Theodore's World: Howard Fineman Tells Olbermann: Angry Democrats Not Only Said ‘F the President, But Also ’ ‘No F-ing Way,’ ‘He F-ed It Up’

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December 10, 2010

Howard Fineman Tells Olbermann: Angry Democrats Not Only Said ‘F the President, But Also ’ ‘No F-ing Way,’ ‘He F-ed It Up’

According to Howard Fineman, appearing on MSNBC’s “Countdown,” that was not the sole F-word expressed in disgust for the President at this contentious gathering .

KEITH OLBERMANN, HOST: In Nancy Pelosi’s last month as Speaker, and the last month of Democrat control of the House of Representatives, Democrats stood up against Republicans and against the President. Our fifth story tonight, after a rowdy, dramatic, closed door meeting of House Democrats in almost total unison on this issue, the Speaker of the House says the President’s tax plan will not get a vote in the House without changes, or as one unidentified Democratic member of Congress put it, according to the newspaper Roll Call, quote, “F the President,” unquote.

After discussing the state of the plan with Massachusetts Democrat Barney Frank, Olbermann brought in Fineman:

OLBERMANN: Let’s turn to MSNBC political analyst Howard Fineman, also senior political editor of the Huffington Post. Good evening, Howard.


OLBERMANN: This has been an extraordinary week in this debate between these two parts of the Democratic Party. But this quote, “F the President?” Kind of strong. What can you tell us about the, the, the Democratic revolt in the House this morning?

FINEMAN: Well, like Barney Frank, I wasn’t there either, but I did talk to a lot of people who were, and it was pretty startling. There was, there was sotto voce apparently, you know, not too loud, an “F the President.” There was a, there was a “No f-ing way.” There was a “He F-ed it up.” You know, we had a fairly liberal use of the F-word inside those closed doors, and there was a lot of anger. And, and, and frankly the President’s appearance before this same group of people yesterday, when he tried to explain his side of things, didn’t help. As a matter of fact, it just made things worse is my understanding of it. One member I talked to said if this is the way he’s going to negotiate with the Republicans, what’s he going to do with the Iranians, you know?


Wild Thing's comment.........

Wow haha they are really angry. So the fainting by voters, the worship of Obama has come to a screaching halt.

Posted by Wild Thing at December 10, 2010 02:50 AM


Rush has said they are in disarray, sheesh disarray is mild this is a melt down. Doncha, love it when a plan comes together.

Posted by: Mark at December 10, 2010 07:16 AM

Ah Yeah! There is so much class and dignity in the Dem Party.

Posted by: TomR,armed in Texas at December 10, 2010 09:55 AM

OMG, such gravitas!!!

Posted by: Jack at December 11, 2010 01:04 AM

Mark, it has me smiling sooo big.

Tom, exactly, what a difference. We have been thinking these things and maybe even some of our politicians feel the same way. But to be saying them in the meetings like the dems just did yeowie.

Jack, giggle.....sweet justice even a little is nice.

Posted by: Wild Thing at December 11, 2010 01:21 AM