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October 09, 2009

Obama ~ Taliban Can Be Part of Afghanistan’s Government




Obama says the Taliban aren’t the enemy and we could cede parts of Afghanistan over to them! What a sad, pathetic, weak man we have in the White House. Obama Takes Yesterday’s Taliban Talking Points, Makes Them Today’s WH Spin God, help us!



Obama focusing on al-Qaida, not Taliban


President Barack Obama is prepared to accept some Taliban involvement in Afghanistan's political future and appears inclined to send only as many more U.S. troops as needed to keep al-Qaida at bay, a senior administration official said Thursday.

The sharpened focus by Obama's team on fighting al-Qaida above all other goals, while downgrading the emphasis on the Taliban, comes in the midst of an intensely debated administration review of the increasingly unpopular eight-year-old war.

Though aides stress that the president's final decision on any changes is still at least two weeks away, the emerging thinking suggests that he would be very unlikely to favor a large military increase of the kind being advocated by the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal.

McChrystal's troop request is said to include a range of options, from adding as few as 10,000 combat troops to - the general's strong preference - as many as 40,000.

Obama's developing strategy on the Taliban will "not tolerate their return to power," the senior official said in an interview with The Associated Press. But the U.S. would fight only to keep the Taliban from retaking control of Afghanistan's central government - something it is now far from being capable of - and from giving renewed sanctuary in Afghanistan to al-Qaida, the official said.




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Wild Thing's comment.........

Meanwhile....Iran keeps supporting the Taliban.

Obama does NOT want to kill the Taliban. Weak, weak, weak. Our enemies now know they have nothing to fear from Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Let's look back at Obama's history about the Taliban since he became the Anti-American illegal President.


From some posts I made in March of this year..............

March 7th 2009
Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

Obama declared in an interview that the United States was not winning the war in Afghanistan and opened the door to a reconciliation process in which the American military would reach out to moderate elements of the Taliban, much as it did with Sunni militias in Iraq.


March 9th,2009
Taliban Responds To Barack Hussein Obama

March 12th,2009
Taliban To Obama ~ "moderate Taliban and what it means?"

"This does not require any response or reaction for this is illogical," Qari Mohammad Yousuf, a purported spokesman for the insurgent group, said when asked if its top leader Mullah Mohammad Omar would make any comment about Mr Obama's proposal.
"The Taliban are united, have one leader, one aim, one policy...I do not know why they are talking about moderate Taliban and what it means? "If it means those who are not fighting and are sitting in their homes, then talking to them is meaningless. This really is surprising the Taliban."
“Obama’s comment resemble a dream more than reality,” said Waheed Mozhdah, an analyst who has written a book on the Taliban.
“Where are the so-called moderate Taliban? Who are the moderate Taliban?” asked Mozhdah, who was an official in both the Taliban and the Karzai governments.
"'Moderate Taliban' is like 'moderate killer'. Is there such a thing?", asked writer and analyst Qaseem Akhgar.



Posted by Wild Thing at October 9, 2009 02:55 AM


Comments

Newsflash - Your Obama has just been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Can you believe that!!!!


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/09/2710141.htm?section=justin

Posted by: Lyn in Australia at October 9, 2009 05:30 AM


It's a HOT topic in Oz right now: Here is a sample comments coming in......:)


Sing along now acolytes:

Barack loves me this I know, for the media tells me so; the Nobel Prize he's right to win, just 'cause the colour of his skin. Yes, Barack loves me! Yes Barack loves me! Yes Barack loves me, the media tells me so.

Posted by: Lyn in Australia at October 9, 2009 07:05 AM


He is supporting enemies of the United States!! Isn't this against the oath he took?! My gosh!!

Posted by: jan at October 9, 2009 07:53 AM


This is the same Taliban who support a cultural system that brutalizes women, teaches children to hate Jews and any non-muslim and revels in death and destruction. Sure, lets give 'em a nice place all their own so they can plan our demise. Geez...what a moron.

