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May 09, 2007

Have the Democrats protested the arrests yet?

From various links at Fox News...........

A group of men had brought him a video showing them firing assault weapons and chanting, "God is Great!" in Arabic. They wanted him to transfer the footage onto a DVD.

So he said something, calling the Mount Laurel Police Department, who in turn contacted the FBI.

And thus began the downfall of one of the most thoroughly infiltrated and documented group of terrorism suspects in recent history.

FBI agent J.P. Weis saluted the unidentified Mount Laurel store clerk as the "unsung hero" of the case.

"That's why we're here today — because of the courage and heroism of that individual," the FBI agent said.

The suspects' images and words were captured on more than 50 audio and video recordings. Their comings and goings were recorded by law enforcement agents who monitored the alleged plot for 16 months, hoping more terror ties would become apparent.

The defendants, all men in their 20s, include a pizza deliveryman suspected of using his job to scout out Fort Dix. Their goal was "to kill as many American soldiers as possible" in attacks with mortars, rocket-propelled grenades and guns, prosecutors said.

"Today we dodged a bullet. In fact, when you look at the type of weapons that this group was trying to purchase, we may have dodged a lot of bullets," Weis said. "We had a group that was forming a platoon to take on an army. They identified their target, they did their reconnaissance. They had maps. And they were in the process of buying weapons. Luckily, we were able to stop that."

And this............................


Six people were arrested on Monday in connection with an alleged plot to murder soldiers at Fort Dix, the U.S. attorney’s office said.

Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New Jersey, said the men are from the former Yugoslavia and were planning to “kill as many soldiers as possible.” Five of them lived in Cherry Hill, he said.

Drewniak said the six were scheduled to appear in federal court in Camden later Tuesday to face charges of conspiracy to kill U.S. servicemen.

The six men — five of whom lived in Cherry Hill, a Philadelphia suburb about 20 miles from Fort Dix — were arrested Monday night while trying to buy AK-47 assault weapons, M-16s and other weapons from an FBI informant, authorities said.

The undercover investigation followed the men, three of whom are brothers, from New Jersey to the Poconos, where they allegedly practiced firing automatic weapons, media sources said.

Officials raided the homes of the men, described as Islamic radicals, and said there is video showing some of the alleged planning.

A law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because documents in the case remain sealed, said the men were arrested as part of a joint federal and local investigation.

The officials said the attack was stopped in the planning stages.

In addition to plotting the attack on Fort Dix, the defendants spoke of attacking a Navy installation in Philadelphia during the annual Army-Navy football game and conducted surveillance at other military installations in the region, prosecutors said.

One defendant, Eljvir Duka, was recorded as saying: "In the end, when it comes to defending your religion, when someone ... attacks your religion, your way of life, then you go jihad."
"It doesn't matter to me whether I get locked up, arrested or get taken away," another defendant, Serdar Tatar, was alleged to have said. "Or I die, it doesn't matter. I'm doing it in the name of Allah."

Look at this...........
from The Ledger

Some of the would-be attackers have been living illegally in the United States, while others are legal immigrants, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office. Four are ethnic Albanians, one was born in Turkey, and a sixth was born in Jordan.

Officials identified the men as Dritan Duka, 28, Eljvir Duka, 23, Shain Duka, 26, Serdar Tatar, 23, Mohamad Shnewer, 22, and Agron Abdullahu, 24.

The six had been under FBI surveillance for 15 months and prepared for their alleged plot by shooting paintball guns and real weapons in Gouldsboro, Pa., 30 miles southeast of Scranton, officials said. One had experience as a sniper in Kosovo, Christie said.

"These folks knew how to use these weapons," he said.
The men also allegedly watched jihadist videos in which Osama bin Laden urged them toward martyrdom.

While under federal surveillance, the men also watched a video in which a U.S. Marine lost his arm in an explosion.

"The room burst out into laughter," Christie said. "These are the type of people we were dealing with."

The men had scouted out Fort Monmouth, Dover Air Force Base, Lakehurst Naval Air Station and the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard before settling on Fort Dix, a base that is used to mobilize troops to Iraq, according to the complaint.

"One of the suspects, Tatar, had regular access to secure areas of the facility through his job as a deliveryman for his father's pizzeria in Cookstown, not far from the gates of McGuire Air Force Base, which adjoins Fort Dix. Tatar, the complaint said, knew Fort Dix like the palm of his hand."

The men had videotaped their practice sessions in Pennsylvania, according to the complaint. That videotape, in which they fired assault weapons and railed against America, led to their arrests.

Wild Thing's comment........

