Theodore's World: Why Repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?” by Colonel Bob Pappas, USMC, Retired

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May 27, 2010

Why Repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?” by Colonel Bob Pappas, USMC, Retired

by Colonel Bob Pappas, USMC, Retired

In a May 25th, 2010, Washington Post article titled “Obama backs 'don't ask, don't tell' compromise that could pave way for repeal” by Michael D. Shear and Ed O'Keefe, the writers state,

“President Obama has endorsed a "don't ask, don't tell" compromise between lawmakers and the Defense Department, the White House announced Monday, an agreement that may sidestep a key obstacle to repealing the military's policy banning gay men and lesbians from serving openly in the armed forces.”

The article quotes Senators Joe Lieberman and Patrick Murphy as saying,

"It is our firm belief that it is time to repeal this discriminatory policy that not only dishonors those who are willing to give their lives in service to their country but also prevents capable men and women with vital skills from serving in the armed forces,"

Obama’s national security mindset is to reduce U.S. military power ostensibly so that no enemy feels threatened and everyone can stand around holding hands and singing combayah. He does not understand and does not care about U.S. military capability; and that fact is abundantly evident by his budget proposals. One amendment to the Defense Bill calls for Obama to certify that there is would be no diminution of combat capability by allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military. Well? What kind of “mental giant,” given that he is an advocate for repealing “don’t ask, don’t tell” believes that he would certify otherwise?

Chairman of the JCS, Admiral Mike Mullen stated in February,

"I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."

Sorry Admiral, your bootlicking political correctness is showing! To state that homosexuals have to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens is absurd! First, they don’t have to lie; only an idiot would assert that! Second, what does keeping ones mouth closed about ones sexual predilections have to do with defending their fellow citizens?

Incidentally, the article does not inform readers what the “compromise” contains, nor does it quote there from. Perhaps the writers didn’t know when they collaborated on the article, or perhaps they did not want to inform the public of its content.

Homosexuals who desire to serve in the military have that right, and that right is inscribed in law commonly titled, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” The law generally states that no one may be asked about ones sexual predilections, and prohibits from service those who announce their homosexual conduct or are observed to engage in homosexual acts.

Any rational observer understands that laws are inherently discriminatory either favoring one person, or group over another, or restraining the same in some way. So, if “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is discriminatory it is in that context. THE FACT IS, HOMOSEXUALS HAVE THE RIGHT AND CAN SERVE! To suggest otherwise is patently false.

However, opposition to homosexuals serving openly in the military is for valid reasons having nothing to do with morality, commitment and/or patriotism, although those points could be logically supported. It has everything to do with living arrangements and the INHERENT PREDATORY NATURE OF HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOR. Men who look upon other men and women who regard other women as sex objects are sexually predatory. If it’s mutual, nobody cares, but becomes a serious problem when it isn’t.

If they want to serve, what is the problem with keeping their behavior to themselves? If it is a larger effort to force society to accept their behavior as normal, here is some counsel for the political class. There is no number of laws that can force acceptance and no matter what people may say, they will not accept homosexual behavior as normal. Liberals can sugar coat it, sweet talk it, sprinkle holy water on it, call it by anything other than what it is, and it is at the end of the day, abnormal and divisive behavior.

This essay is not an attempt to convince anyone to believe other than the way they want to believe, it is however an attempt to inject a dose of reality into the debate if Americans care about the Nation’s military capability.

People who live in ignorant bliss about the nature of combat and living conditions should put on a pack and pick up a rifle and accompany foot soldiers or Marines for three weeks or a month in combat; live with them in the division area while they rest up; and/or live with them in a barracks that has three or four to a room, or 30-50 in a squad bay sharing common hygiene facilities.

Thank you but no thanks to having a sexual predator making a pass at a normal male/female. Try putting an attractive female in a room with three or four hot blooded, testosterone pumped males; good idea? Hardly!

Aside: The Navy’s initiative, sparked no doubt by the Obama administration to put women on submarines is about a dumb as it gets!

Rational people must stop this nonsense and ask, “What is the purpose of the United States Armed Forces?” “Is it to engage the enemy in combat and prevail, or to be a laboratory for sex experimentation?” The answer to the first question is that it is to defend the Nation against external enemies and provide the raw power that underwrites U.S. foreign policy. To the second, given the history of the last seventy years, one wonders.

Ask any, except careerist military leaders like JCS Chairman, Mike Mullen and other likeminded politically motivated military leaders whose interest is the next star or in Mullen’s case just sucking up, and he will tell you that he has to spend too much time dealing with social issues that could be better spent leading, managing, training and fighting. Consider this present debate, and believe it, repeal will not end the debate even if sodomites win.

Passing a law and writing a regulation is simple by comparison to implementation of those laws and regulations.

Political correctness has gone amuck, and the COS of the Army is a bright and shining example of obscene stupidity. For instance, General Casey’s idiotic comment about his concern for the negative impact of Major Nidal Malik Hasan’s terrorist attack given its potential adverse impact on diversity in the Army/Armed Forces. Wow! Now there’s a General with the right priorities! No doubt a card carrying Obama man! Oh, how power perverts and corrupts.

There is no need to repeal a law that works.

Message for Congress: “Stop the idiocy and get on with business of winning wars when they become necessary and deterring others through readiness and strength. Repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” carries zero benefit except for a relative handful who could then troll openly to fulfill their homosexual lusts, but in the alternative would demonstrably undermine the efficiency and effectiveness of the Armed Forces and would further divide the nation.”

Folks, it’s time to crush the idiots and take this country back! November is coming!

Semper Fidelis


Wild Thing's comment........

Excellent article by the Col. Thank you Sir.

It would cause dissent in the ranks and it would undermine military discipline. That is simply reality.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67

Posted by Wild Thing at May 27, 2010 05:48 AM


Col. Pappas, as a Vietnam combat vet I can honestly say that Gen Casey along the entire Joint Chiefs and their POS CinC (criminal in charge) are rank bottom feeding punks.

Posted by: cuchieddie(Enemy of the State) at May 27, 2010 08:13 AM

Damn, these guys already have the cushy retirements as flag officers locked-in... so they'd get a bad performance evaluation and have to retire?

Posted by: Anonymous at May 27, 2010 09:32 AM

The system has worked well for 234 years why the need for this perverted change. Who do they think really needs a level playing field.

If some of the things Colonel Papas predicts happens you will see a re-inventing of the blanket party. And Sick bay will be loaded Monday morning with alot of broken bones, if not worse.

Colonel Papas also mentioned the Navy's decision to allow women on Submarines. This has got to be a joke. A bad joke but still ridiculous. Some of these Subs are submerged for 6 months at a time. Is this asking for trouble or what. One of the new Nuclear Carriers, forget which one, probably any ship with women abord, was called the "Love Boat", I mean WTF Can you imagine what will happen at the bottom of the ocean. This is crazy.

Posted by: Mark at May 27, 2010 02:33 PM

I served on One Tincan and 2 destroyer Tenders (Diver) and every one knew who the
Gays were.. One first Class Hospital corpsman would drool at short arms time. No one
Gave a damn.. A lot of Jokes were told about them.. We actually had more racial problems
than Gays. Fall out is a bitch, there is a decorated F-15 pilot who is going to have leave
because he is gay..a couple of Marines said if he was the pilot that saved their ass in Iraq
All they could say was thanks and they didn’t give a S*** what he was…

Posted by: Gator at May 28, 2010 11:54 PM