Posted by: PeteSuj at October 9, 2009 08:07 AM


More importantly Jan, if he allows the Taliban into the Afghan political process he will be condemning generations of Afghan women into virtual servitude/slavery to men. Their lives will become Hell under a Taliban influenced government. We all know exactly what happens to women and girls under a Taliban regime. How does that sit with a UN supposedly devoted to human rights and equality. How does that sit with an Obama that supposedly expouses the same philosophy?? He has two daughters - how would he feel knowing that his policy (if he goes down this pathe)will literally imprision children the same age as his daughters??? Impowerment,freedom and the pursuit of happiness for Michelle & Baracks daughters.....but not for Afghan female children. They are condemned to a life a abject misery so Obama and his gutless democrats can expediently solve the problem around their necks that is Afganistan. I have a Iraqi Kurdish friend that remembers the soothing words of another Democrat leader who told his people that the US would protect them from Saddam. But that is not what happened as Saddam gassed their people and bombed their villages and the people themselves as they fled into the snow covered mountains. I HATE socialist liberals with a passion! At least with George Bush knew where you stood!

Posted by: Lyn in Australia at October 9, 2009 08:27 AM


Well we have come full circle. We are now back to the Clinton policy of bombing vacant Aspirin factories. Obama has devolved our foreign policy to that of peace keepers.

When obamas fantasy world fallls apart will they take back the peace pirze ? It is not surprising nor is it unbelievale, afterall, they awarded it to Jimmy Carter and Algore.

Posted by: Mark at October 9, 2009 08:35 AM


A Nobel Prize for doing absolutely nothing except taking America down the toilet. Since Carter and Gore got their Nobel's, it's been nothing but a joke.

Posted by: BobF at October 9, 2009 09:03 AM


I agree with all of you. By the time he is done the world will have another killing field. He is trying to assure our defeat in Afghanistan and it will be a disaster for us and the people of Afghanistan.

As far as the peace prize, I believe it has proven to have no credibility. It was on FOX this morning that Obama was nominated 12 days into his presidency. It is a farce and should be treated as such.

Posted by: Bob A at October 9, 2009 09:05 AM


Woodrow Wilson (super racist progressive socialist), Teddy Roosevelt, Gore, Carter, Obama...see the pattern PROGRESS here? Then there's that Arafat guy in 1984.

And that dude that won the Economics prize last year is in the Admin and he is a NUT.

No credibility left. I thought they were wacky after the Gore thing when his junk science was exposed time after time, but this is just laughable.

Really, laugh. This is a huge embarassment to him, even though the I LOVE ME AND YOU SHOULD TO in him won't allow him to feel that.

Posted by: Eden at October 9, 2009 10:49 AM


Well shit! That Nobel prize ought to really stoke the vanity fires in this narcissist's belly.

It is a bad strategic move, but I think we should get out of Afghanistan now. From this point on every American and coalition member killed is a life wasted. We are back to Vietnam circa 1968.

obama comes from one of the bloodiest cities in America, Chicago. He obviously did little as a "community organizer" there except build a political career. No peace in Chicago. There may not be peace in America at the rate this Marxist is going.

Keep buying ammo!!

Posted by: TomR at October 9, 2009 10:52 AM


Can his Miss America crown and Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval be far behind?

Posted by: Eden at October 9, 2009 11:19 AM


He's just rolling over and giving up. Yes, the taliban helped us when we helped get Russia out of Afghanistan, but now they blame us for Russia being there in the first place! No, they don't deserve a place in the government. Darn turncoats!
And why did Obama win the Nobel Peace Prize? He'd been in the office for 2 weeks and that's all they should have focused on. But he lost the Olympics, so they gave him the Nobel prize (money he can pocket himself and not share with anyone.) Mortensen, the man who built schools in Afghanistan and Pakistan for girls should have had it. The way to end this war is through education. He built those schools by his own hand. Now, there's a man of peace. Even Jerry Lewis never won it and he was nominated.

