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July 16, 2008

Obama's 'civilian national security force'

"We are going to grow our foreign service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy," said Obama. "We cannot to continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we have set. We have got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."-- Barack Obama July 2, 2008
At this same speech, he promised to withhold funds from school districts that don't make their junior high and high schoolers serve 50 hours a year. 100 hours for college students, provided their type of service is deemed acceptable by a sprawling new Federal bureaucracy.
Oh, and Obama's going to double the size of the Peace Corps while quadrupling AmeriCorps. I'm curious if anyone will be left to fill all the newly vacated private sector jobs.

Then B. Hussein Obama concluded his speech with this gem:

"Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it."

Barack Obama: Call to Service in Colorado Springs, CO--July 2nd, 2008

Obama's 'civilian national security force'


Barack Obama's campaign about a statement he made July 2 in Colorado Springs – a statement that blew my mind, one that has had me scratching my head ever since.

In talking about his plans to double the size of the Peace Corps and nearly quadruple the size of AmeriCorps and the size of the nation's military services, he made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

What does it mean?

If we're going to create some kind of national police force as big, powerful and well-funded as our combined U.S. military forces, isn't this rather a big deal?

I thought Democrats generally believed the U.S. spent too much on the military. How is it possible their candidate is seeking to create some kind of massive but secret national police force that will be even bigger than the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force put together?

Now, maybe he was misquoted by the Congressional Quarterly and the Chicago Tribune. I guess it's possible. If so, you would think he would want to set the record straight. Maybe he misspoke. That has certainly happened before. Again, why wouldn't the rest of my colleagues show some curiosity about such a major and, frankly, bone-chilling proposition?

Are we talking about creating a police state here?

The U.S. Army alone has nearly 500,000 troops. That doesn't count reserves or National Guard. In 2007, the U.S. Defense budget was $439 billion.

Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force bigger and more expensive than that?

If not, why did he say it? What did he mean?

So far, despite our attempts to find out, the Obama campaign is not talking.

At this point all I can do is enlist your help – and the help of every other journalist who still thinks the American people have a right to know the specifics about a presidential candidate's biggest and boldest initiatives before the election. I also want to ask radio talk-show hosts across America to start asking this same question. I have a feeling if others join our quest, we might yet get clarification on this proposal from Obama.

Who will Obama appoint to administer this new "civilian national security force"? Where will the money come from? Where in the Constitution does he see justification for the federal government creating such a domestic army?

The questions are endless.

But before we can hope to get to the specifics, we need much more in the way of generalizations from Obama.

Certainly there have been initiatives like this elsewhere – Cuba, the Soviet Union, China, Venezuela, North Korea. But has anything like this ever been proposed in a free country?

I have a feeling there would be more questions from the press if I myself had proposed the creation of something as preposterous as a "civilian national security force" than there has been about this proposal by the presidential candidate currently leading in most of the polls. I'm quite sure I would be hung out to dry as some kind of Nazi thug. Meanwhile, Obama makes this wild suggestion and it is met with a collective yawn from the watchdogs.


Wild Thing's comment........

OK. Now this guy is really starting to scare the crap out of me. More then before, more then he ever has. OMG, it sounds like Germany in the 1930’s, or Bolshevik Russia.

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Lifted straight from Schicklgruber's writings. Anyone who votes for this guy is mad.

Obama's going to create a civilian national security force as strong as the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines -- combined? With the same budget? And hardware, apparently!!

The SS was an elite military unit.

The Gestapo watched the people.

The Gestapo is what this sounds like to me......Obama's little plan would be more along those lines I am sure. Keep an eye on the people to see no one gets out of line or mutters a bad thought about the "administration". Scary stuff indeed.

Freedom means you building your dream. Your government exists to defend your right to build your dream.

A free country is the sum total of free people each dedicated to building his family and his dream, three hundred million dreams being made real daily. Thats a free country.

A free citizen is not the agent of his government, his government is his agent. Government in a free country is not a king, it is an employee. It guards the gate and takes out the trash.

History tells us what ends such an internal security force will be used for.

Clealy, as an abject marxist and militant anti-American, he will need such a force to counter those bitter, christian, rural folks who are clinging to their guns. Molōn labe!