Thank God nothing came of their plans. I wish I could say it was surpirse when I heard this earlier today. I wish that it would be something that is not in my mind to even think about.....that we are constantly under attempted attacks in our country. There are so many that never happen, some that we find out about and others we never even learn of unless knowledge comes to those in Homeland Security etc.. But as long as Islam exists these attacks will exist and attempts will be made.

Thank you to all involved in stopping this attack and all the ones these subhuman Islamists had planned.

From their how to book of Islam:

Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels.
So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle,
inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them,
so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”

Posted by Wild Thing at May 9, 2007 12:55 AM


We need more people like this fine clerk to step up to the plate and report this kind of behavior.
It makes me sick to think a couple of these guys were illegals!
But even more sick to think the rest were Americans.
They ain't going up, they're going down. There's a special place in HELL for people like them.

Posted by: Lynn at May 9, 2007 06:11 AM

It's great them telling us all how the terrorists were found out but unfortunately the next ones won't make the same mistake. They'll transfer their video's to DVD themselves. Why do they have to release the details on how criminals were thwarted?

Maybe it's time military personnel in the US start carrying side arms. Except for those guarding the gates and secure areas within the base, the troops are unarmed.

Posted by: BobF at May 9, 2007 07:21 AM

I also wish the FBI had not released info on how these terrorists were found out. Let them think our authorities know more than they do, or some other moslem fingered them.

This is a definitive case against illegal immigration and also against trusting any moslems, native born or infiltrated. I wish all immigration was turned off right now until we get the situation under control, if it takes eight or ten years. And all the sob stories be damned. Our survival is at stake.

Posted by: TomR at May 9, 2007 12:04 PM

We can't trust the media to protect the methods of surveillance or where the tips come from, they'd sure like to drop the other 4 suspects and concentrate only on the 6 in custody. That's 40% of a terrorist cell on the loose that they are willing to forget as small fry. Bullshit!!! Round them up too, deport them at a minimum. What in the hell is wrong with these people's minds? BTW, George Bush, this is your State Department at work on the Illegal Alien problem, they caught 6 and let 4 go to tell all the rest how to defeat the system. I couldn't agree more with Tom and Bob. The October 23, 1983 Beirut barracks bombing had the Marine sentries at the gate operating under their rules of engagement, which made it very difficult to respond quickly to the truck. By the time the two sentries had locked, loaded, and shouldered their weapons, the truck was already inside the building's entry way. The suicide bomber detonated his explosives, which were equivalent to 12,000 pounds (about 5,400kg) of TNT. In the attack on the American barracks, the death toll was 241 American servicemen: 220 Marines, 18 Navy personnel and 3 Army soldiers. Sixty Americans were injured. In the attack on the French barracks, 58 paratroopers were killed and 15 injured. In addition, the elderly Lebanese custodian of the Marines' building was killed in the first blast. The wife and four children of a Lebanese janitor at the French building also were killed. We didn't learn much from that fiasco. That civilian cop on the beat takes his or her firearm where ever he or she goes including their home. These troops are trained in firearms and their use, there is absolutely no reason not to arm them in their quarters, they do it all the time in combat situations. I slept with my loaded M-16 every night and every day it was within arms length. For me the day I turned in my M-16 I felt totally naked, helpless and unprotected, even though I was surrounded by the entire 23rd. Infantry Division. At least let them protect themselves against attack.

Posted by: Jack at May 9, 2007 12:25 PM

Where's the fence? And juice it with 3-phase to boot. And a steady line of claymores on both sides. Then the motion activated .50 cals that I saw on Future Weapons. And robots to patrol. Also weaponized.

And why couldn't the Feds just let these 6 just quietly disappear? What would be the harm?

Posted by: raz0r at May 9, 2007 06:25 PM

Lynn I agree, God must have a very special place for them in Hell.

When I saw a few were illegals I wonder if they came in through Canada or Mexico or how. Just curious more then anything.

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 9, 2007 11:42 PM

Bob, I wish they would not order the pizza too. Go out and pick it up, that way the jerk terrorists can't get on base at all.

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 9, 2007 11:47 PM

Tom that is exactly what Angry Old Salt said when they were telling us about this on the TV news, and I agree.
We get way too much information on their HOW they captured these guys. And it will warn others what not to do. The media is nuts to put it out there, but so are the FBI too.
I am proud of what they did, but please just let me praise them for a job well done without all the details of the how.

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 9, 2007 11:51 PM

Jack I agree, excellent.

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 9, 2007 11:51 PM

razOR I so much wish they were telling us they had shot the terrorists instead of arresting them. I am tired of the lefties in courts getting these people off or light sentences, they had bad childhood or something sheesh

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 9, 2007 11:53 PM