Posted by: Lynn at October 9, 2009 11:33 AM


But Tom, Obama sez Afghanistan is the IMPORTANT war /sarc

I agree with you. Come home, close our borders and defend THEM.

Posted by: Eden at October 9, 2009 11:35 AM


This from the same guy that refuses to allow the opposition party (the GOP) a voice in our government.

Posted by: Rick at October 9, 2009 12:13 PM


That Nobel was the buyout, buy more body bags for the troops, Obama has just given the Taliban the green light of concession and the permission to slaughter at will.

LBJ abandoned the troops in Vietnam and our allies in South Vietnam after TET '68, January-February 1968, by quitting on March 31, 1968, (clue, it lasted into September '68) that war raged on another 5 bloody years, the names on the Vietnam memorial wall tell the tale of renewed NVA and VC determination and vigor from our enemies when our leader quit, after 1973 the Democrats ensured the Communist world that they wouldn't interfere or aid the South in any way. This also sealed the fate of unrepatriated American and allied prisoners. Life is cheap, the Dhimmis prove that every step of the way. So who was responsible for the North Vietnamese and their Cambodian allies who killed 2 or 3 million people after we pulled out? It was/is the same liberals, progressives, socialists or communists or whatever label they choose to call themselves. President Nixon proclaimed it a "Peace with honor" in Vietnam. Whatever may have been achieved it was not peace and was not with honor. I left Vietnamese friends behind whose parting words still haunt me, 'Forget me not", I haven't. Nixon didn't get that Nobel either.

Buy more ammo!!!

Posted by: Jack at October 9, 2009 01:15 PM


I penned a very pessimistic response and deleted it. It would have surely got me eliminated in the first round of Purge the Old Folks. I'll probably quit the Internet and devote my little remaining time to loading ammo. I guess we can't vote our way out of this mess. The third world immigrants have us outnumbered. Not surprised.

Posted by: horace at October 9, 2009 01:27 PM


Don't give up yet horace. Pen whatever you want and vent some steam. All of us here think alike. Keep reloading but also keep some glimmer of optimism. We will see what happens at the polls next year.

Posted by: TomR at October 9, 2009 04:32 PM


Thank you everyone. GREAT input and comments.
I appreciate it so much.

Horace, you can write anything you like
here. I would never ban you or eliminate
you. haha This is a PC FREE Zone so I
want people to feel the freedom of
speech.

Posted by: Wild Thing at October 9, 2009 07:18 PM


I feel like the Old Testament prophet Hosea must have felt when his wife betrayed him over and over. America is sleeping with the pigs. Hosea said something that I quote frequently when speaking to groups about drug and alcohol addiction. He said (Hosea 4:6) "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." I cannot improve on that. We just don't seem to learn anything.

Posted by: horace at October 9, 2009 08:40 PM


The chickens are coming home to roost - Enoch Powell tried to warn people, but he was vilified by the socialist liberals as a scaremongerer and racist. The native Britain of today is under seige from the muslim immigrant masses. They are taking over entire counties and changing the landscape of Britain - the Brits feel like strangers in their own land. Multi-cultralism is tearing the West apart. Even people in Europe are getting afraid. America has been an extremely generous nation in allowing immigrants into her land. But it has been a two edged sword, with many immigrant goups forming cultural ghettos and therefore division & separation from the dominant (but increasingly overwelmed)mainstream population. Multi-culturalism has never been successful in any country on this earth...not even in Australia. We keep 'harmony' by introducing draconian laws to keep people in line. But their are forces at work (both economic & social) that will see the unravelling of our societies in the nature of riots and terrible civil unrest. The white race (who only make up 8% of the global pop)is in line for extinction because the other 92% see us as the reason for all their percieved ills. People are getting afraid in England....and so are many anglo Australians. What do you guys think about the American situation??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23MEL7424aQ

Posted by: Lyn in Australia at October 9, 2009 11:21 PM


Horace, apathy has let a lot to do with
how much of this has happened. imo
Even when political correctness began there
was no major outcry how people would not
stand for it. Instead too many people just
grumbled and let it go at that.

