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September 29, 2007

First Jell-O, now Halloween and Santa

First Jell-O, now Santa
chicago sun times

The holiday traditions are facing elimination in some Oak Lawn schools this year after complaints that the activities are offensive, particularly to Muslim students.

Final decisions on which of the festivities will be axed will fall to the principals at each of Ridgeland School District 122's five schools, Supt. Tom Smyth said.

Parents expect that the announcement is going to add to the tension that has been building since officials agreed earlier this month to change the lunch menu to exclude items containing pork to accommodate Muslim students.

News that Jell-O was struck from the menu caused such a stir that officials have agreed to bring it back. Gelatin is often made with tissue or bones of pigs or other animals.

Manor Principal Sandy Robertson hoping to strike compromises that will keep traditions alive and be culturally acceptable to all students -- nearly half of whom are of Arab descent at Columbus Manor, she says. Fewer than a third of students districtwide are of Arab descent, according to Smyth.

Following the example of Lieb Elementary School, Columbus Manor School will exchange the annual Halloween parade for a fall festival next month. The holiday gift bazaars at both schools also will remain, but they'll likely be moved to the PTA-sponsored after-school winter festival. And Santa's annual visit probably will be on a Saturday.

Wild Thing's comment........

We should have a national holiday for offending muslims. LOL

If Muslims are offended let them open their own schools or keep their children home. I am sorry but this is just asinine & we should not adapt to their customs. They ought to be adapting to the American way of life or stay in their own countries. Are supermarkets going to take pork off the shelves next? I am so sick of these people.

Posted by Wild Thing at September 29, 2007 12:55 AM


Love your islamo faces of evil. What the Demliblooney atheists and secularists and treasonous Americans fail to realize is that if Islam rules the world - their goal is to establish the caliphate kingdom via 7th century -
you can kiss women's rights, Christian holidays and secular holidays GOODBYE! The atheists and homosexuals will be the first 'infidels' to be beheaded! Happy Halloween, er Ramadan everybody !! - Darth of Arabia 2007

Posted by: darthcrUSAderworldtour07 at September 29, 2007 05:01 AM

I guess they don't realize that what they're doing is offensive as well.
Us kids lived for the Halloween and Christmas parties at school! They were fun.
And who doesn't love Jell-o?
They are finding innocent things to push an agenda.
One, Halloween is NOT satanic. It was originally a Pagan holiday (maybe they should watch The Halloween Tree cartoon movie!) in which people dressed up to avoid the devil, plus the following day is All Saints day followed by All Souls day.It's the churches who have made it Satanic.
And Santa is based on a real person who gave from his own heart to children. Who would hate someone like that?
Everything I needed to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11. They don't like ANYTHING!!!! Spoiled brats.

Posted by: Lynn at September 29, 2007 06:55 AM

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

When traditions and even laws are being changed to accommodate Islam, that religion is rapidly becoming the established religion in America.

Posted by: BobF at September 29, 2007 09:05 AM

I'm going to hand out bacon and pork roll sandwiches for Hallowe'en this year, then
I think I'll have a roast pig instead of a turkey this year for Thanksgiving.
All I can say is they won't try that in our town. We're pretty evenly split between Christians and Jews, (a few pagans, as well) we all get along wonderfully and what few muzzies live in the area keep a pretty low profile. Our schools celebrate all the holidays, in honor of both faiths, including the seasonal celebrations, like the Solstice and Equinox events, as it should be. Any American who lets this happen in their schools should be ashamed of themselves.
I don't believe that every Muslim holds to the radical beliefs of some, and, unless they give me reason, I'll give the few I know the benefit of the doubt and I respect their beliefs as they respect mine. America was built upon the freedom of everyone being allowed to follow their beliefs and in the trust that they will not impose those beliefs on others, especially at the National and local Government level. Schools receive help from both local and National Government agencies and the tax dollars of the citizens. Just by virtue of that alone, the decision making should be by popular vote among the families that attend the schools in that district or town. If Muslim students might find their beliefs compromised by foods in a school cafeteria, then those foods should be clearly labeled and the staffed educated in making sure that don't offer something to someone who shouldn't have it. That's the smart and polite thing to do. Denying everyone something because it might offed the few is lunacy and if the parents don't speak up, it will spread to every aspect of public life.
I was brought up by parents who, bless them, held on to some of the racial and religious prejudice that was predominate in the era they grew up in and I learned to hate it, right to my very bones. They almost went berserk when they found out I had a Jewish friend in junior high school and had been to his house to eat with his family. It was things like that that made me grow up "color blind" and open to accepting other's beliefs, no matter how different they might be from mine, I used those experiences as a growing tool. As much as I hate what radical Islam stands for and the horrors it brings to our world and on it's own people, I don't hold that against the few Muslims I know. They're downright honest and good people and wish me a Merry Christmas when I talk to them that time of year and they've even stopped by to say hi at a few of our Forth of July parties. It's sad to have to say that I don't see them much any more, all because of crap like this. It makes it all very confusing, doesn't it?

