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September 17, 2009

Norah O'Donnell: ACORN Video 'Might Be Viewed As Entrapment'

Norah O'Donnell: ACORN Video 'Might Be Viewed As Entrapment'


Norah O'Donnell came on and suggested that the video of the ACORN employees giving advice on how to evade the tax laws in setting up a brothel with young illegal aliens "might be viewed as entrapment."

O'Donnell was careful to disassociate herself from ACORN's actions, saying her comments were "in no way defending what was indefensible, what these particular ACORN employees were doing." But O'Donnell didn't report that others were alleging entrapment: she offered it as her own possible analysis of the situation.

Joe and Mika were clearly skeptical . . .

NORAH O'DONNELL: I think it should be noted to be fair, though, that this might be viewed as entrapment. That some conservative activists used hidden cameras to get this stuff on camera.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: They can talk about entrapment all they want. Three different offices: Baltimore, Washington, New York, specifically Mika, were giving these people advice, telling them how to break laws, how to lie to the IRS, how to set up prostitution rings. I mean, I don't know that that's entrapment.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: I don't think that's entrapment!

Entrapment n. In criminal law, the act of law enforcement officers or government agents inducing or encouraging a person to commit a crime when the potential criminal expresses a desire not to go ahead. The key to entrapment is whether the idea for the commission or encouragement of the criminal act originated with the police or government agents instead of with the "criminal."


Wild Thing's comment......

What a bunch of BS from Norah O'Donnell! Nobody made those ACORN fools say what they did. If they were on the up and up, they would have kicked the pimp and the prostitute out the door.

....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.

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Posted by Wild Thing at September 17, 2009 05:44 AM


Sorry, Norah, not entrapment. She is just jealous that the Acorn Fraud videos have become a very successful FOX miniseries, made by people younger than her and getting more attention and viewership than she is. They did not teach that sunshine is the best disinfectant when Norah was in journalism school. People like her are running like sprayed roaches out of the kitchen. I love it!

Posted by: jan at September 17, 2009 08:28 AM

MSNBC's Comrade Nora is only applying Alinsky's rules to the debate, these corrupt Communists were caught red handed, by rank amateur journalists, a skill long missing in the MSM. Specifically rules 4. and 5. She's saying that the right broke their rules for civil surveillance in filming corruption and leaking it to the media and she is ridiculing Fox for entrapment. Comrade Nora goes beyond being a useful idiot, May I?
Glenn Beck has built his FOX exposé around their rules and with Andrew Breitbart's help he's become wildly successful in outing them.

Saul Alinsky's rules:

RULE 1: "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)

RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don't address the "real" issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

RULE 3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity's very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

RULE 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid "un-fun" activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)

RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists' minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)

RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management's wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

RULE 11: "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

Posted by: Jack at September 17, 2009 12:51 PM

Catching Rats in a trap with no bate is not entrapment. The High School Musical (to Use Jon Stewarts Phase) Jouranlists did not hide that they were engaged in illegal activity and made it so certain that a brain damaged lama would know. The offered no special inducements for the ACORN people.

Posted by: Avitar at September 17, 2009 01:08 PM

If that is entrapment then banks and convienance stores are guilty of entrapment for being there to lure armed robbers. What a typical steaming shovelful from a liberal reporter.

Posted by: TomR at September 17, 2009 01:13 PM

Jan, I agree with you so much.

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 18, 2009 12:35 AM

Jack, thank you for that list.

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 18, 2009 12:38 AM