This nation is going to be thrown into absolute chaos if he becomes President. Obama doesn’t understand the people of this nation. We aren’t going to sell our freedom to some wannabe hippy marxist skipping across the country offering “hope” and “change”.

Now I wonder if THIS is why Obama suddenly supported FISA. It certainly can't be what it is meant for regarding terrorists, Obama may have other plans for it.

....Thank you Mark for this article and information as well.
From Mark:
In 1945 Hitler decided to make a Home Defense force, called the Volkes Sturm, the Home Guard. Many of the boys ages 10 or 12 years old wer recruited to this. Many didn't have a choice, they were ordered to report.

There were given parts of uniforms and some hats and a 'Panzerfaust', like an RPG, anti-tank weapon and these kids and old men were told to go out there and stop Pattons Tanks. Then they were loaded onto trucks and taken out to the front, which in 1945 was not to far away. Many of the children, after the leaders had left they threw down their weapons, uniforms and hats and ran home. These were kids for God sake. Sadly though, many did not throw down their weapons, and stayed and died for Hitler. This was a huge shock for our own troops to confront kids and have to kill them.

Posted by Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 05:55 AM


Isn't this just precious?

The man who would be Dictator...

Do you hear the rumblings? I do. More and more people are looking up and not liking what they see. If this sorry excuse for an American gets elected, there will be Hell to pay. I really believe that the generation who is now fighting for other's freedom will not sit back and let this idiot dictate their children's lives here at home.
The politicians may think our troops are "stoopid", but we know better. Those who have picked up a Rifle instead of a Latte have had their world perspective changed for ever.

Posted by: yankeemom at July 16, 2008 08:42 AM

I wonder if Obama includes gulags in his marxist utopia. This man seems to resist any and all cocepts of a Constitutional, free thinking America. Sadly, if elected, he will have the Congress to help him implement his mad socialist ideas and plans.

Yes WT, Molon Labe!

Posted by: TomR at July 16, 2008 09:49 AM

Somewhere Somebody has bullets with his name on them-- !! What does he think he is going to do? Put white people in some kind of rule under a Black Militant Army of some sort?? That is what it sounds like to me-- Screw Obama - master of bullshit- My hate for him grows daily- hourly and in minutes- seconds and nano seconds!!

Posted by: Cheryl Zee at July 16, 2008 10:24 AM

This is what Obama wants to hear from his followers.

Wir werden Ihnen zu den Enden von der Erde folgen, mein Leiter

Posted by: BobF at July 16, 2008 11:10 AM

What is freightening about this is the similarities between 1925 and today. My grandfather would tell us stories about how bad inflation was in Germany in the 1920's he said you could take a wheelbarrel full of marks and buy a loaf of bread. Shortly afterward, they came to the United States.

We would marvel at how the people were duped into following Hitler without any question at all, what was his secret to move a whole nation in the direction, he clearly planned to take them, but no one said a word and blindly followed hime right off the cliff.

In retrospect Hitler offered change, just like Obama is offering change today and millions of people are singing his praises, why ??? They have convinced themselves to hate the current administration, their leaders have worked for 8 years breeding and fomenting this hate. Now they have a scripted leader, able to follow the prescribed text as laid out by the and a few other choice individuals.

Communism or National Socialism the two extremes of the political spectrum converge in the end with the same result. Liberty and free will are the true victims in the end they are the dead ones. The people are just caught in the middle and either go along with the program or be cast aside along the way to their political nirvana.

I know this sounds radical but when the CPUSA and all the other extreme Left wing groups endorse Obama this can only be the end result.

Posted by: Mark at July 16, 2008 12:56 PM

It is scary what this madman and his handlers want for the nation. We nearly had a repeat of the 1929 crash last week when Chucky Schumer used the media to create a run on the banks resulting in the closure of IndyMac Bancorp Inc. and the forced Federal propping up of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. i.e. more government control over all our finances. That 1929 crash led to FDR's raw deal and our path to present day Communism. The Democrats will resort to anything to stampede the populace into accepting slavery over freedom in their agenda.