Posted by: gregor at September 29, 2007 11:50 AM

The news article doesn't explain why other than the fact that they are caving in to the demands of the mooslimes , like most articles from the lefties. I find it laughable that the author didn't investigate why, you have WT.
Gelatin is the protein collagen used most as a stabilizer, thickener, or texturizer in foods such as ice cream, jams, yogurt, cream cheese, and margarine; it is used, as well, in fat-reduced foods to simulate the mouth feel of fat and to create volume without adding calories. Gelatin typically constitutes the shells of pharmaceutical capsules in order to make them easier to swallow. Animal glues such as hide glue are essentially unrefined gelatin. It is used to hold silver halide crystals in an emulsion in virtually all photographic films and photographic papers. Despite some efforts, no suitable substitutes with the stability and low cost of gelatin have been found. Gelatin makes beta-carotene water-soluble, thus imparting a yellow color to any soft drinks containing beta-carotene and is used as a binder in match heads and sandpaper. Cosmetics may contain a non-gelling variant of gelatin under the name "hydrolysed collagen". As a surface sizing, it smooths glossy printing papers or playing cards and maintains the wrinkles in crêpe paper. Special kinds of gelatin are made only from certain animals or from fish (known as K-gelatin) in order to comply with Jewish kosher or Muslim halal laws. Vegetarians and vegans may substitute similar gelling agents such as agar, nature gum, carrageenan, pectin, or konnyaku sometimes referred to as "vegetable gelatins" although there is no chemical relationship; they are carbohydrates, not proteins. The name "gelatin" is colloquially applied to all types of gels and jellies; but properly used, it currently refers solely to the animal protein product. There is no vegetable source for gelatin. Does this mean a ban on all products containing or using gelatin? I find it much simpler to ban all muzzies and their intolerance to life here in the civilized western world, that border is still open, feel free to go back to that wonderful land of hatred, debauchery and death from whence you migrated.

Posted by: Jack at September 29, 2007 01:06 PM

There is a distinct American culture. It is based on social values and religious beliefs that do not correspond to moslem beliefs. Therefore, THE MOSLEMS need to change. Not, all the rest of us adapt to fit their damn crap. Call me a bigot if you want. But moslems have already caused a loss of freedoms and disruptions in this country we have not experienced before.

We live now in a constant fear of what they will do next. What/who/where/how will the next vicious, mortal, uncalled for attack be?

Do we fear the Hindus here, the Buddhists, the Baptists, Jews, Catholics, atheists? Hell, we attacked the Branch Davidians just because they were different, but we remove pork from the school menus for moslems. Crap!!

I hate to think of the casualties, the destruction and costs on Americans of the promised next attacks from the moslem crazies. The demanding, self centered, unassimilating moslems might start fearing what the retaliation will be on them.

Posted by: TomR at September 29, 2007 01:12 PM

If Muslims don't like our Western culture, let 'em go live in their sandboxes in the Middle East.

Posted by: Always On Watch at September 29, 2007 05:11 PM


Not all of us atheists are of the extreme leftist slant; this one believes that if the Christian and Jewish schoolkids have to leave their religion at home, the muzzies can also, or go somewhere else.

I've looked and looked, but I can't find "The Right Not to be Offended" anywhere in the Constitution. I often muse over which groups the muzzies will execute first when they take over, Jews, Christians, Atheists, homosexuals, etc, or will they just start in one corner of the country and lop off the head of anyone who has trouble saying "allahu akbar" while proceeding to the opposite corner? And if it is to be "execution by group" which of the other groups would come to the aid of the rest? Or will one group gladly throw the rest to the wolves, "hoping the wolf will eat them last"?

And as for Sandy Robertson, she seems naive enough to think she can negotiate these people to a standstill. Once they have a area staked out, they will continue to push the envelope, never ceding any gains. Unlike most Americans, they don't have to have to have instant, permanant solutions; decades, if not centuries of "progress"(?) are perfectly acceptable timeframes in their march back to the seventh century.