When the March on Washington happened a few
weeks ago, that same kind out action, and
speaking out at the Townhalls, the intensity
needed to happen in the last 40 years or more.
We conservatives like to use the ballot box to
speak for us, but that has failed. It has brought
too many rino's as we settle for our side vs.
the left. The rino never should have gotten to
the ballot box.

There was no serious outrage from the right
during the Vietnam War. There should have been, but instead too many people just watched what
was happening and said nothing to defend our
troops and their fight against communisim.

Too many people don't like to make waves,
they want comfort and have lost the edge or
how those long ago fought for our country, like
our Founding Fathers. What they did took courage.

Horace, if our population was more like you and
the others here at my blog most of what we see
would not be happening.

Just my opinon.

Posted by: Wild Thing at October 9, 2009 11:50 PM


Lyn in Australia, good speech by Enoch Powell.

"What do you guys think about the American situation??"

In two words it stinks! This blog, Theodore's World, has wonderful activists that have done all they can within the law to stop the horrible Bill's that have been passed. Some we have managed to stop but that was when we had more leverage in the Congress as well as the White House.

I am so proud of everyone here that has tried hard to fight back.

The thing is Lyn we LOVE America it is those in power we are angry with to say the least. For me personally I hate our government!!! I hate what it has become, corrupt up the wazzoo and not only from the left but some on the right as well, like the rino's for one thing.

We have a man in power that imo is NOT qualified to be President. And if only a court would see that and a Judge had the balls to honor our Constitution, I include the weak Supreme Court as well, Obama would be forced out of office. And I could care less if there were riots in every town and city because of it. We have guns too and believe me I would not hesitate to kill a person if they tried to harm me or my family including my animals.

Our American situation is almost doomed imo. If this obamacare passes and the Cap and Trade passes we will probably never be able to reverse either one of them.

It is more then sad it is an outrage. Not only for we Americans but for the entire world. It has been America that has been the one that lead and helped others and fought for others to be free.


The USA has freed more people from any other country since the time our country began then the rest of the world combined. The world mostly has depended on us and now with Obama he wants to make us like any other country. He wants to weaken us from within.
He does not have a clue what makes America tick and why it has been so special. He hates our Constitution, he hates our military, he hates America. He is a racists from head to toe.


He has dishonored our Constitution in the things he has done and is doing and wants to do.


He imo has committed TREASON in various ways.


His slandering of our country over and over and over again. NO other leader of a country has ever put their country down, never. But Obama does constantly.

Abraham Lincoln said " Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged".

I wish this would be done with ANY politician and I include Obama as well, all that are guilty. Abe Lincoln was absolutely right.

I will not give up on my beloved America, and I will always do what I can within the law to
fight back.

We all need to do what we can including praying for our countries, yours too Lyn. The whole world is upside down. Look how the Britain has become so catering to Muslims and their laws and courts etc. I would be pissed off big time if I lived in England. Just as I am for what is happening in our country.

We all need to stick together, there is strength in that. We need to do what we can, even if it is telling others things that are going on. Too many people live with self involved heads in the sand. Too many don't even know the name Nancy Pelosi. True! I met one lady that had not clue about the March on Washington. She asked me what the heck myt-shirt said and what was THAT about.


When I told her she said she never heard about it. Then she made some smart ass comment and walked off. LOL But screw her at least I had a chance to let a person know there were people NOT just sitting back taking the crap from Obama without speaking out.