Posted by: Jack at July 16, 2008 01:19 PM

The original organization that forced change in Hitlers Germany were the "Brownshirts." They specialized in enforcing "political laws" such as Jewish/non-Jewish relationships and intimidating political opposition. According to some articles I have read the organization relied on "butch" homosexuals to perform their most egregious acts of political terrorism. My question is what laws does Obama intend for this new organization to enforce? Being politically correct may take on a whole new meaning.

Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2008 04:13 PM

Community Organizers in another notable country were called commissars. They enforced party discipline in their AO's, exposed and punished rebellious free thinkers, and solidified State control.

Think of it this way. If you want a liberal in uniform, behaving in military fashion, give him power over other human beings. It doesn't matter how meagre or trivial the position is, liberalism is chiefly about conforming individuals to the goals of liberalism through the administrative state. Totalitariansim, in other words.

Posted by: Rhod at July 16, 2008 04:21 PM

Barack Obama said that when he was thinking about seeking the presidency voices counseled him to stay in Washington a few more years to master the game. He said the fact is that he has been in Washington long enough to know that the game has to change.

Let's look at the real facts. The "game" that Obama talks about is the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government as described in Articles I, II, and III of the Constitution of the United States of America. So, after less than two years in the U.S. Senate, this arrogant SOB who did not play well with others, did not initiate or get any legislation passed, and did not show any leadership "knows" better than the founders of the country that the Constitution game has to change.

Barack Obama's view of affecting change is to elect him President along with a greater majority number of existing game player and entrenched Democrats to both houses of Congress. A President (Messiah to the believers) Obama with his expected support from Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and a Democratic majority Congress will impose his "civilian national security force" on the country which is nothing less than socialist slavery.

Sounds like the makings for a Declaration of Independence. Been there, done that. Let's not repeat the mistakes of the past by electing someone who thinks that he knows better than the founders of the country and the Constitution of the United States of America.

Posted by: Les at July 16, 2008 06:09 PM

Yankeemom, your right and it scares me. I just don't understand how people would want to vote for this Obama. What on earth are they thinking about, it sure isn't their love for America.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 06:49 PM

Tom,I agree that is what added in to my being afraid. Obama will have Congress on his side so a lot of his awful stuff could very well be put through.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 06:52 PM

Cheryl, if he does win, the people that have been rino's in Congress are going to have to come to their senses and vote down things he wants. We will need all we can get on America's side.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 07:10 PM

BobF, yes very true.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 07:11 PM

Mark, thank you for sharing about your Grandfather.
I don't think it sounds radical at all to say that about CPUSA and the other groups. Their goal is exactly what they want and so does Obama. He earned his furtherst to the left in government for a reason, all this middle road stuff he has been saying ( flip flopping) is baloney just to beg for more votes.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 07:16 PM

Jack, thank you for sharing about that, yesss that was very scary and it took me awhile to understand what had happened.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 07:19 PM

Robert, yes they were called Brownshirts.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 07:21 PM

Rhod, thank you so much and you sure are right. Those combinations end up just like you said.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 07:23 PM

Les, I beleive with all my heart those mistakes will never happen again. But what scares me is how long it will take for people to wake up how much Obama is like that. If he did try this there would be such a fight in this country even if our politicans don't show up for it. We will never ever let that horrible past be repeated.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 16, 2008 07:27 PM

"...Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Fuhrer Obama?"
The DSP - Democratic SocialiSt Party - should scare the HELL out of US!!

Posted by: darthcrUSAderworldtour07 at July 17, 2008 01:14 AM

At least the Third Reich's SHITszelgoober Adolf Hitler SERVED in the German Army during World War I - the war that was SUPPOSEd to END all future wars, eh?! This Obama bin Laden is DANGEROUS, and so are the radical socialist lefties that $upport him... WE have to vote in less than four months for the lesser of two evils!

Posted by: The Ethics Cleanser 08 at July 17, 2008 02:26 AM

Darth, Yes it should and people need to know about this and if they don't understand have it explained to them how dangerous this could be.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 17, 2008 04:25 AM

The Ethics Cleanser 08, thank you and yesssss we ARE the conservatives. The days are going too fast.

Posted by: Wild Thing at July 17, 2008 04:28 AM