Sooner or later, there is going to have to be a reckoning, and it won't be pretty. I'm hoping for sooner, so we can get 'er done before my grandsons wind up bumping their heads on the floor five times a day.

Posted by: Rick at September 29, 2007 07:34 PM

Rick... you are the first ... conservative atheist I have conversed with. Freedom of religion in public schools was removed in 1962, and the mooslimes shouldn't have ANY special or preferential treatment or sympathy sir. Luke 1:37 and Joshua 1:9 !

Posted by: darthcrUSAderworldtour07 at September 30, 2007 12:13 AM

Darth, thank you I am glad you like the graphic. Lots of evil in it.

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 30, 2007 12:52 AM

Lynn yes, I alwasy had fun on Halloween. Even now we have such fun looking at all the kids costums when they come trick or treating. Even our puppy love it.
I love Jello too. haha

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 30, 2007 12:54 AM

Bob that is true, and sure as heck do not anything to do with Islam.

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 30, 2007 12:55 AM

Gregor, yes it does make it like that.

I have Christian friends like myself, Jewish friends, a few that are wican's and a few that are atheist. Every one of them is a huge supporter of our troops, have family serving in Iraq today, and other then the various faiths and religions they believe in feel exactly as I do about America, are strong conservatives and awesome people.

The difference to me is only with Islam, the terrorist that follow it to the letter believe in killing us. yikes, now that is where I draw the line. No thank you Islam.

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 30, 2007 01:04 AM

Jack I agree, I think it easier just to ban all muslims. Ditto!

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 30, 2007 01:05 AM

Tom, I agree so much with what you said.

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 30, 2007 01:08 AM

Always on Watch, they should do just that. I have had it with their whine and complaints and wanting exceptions made for them.

We have tons of various religions in America and they all get along, they all respect each other's space so to speak. All except for those with Islam. grrrrrrrrrr

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 30, 2007 01:10 AM

Rick yes, your so right. I was with our youngest nephews tonight they are only 5, 8 and 11. I pray we get this all taken care of before they have to face a world of Islam law on everyone and the fear of death in our streets like in Israel and some other countries.

Also please see my reply to Gregor.

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 30, 2007 01:13 AM

darthcrUSAder, WT,

Yes, I was pretty surprised I existed, too.

Posted by: Rick at September 30, 2007 02:36 AM

Rick... When the Mayflower Compact & Declaration of Independence were written, our patriot forefathers said the New World was open to all that wanted to praise God or not to... but Islam / Muhammadism will not trump God Almighty on my watch! If Islam rules, you'll be executed, along with me sir.

Posted by: darthcrUSAderworldtour07 at September 30, 2007 03:23 AM


I don't plan on being executed; I'm going down fighting for my freedom as well as yours.

Posted by: Rick at September 30, 2007 01:32 PM

okay everyone is saying wierd things ok
muslims are just like me and you .they are people with feelings.imagine if someone started writing about christains that they did all this.what would you do?my friend is muslim and she is just like me !except for little details in what we belive in.So if they cant eat pork than they cant.its part of their religion .its almost like a vegeterian whatever!you guys should be ashamed to be saying all this .and whats up with the picture?that is sooooo WRONG.

Posted by: kassidi Coner at October 1, 2007 07:24 PM

Guys you all have to have open minds about this issue, why is it so wrong for the muslims to put their decoration during they're holiday, what happened to freedom to express yourself, why is it that Christians can only celeberate their holidays and not that of muslims, why can't it be both, it's all about unity, we all have to work together, why make such a small ramadan decoration so huge, for what reason, it's foolish in a way.
many people are just making excuses and saying it's b/c the muslims are trying to take over, but seriously you people deep inside know this is not true, and that's your cover up of not showing the prejiduce side of you, its simply that most people don't like Muslims and are so gullible in believing all the sterotypes about the muslims, becuase you want to believe they're bad, when they're really not, they believe in respecting others including other religions, but why can't people do the same, seriously people have to stop believeing things they hear because 90% of it isnt true.
when the school is not selling jell-o b/c of the pork gelatin it contains, they're respecting muslims, but you act like all this no pork and anything containing pork gelatin is for muslims, well i think people forgot that jews dont eat gelatin or pork as well, don't act as if all this was only for muslim people, when its for the jews as well, and thats a good thing b/c public schools are taking into consideration, the 2 religions, i respect everyone and they're comments, but why make something so innocent, into something corrupt.
thank you

Posted by: Mary at October 2, 2007 04:48 PM