Theodore's World: Some Then and Now From The Left

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August 25, 2007

Some Then and Now From The Left

This is what some have said in the past.................

"This war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything." Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), April 19, 2007

"As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce the intended results…The increase in US forces has had little impact in curbing the violence or fostering political reconciliation." Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), June 13, 2007

"Bush's strategy of increasing troops in Iraq is "a failed policy wrapped in illusion." Rep. John Murtha (D-PA), April 24, 2007

On the New York Times editorial asserting the initial success of the Iraq troop surge: "I dismiss it at as rhetoric. I dismiss it as -- you know, in my estimation, the things that I measure are not -- oil production, electricity production, water. Only two hours of electricity. I don't know where they were staying. I don't know what they saw. But I know this, that it's not getting better. It's rhetorical is what is getting better. It's over-optimist. It's an illusion." Rep. John Murtha (D-PA), July 31, 2007

On the troop surge strategy: "This is a dangerously wrong-headed strategy that will drive America deeper into an unwinnable swamp at a great cost. It is wrong to place American troops into the middle of Iraq's civil war.

We cannot escape the reality that there will be no military solution in Iraq…More American troops, treasure and casualties will not change this reality." Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), January 10, 2007

On the troop surge strategy: "a categorical, catastrophic...[and] abject failure." Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA), June 29, 2007

"The prospects that the current 'surge' strategy will succeed in the way originally envisioned by the President are very limited…Unless we recalibrate our strategy in Iraq to fit our domestic political conditions and the broader needs of U.S. national security, we risk foreign policy failures that could greatly diminish our influence in the region and the world." Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN), June 25, 2007

"According to polls, the vast majority of Americans disagree with President Bush's plan to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq to quell sectarian violence. I, too, disagree with the troop surge. The question now before the U.S. Senate is how best to send a strong, clear, bipartisan message to the President to express our disagreement and urge him to instead consider all options and alternatives." Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE), January 29, 2007

"Twenty thousand American soldiers are too few to end this civil war in Iraq and too many American lives to risk on top of those we've already lost." Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), January 10, 2007

"I continue to believe that it is a mistake to send more U.S. troops to Baghdad, which is engulfed by sectarian strife…I have repeatedly expressed directly to the president my opposition to his plan to increase the overall number of American troops in Iraq." Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), April 26, 2007

And this is what some of them are saying now...............

"It's working. We're just years too late in our tactics," she said, referring to the beefed-up U.S. troop presence battling insurgents in Iraq, including war-torn Anbar province.Hillary Clinton Aug 20, 2007

As we are seeing military progress, any political scene is discouraging. SEN. DICK DURBIN

in response to the question do you agree with your colleague there are some signs of military progress here?

Sure, there are, John. We have said in the beginning, our troops are doing their job. SEN. Bob Casey

Knowing all this, how can someone who opposed the war now call for continuing the new directions that have been taken in Iraq? The answer is that the people, strategies and facts on the ground have changed for the better and those changes justify changing our position on what should be done. Democrat Rep. Brian Baird

AA successful Report from Petraeus would be “a real big problem for us.” Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.)

"We are also encouraged by continuing positive results – in al Anbar Province, from the recent decisions of some of the Sunni tribes to turn against al Qaeda and cooperate with coalition force efforts to kill or capture its adherents,”Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman (D) Carl Levin

Wild Thing's comment........

Awhile back I listed the quotes from all the Dems that said there were WMD, the quotes were said during the Clinton years in the White House and also right after 9-11. Madeline Albright, Bill Clinton and the list of Democrat names goes on and on saying there absolutely were WMD.

Now the quotes about the Surge and it is interesting how there is a similarity in so many of the same people being negative about our troops and those that said oh heck yes Saddam has WMB and needs to be taken out, we need to go to Iraq.

Just thought I would show you this, it is kind of interesting I think. Even though we all know the obvious, that they change with the wind to whatever suits them. They have no substance at all.....nothing.

Posted by Wild Thing at August 25, 2007 12:47 AM


Wanna a REAL surge? Tell the ground pounders to take a few weeks off and let the USAF A-10's and C-130 spectre gun ships loose: Operation Swiss Cheese Islamos On Pita Bread 07

Posted by: darthcrUSAderworldtour07 at August 25, 2007 06:35 AM

It isn't the surge they're really talking about--it's that Bush had all these ideas and they didn't. It's so hateful. And our kids see this every day--no wonder they're confused and don't know what's right or wrong. And many parents rely on teachers and the media to tell us what to believe.
I don't think I've ever seen such hate for one person. Bush isn't a bad man and he doesn't hate anyone. I remember people saying Ronald Wilson Reagan was the antichrist (yeah, right)and that tearing down the Berlin Wall and bringing about the end of the Cold War was going to be the end of us all.
But when they said Bush controls the weather (hurricane Katrina), I had to laugh and tell them that only God controls the weather, so Bush must be God?
But in the end, Heartless Harry and Nazi Pelooser and Murtha the Hut will ALL get their comeuppances when they stand before the almighty and atone for their sins. Venegence is mine, sayeth the Lord.
It flabbergasted them every time.

Posted by: Lynn at August 25, 2007 08:38 AM

Last week we all heard the she agreed the Surge WAS working. Did she say somthing wrong? Well maybe, because now she strped into this situation.
Hillary drew outrage from her opponents for the Democratic presidential nomination on Friday after saying that a terrorist attack in the United States would give Republicans an edge in the 2008 race.Clinton took an immediate hit online. Left-leaning bloggers accused her of…blithely accepting a Karl Rove-like framing of the terrorism debate.

In other words, if they attack before the election, it could hurt her chances to become President. What a stupid comment. Ah but, isn’t she the smartest women in the world?

Posted by: DD2 at August 25, 2007 09:24 AM

The dems and anti-war politicians can say whatever suits their agenda for the moment. If they are wrong they know the MSM will not point it out or comment on it. They know they have the media as an ally and that the average American either pays no attention, or forgets what was said and by whom in a day or two.

Posted by: TomR at August 25, 2007 10:32 AM

James Carville can add one more bumper sticker to his DSCC campaign.

We Support the Troops
We Support Their Defeat
Vote Democratic 2008

Posted by: Les at August 25, 2007 04:29 PM

Darth..............OOHRAH I love that!

"Operation Swiss Cheese Islamos On Pita Bread 07"

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 26, 2007 12:01 AM

Lynn, me too I laughed when they blamed Bush for the weather, and so many things. I swear if the mail is late at their homes I bet they are blaming Bush for that too. Good grief.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 26, 2007 12:03 AM

DD2, thanks for bringing that up. Hillary really messed up again by saying that about future terrorist attacks. Your so right DD2, totally stupid thing to say.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 26, 2007 12:05 AM

Tom that is so true, and if it is said by someone on the right then it is hammered for days on end. Double standard.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 26, 2007 12:07 AM

Les that would make a good one too.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 26, 2007 12:08 AM

You know, it's a wonder they can get out of bed in the morning - after all, there are two sides to choose from. Which way t' go? Which way t' go???

Posted by: yankeemom at August 26, 2007 10:19 AM

Yankeemom, good one! That is just how it is for them, your right.

Posted by: Wild Thing at August 26, 2007 10:59 PM