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August 17, 2008

Ukraine Torments Russia With Show Of Solidarity

Ukraine torments Russia with show of solidarity

Times Online

Ukraine yesterday offered to create a joint missile defence network with the West amid fears that its port city of Sebastopol, home of the Russian Black Sea fleet, could become the next flashpoint between Russia and its former satellites.

The Ukrainian offer, which means its early warning radar stations could become part of the West’s civil defence system, will further damage poor relations between Kiev and Moscow.

Ukraine, which to the fury of Russia is looking towards Europe and membership of Nato, announced last week that it would require the Russian fleet to seek permission whenever ships entered its territorial waters.

Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine’s reformist president who visited the Georgian capital Tbilisi last week to support President Mikhail Saakashvili, said the use of Russian ships for a war violated Ukraine’s neutrality and risked drawing it into conflict.
He instructed his security council to draw up new rules forcing Russia to apply up to 10 days in advance for permission for its fleet to move in and out of Ukraine’s territorial waters.
This weekend Yushchenko said a threat to Georgia’s territorial integrity should be viewed as a potential threat to Ukraine’s: “We have lived through the most terrible 10 days of our recent history.”

The Russian response was immediate. Colonel-General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy chief of the Russian general staff, who last week warned Poland that it could face a nuclear strike after signing a deal with the United States to place a missile shield on its soil, made a belligerent statement to Ukraine.

He said Russian ships would ignore the order to seek permission, which he claimed was “illegitimate”.

Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister, warned Yushchenko last February that Russia could point nuclear missiles at Ukraine if it cooperated with US missile defence plans.

Ukraine is insisting the Russian military must leave Sebastopol when the lease on the base expires in 2017. The Russian navy has made it clear it may refuse to do so.

Wild Thing's comment........

It's good to see solidarity of Russia’s neighbors in resisting this aggression. Dangerous times all because of Russia.

Posted by Wild Thing at August 17, 2008 05:50 AM


good for Ukraine. We all need to fight back against Puddin' pants. I know he wants his country back and I know he wants the Cold War going again and that if he can get Georgia, he'll have a straight line to the MidEast Oil, but it's too bad. Don't spit in the eyes of Gorbachev. He did what was right. The Russians are enjoying freedoms they never had and they love it. Now Puddin' pants wants to be Burgermeister Meisterburger from Sombertown and take it all away. No more toys--only chores. I'm sorry if he had a bad childhood and had to join the KGB (kiddie goof balls), but it's not his countrymen's fault.

Posted by: Lynn at August 17, 2008 06:59 AM

The old USSR was a probe state after WWII. It acted where it perceived weakness and withdrew where it met determined resistance. It has neither the resources nor guts to renew the Cold War.

Posted by: Rhod at August 17, 2008 09:57 AM

...and is it just me, or does that little fart Putin look like he just crawled out of a tree trunk.

Posted by: Rhod at August 17, 2008 10:10 AM

This guy putin will eat obama's lunch and steal his milk money...and tell him, tomorrow, You bring Kanollies.

Can anyone believe how stupid the democrats are or what ? How he beat Hillary is beyond my comprehension, Hill must've been asleep for awhile.

Finally there is a picture on Drudge, Kerry and Obama, Kerry has his arm around obama, and the look on obama's face is... get this creep away from me.

Posted by: Mark at August 17, 2008 01:50 PM

Once KGB, always KGB. Longing for the old days it seems. Good on the Ukraine and Poland.
God, it galls me to hear all the whackadoos on the left making excuses for Russia.

Posted by: yankeemom at August 17, 2008 03:40 PM

Ukraine is either brave, stupid, or both. They are standing up to Russia and staring KGB Putin in the face knowing that a President Obama and Democrat controlled Congress would abandon them in a conflict just as they are doing with Iraq.

Posted by: Les at August 17, 2008 05:27 PM

The Ukraine shows more guts than most of the US Congress. Russia is weak without the support of her former satellite states. Putin may be biting off more than he can chew. He also has to worry how many native Russians don't want to return to the days of the gulags.

Posted by: TomR at August 17, 2008 05:36 PM

Ach! Angela Merkel flew to Tblisi today, and said that Georgia is on track to become a member of NATO! Poland hasn't declined missile defense systems and Ukraine tells Russia to stick their vodka bottles where the sun don't shine. Fantastic.

Time will tell, but maybe the day when American youngsters are taking fire for everyone else is over. Fu*k that weasel-faced punk, Putin, and his drunken army of losers.

Posted by: Rhod at August 17, 2008 06:05 PM

Lynn, yes I bet many of his countrymen wish Putin would stop this insane thing he is doing. Like you said they have been enjoying the changes in their country and not all want to go back to the KGB lifestyle.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 17, 2008 06:52 PM

Rhod, Hahahahaha yes he does look like that.

At first when I saw the photo of Putin I thought he had a mustache like Hitler, but then I saw it was just the shading from the light. haha

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 17, 2008 06:55 PM

Mark, oho my gawd LOL

"This guy putin will eat obama's lunch and steal his milk money...and tell him, tomorrow, You bring Kanollies."

I have to go look at Drudge thanks for telling me. hahaa

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 17, 2008 06:58 PM

Yankeemom, I know what you mean, I saw a few lefties just loving what Russia is doing.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 17, 2008 07:04 PM

Les, so far I will pick that they are being brave and that they do not want to go back to how it was before.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 17, 2008 07:07 PM

Tom, "Ukraine shows more guts than most of the US Congress"....that sure is the truth.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 17, 2008 07:10 PM

Rhod, DITTO and AMEN!

And thank you Rhod for the headsup too.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 17, 2008 07:13 PM

In a strange way, Vlad Putin may have cost Obama the 2008 presidential election! The SOVIET aggreSSion and timing was as destructful to the DEMS as the Japs timing on Pearl Harbor! Thanks Vlad Impaler Putin, and have a chilled Stoli shaken not stirred, DA?

Posted by: The Ethics Cleanser 08 at August 18, 2008 12:01 AM