Theodore's World: Obama administration accused of stonewalling in suit over downing of SEAL Team 6 chopper

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August 08, 2015

Obama administration accused of stonewalling in suit over downing of SEAL Team 6 chopper

Obama administration accused of stonewalling in suit over downing of SEAL Team 6 chopper

FOX News

Families of Navy SEAL Team 6 members believe their loved ones were turned into a Taliban target after President Obama revealed that members of the team were involved in the killing of Usama bin Laden.

The Obama administration was accused Thursday of ignoring a judge’s order to turn over documents in the downing of a helicopter that killed Navy SEALs from the unit that carried out the raid on Usama bin Laden.

Families of Navy SEAL Team 6 members and others killed in the attack marked the fourth anniversary of the Aug. 6, 2011, tragedy by blasting the government for stonewalling in a public records lawsuit filed by the watchdog group Freedom Watch, the Washington Times reported. All 38 people aboard the chopper, call sign Execution 17, were killed over the Wardak Province in Afghanistan, including 30 Americans.

“It has now been four years since Extortion 17 was shot down,” Doug Hamburger, whose son Patrick was killed, told the paper. “I find it quite disturbing that the government is not willing to give us the answers we deserve. I find it very irritating that we will not question the Afghans about their knowledge of what took place that night.”

The families believe SEAL TEAM 6 had been turned into a Taliban target after President Obama revealed that members of the team, though not the ones killed in the crash, were involved in the killing of bin Laden in Pakistan three months earlier.

They also believe that persons inside the Afghan National Security Forces may have tipped off the Taliban to the Chinook’s mission.

A Defense Department official told a House subcommittee last year there is no proof the mission was compromised by the Afghans.

A federal judge in February signed an order requiring the Obama administration to release documents on a continual basis through the spring and summer.

Freedom Watch’s Larry Klaymen told the Times that despite the order he’s gotten only 1 of 50 Pentagon documents the Justice Department has identified as relevant. He said the Justice Department set a new deadline for the release and then ignored it.

“They don’t even produce under their own self-imposed deadline,” he said. “We’re pleading with the judge to do something, and he’s just sitting on it.”

Wild Thing's comment.............

Obama sure does hate our military, he could care less, and he is the reason for many of their deaths. Stone walling BS…they are guilty and they are hiding it…pure and simple

Posted by Wild Thing at August 8, 2015 12:55 AM


Of course he compromised them. Once they released that they took out the Somali pirates and bin Laden, their theater of operation was known to the world.

This from Wikipedia

The United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group (NSWDG), or DEVGRU, is a U.S. Navy component of Joint Special Operations Command. It is often referred to as SEAL Team Six, the name of its predecessor which was officially disbanded in 1987.[1][2] DEVGRU is administratively supported by Naval Special Warfare Command and operationally commanded by the Joint Special Operations Command.

Posted by: BobF at August 8, 2015 09:58 AM

The best I have heard on this incident is that it was a scratch mission to help a Ranger unit under fire. Not a pre-planned mission. The SEALS and others were a volunteer reaction team assembled on the run.

There were no SOF choppers available from the 160 Avn Regt so they grabbed a standard CH47 and crew. This chopper crew was a NG outfit new in country. The reaction team flew into a fire fight and the chopper was not equipped with the special gear, night vision devices, armor or avionics that the SOF choppers had. That and the inexperienced aircraft crew who had not trained for special forces ops contributed to their flying straight into the firefight.

I would also say the RPG strike was a lucky hit. I would imagine lots of RPGs were fired at the chopper noise and one hit. Also contributing was the fact the inexperienced crew were trying to land on a mountainside so when the chopper went down it could not land and so rolled down the mountainside resulting in the death of all aboard.

I just don't see this as an intentional ambush of SEAL Team 6. The Taliban could not have known who was aboard other than just Americans. Still, I'm glad obama is catching shit for this as his policies screwed over our war efforts and hobbled our military so they can not perform the missions.

Posted by: TomR,armed in Texas at August 8, 2015 02:01 PM