Posted by: Wild Thing at October 10, 2009 12:20 AM


Lyn, one only has to look at the demise of South Africa to realize what is in store. In the name of ending apartheid, the entire world united to bring down the government of South Africa, we boycotted, we condemned them for their success, it destabilized the country and it fell under black rule. The whites were driven out or killed, the lucky ones escaped back to the UK, Holland and Germany from where their ancestors had immigrated to Africa, the blacks had been segregated to prevent them from stealing and overpowering the homeowners, they lioved in squalor outside the cities yet were allowed to work inside, that was all destroyed after apartheid was ended. As evidenced by UN aid and control the entire continent has been a hotbed of discontent, famine, war and genocide agitated by Communism and Islam extremes. But we have 'compassionate conservatives' and globalist forces that are trying their best to integrate something that is impossible to integrate, it only Balkanizes the western countries. What ever makes people think that these factions will integrate into and become productive citizens in their adopted countries when they cannot assimilate in their own countries? I give you the Afghanistan, Pakistan and Palestinian as a prime examples of the mindless butchers. Some of us are young enough to remember the Mau Mau uprising, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Lon Nol and Mao Tse Tung's 'ethnic cleansing'. We have the muzzies installed in some of the highest government offices in the land, legislating their future not ours.

Horace, please don't bail out, we value your comments and your support, it's not easy watching a herd of hogs destroying our homeland.

Chrissie, you are right, like all conflicts since WWII, none have been declared wars, my bitch with going to Vietnam wasn't about having to serve, I believed in what we were doing. No I didn't like to go nor did I like leaving behind a wife and daughter to fend for themselves, it was my duty to serve my country, even if it was for the wrong reasons. Then as now the troops were faithful to God, Duty and Country, their leaders were not. My complaint was Constitutional, just like it is now, some 20 of us filed a suit with William O'Douglas over breach of contract, due to the fact that were going to war in conflict with the terms of our enlistment contract, specifically it was not a declared war as my enlistment form stated it must be. The Army's reaction was to put us under house arrest, harass us with the Military Police and confine us to post while we packed our shit for deployment. We were made pariahs for questioning a blatant breach of contract and having the guts to address it through channels, yes we had a congressional investigation, by our liberal state congressmen, it went nowhere. William O'Douglas stalled acting on the lawsuit, he kept the retainer and dropped the case as unnecessary, after we were in country for 4 months, just another body that LBJ exploited and set a precedence with. But DOD rewrote that little tidbit out of the new enlistment forms, two of my three enlistments were on the new forms, it then allowed the government to send troops anywhere the president and congress wanted to send you under the war powers act. In effect it allows the president to commit troops, then deny responsibility for committing them and absolves Congress and the president of any culpability. Hey it's only dead bodies in those rubber bags, as expendable as any other war material that is forfeited to appease the enemy.

Posted by: Jack at October 10, 2009 12:42 AM


Every one of you should read these articles below. It is a series written in four parts. It outlines how we anglos (in the West)are literally destroying ourselves. After reading it I am more depressed than ever.


http://iluvsa.blogspot.com/2009/05/from-titans-to-lemmings-suicide-of.html

Btw - I have no quarrel with people from different races wanting to embrace & contribute to the Western way of life.....but the problem is many don't. Millions of them resent whites and blame 'the white devil' for most of their ills. In England they reject British values and are intent on dismantling English culture by sheer numbers....and our people are aborting ourselves out of existence too. It's happening at a rapid pace in countries like France, Belgium and Holland. Here is Australia we are seeing the same pattern. But our government is now using new legislative laws to stifle debate. It's almost a hate crime to critise anybody not of anglo origin. Yet the rules don't operate in the reverse. We are being shut down, silenced and made to look like offish racist clowns. The white orientated left are cheering on our destruction either by deliberate design, ideology, or ignorance. You guys decide....:(

Posted by: Lyn in Australia at October 10, 2009 01:19 AM


I am not sure whether any of you guys have seen this, but is has caused a huge storm of controversy in the US. The guys didn't mean any harm - in fact it was meant to be a tribute and most of them where medical doctors of mixed race. No one here knew what 'black face' was until Harry Connick Jr made a federal issue of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k739n2VEsbA

So - if I were to go to a fancy dress party dressed as one of the Jackson's I would be considered racist, huh? The world has gone stark raving mad!!!

Posted by: Lyn in Australia at October 10, 2009 02:09 AM