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November 28, 2009

Obama Considering To Allow U.S. Soldiers to Be Tried At Hague

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Obama and anyone that thinks it is ok to go after our troops in any way should be ..........well use your imaginaton and think of the worst punishment possible........the WORST!

Prosecuting American 'War Crimes'

The International Criminal Court claims jurisdiction over U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan.

The Wall Street Journal

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed “great regret” in August that the U.S. is not a signatory to the International Criminal Court (ICC). This has fueled speculation that the Obama administration may reverse another Bush policy and sign up for what could lead to the trial of Americans for war crimes in The Hague.

The ICC’s chief prosecutor, though, has no intention of waiting for Washington to submit to the court’s authority. Luis Moreno Ocampo says he already has jurisdiction—at least with respect to Afghanistan.

Because Kabul in 2003 ratified the Rome Statute—the ICC’s founding treaty—all soldiers on Afghan territory, even those from nontreaty countries, fall under the ICC’s oversight, Mr. Ocampo told me. And the chief prosecutor says he is already conducting a “preliminary examination” into whether NATO troops, including American soldiers, fighting the Taliban may have to be put in the dock.

“We have to check if crimes against humanity, war crimes or genocide have been committed in Afghanistan,” Mr. Ocampo told me. “There are serious allegations against the Taliban and al Qaeda and serious allegations about warlords, even against some who are connected with members of the government.” Taking up his inquiry of Allied soldiers, he added, “there are different reports about problems with bombings and there are also allegations about torture.”

It was clear who the targets of these particular inquiries are but the chief prosecutor shied away from spelling it out.

Asked repeatedly whether the examination of bombings and torture allegations refers to NATO and U.S. soldiers, Mr. Ocampo finally stated that “we are investigating whoever commits war crimes, including the group you mentioned.”

The fact that he avoided a straightforward "I am looking into possible war crimes committed by American soldiers" showed that Mr. Ocampo is aware of the enormity of crossing this legal and political bridge.

Mr. Ocampo remained tight-lipped about the specifics of his preliminary examination. Asked whether waterboarding—a practice that simulates drowning without causing lasting physical harm—is a form of torture produced a telling "no comment." Yet if the Obama administration considers this practice torture, one has to wonder if the ICC's chief prosecutor would give it his stamp of approval.

There is also the issue of whether Predator strikes of unmanned drones targeting terrorist leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan—as carried out in the very first week of the Obama presidency—are part of the bombings he's looking into. Mr. Ocampo chuckled and answered evasively.

"We have people around the world concerned about this," he said, and when pressed, added, "Whatever the gravest war crimes are that have been committed, we have to check."

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Wild Thing's comment.............

If Obama allows this happen even once, or signs the treaty, it is high treason and he must be quickly removed from office.

Turning over American soldiers over to a foreign entity to be tried is a bright red line, which must not be crossed.

This just keeps getting worse and worse! You can’t fight a war this way and expect to win!!!!!!!! Obama did say he does not seek Victory in war.

Posted by Wild Thing at November 28, 2009 02:50 AM


This beast called Obama must be dragged from the Oval Office, tried, convicted and hanged for treason, election fraud and the attempted destruction of the United States.

Posted by: Billy Ray at November 28, 2009 09:33 AM

I have two daughters in the military. THIS WOULD MAKE ME VERY UNHAPPY.

Posted by: Texas Barb at November 28, 2009 10:23 AM

Hi WT, Billy Ray,
I posted this yesterday also. Where is the outcry on this. He is so despicable it gets harder and harder to find words to describe him ans his actions.

"How much more should our military have to take? Where are the leaders in the military? Where is the Congress? Our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, fathers and mothers not only are facing our enemies abroad they are facing our enemies from within. How much more are the American people going to take? Screw the Hague."

Posted by: Bob A at November 28, 2009 10:48 AM

The Buck stops with CIC and that is obama, BobA. He is in charge and Military Leaders have to follow his orders, they have no say in the matter.

Why does this surprise anybody, obama won't even call that freak at Fort Hood a terrorist. This whole administration is UN-Constitutional, by that alone he could be brought up on charges, but first the charges have to be filed and that is up to Congress. Obama told, Russian President Medeve(sp), " the Constitution for all intents and purposes is null and void."

Nothing is going to change until 2010 election. Unless Congress grows a pair and puts an end to this non sense. We, our country is headed to a world government and the way obama sees it the United States will not be a major player.

This is serious shit. Where some Third world, Third rate lawyer wants to pursue war crimes against Bush or someone in the Military, they just go to the Hague, it will be that simple and obama is relieved of that responsibility, he is free and clear.

Posted by: Mark at November 28, 2009 12:06 PM

WTF do we expect? These SOB's have abdicated their responsibility for 64 years to UN subservience. What constitutes a charge, where is the line between discourse and insubordination? Think about it, first our military then the rest of us?

Posted by: Jack at November 28, 2009 03:22 PM

Billy Ray, I agree, he is a beast.

Posted by: Wild Thing at November 28, 2009 06:13 PM

Texas Barb, yes and to do this to our
troops is unforgivable.

Posted by: Wild Thing at November 28, 2009 06:16 PM

Bob A., I wonder too,there should be
all kinds of people ticked off about
this and making waves of their outrage.

Not a word on TV, maybe Fox but I have
not heard it as a big story so far.

Posted by: Wild Thing at November 28, 2009 06:18 PM

Mark, I agree, this is extremely serious.
There are so many things this will effect
and none of them for the good. It is so
vile and horrible.

Posted by: Wild Thing at November 28, 2009 06:25 PM

Jack, yes.
Damn these people!

Posted by: Wild Thing at November 28, 2009 06:27 PM

The Obama administration is now officially insane, Saturday, November 28, 2009.

Impeach Obama!!!

Posted by: Anon at November 28, 2009 07:42 PM

You have to remember that obama is a muslim and a Marxist. These have been proven over and over since obama became "President elect" and then President. He surrounds himself with radicals. obama is trying to destroy America.

Posted by: TomR at November 28, 2009 10:31 PM

Thanks Wild Thing, for posting this for all to see. I would ask the readers to copy the link and forward it to their e-mail friends, so that even those of us who don't read the mil-blogs can be aware of this move by the scurrilous, slimy, POS that is posing as the Commander-in-Chief of the most humane Military on the planet. Liberals, anti-war types, mothers, grandmothers, cousins n more need to know of this. Need to know how their relatives and neighbors are being put at risk by their own so-called Commander-in-Chief, (A position that he could never earn, but rather, ascended to.) All of America needs to know of the danger to we citizens if our Miltary is subjected to this asinine plan.
"Never Forget Ft. Hood Texas 11/5/09!" because the Mulatto-in-Chief just don't give a damn about You n I.

Posted by: Frankly Opinionated at November 29, 2009 08:48 AM