rep voted for this Obamanation and for SCHIP. I will work to get his lame ass "primaried" -I would rather have a Demomarxist who is honest and forthright regarding his Marxism than a gutless wimp liberal who campains in a "safe" Republican district than tells his constituants to go to hell . Also:attention "Sista" Michelle : you will have to pry my cynicism along with my gun from my cold dead hands . Send President "X" back to Indonesia where he legally belongs...... "The Presidency.... a job Americans just won't do ?????"
Posted by: Willy at March 21, 2009 08:41 AM