September 27, 2009
Good For VFW ~ Justice Against Flag Burner
Members of a local VFW hand down their own punishment after a man burns an American flag on their property.
We're told the man burned the flag after a bartender at VFW Post 1938 in Valley Falls wouldn't serve him alcohol.
"Alcohol does strange things to people," said post commander Nick Normile, "but disgrace to the American flag, we can't tolerate that."
It's a lesson in patriotism that the disgraced local man--whose identity we're protecting--may have learned the hard way at the VFW hall.
Members tell NEWS10 the flag burning happened last Friday night when the man came in and was refused a drink because did not have the proper identification. That's when they say he walked over the flag pole and did something they consider unpatriotic in the extreme.
Normile explained, "He got mad, came outside, lowered the flag and set it on fire."
Normile says the flag that was burned belonged once flew over a fox hole in Iraq. A fox hole that several U.S. soldiers never made it out of alive.
Normile, a Vietnam veteran himself, was so incensed over the flag burning that he hunted the man down.
"I found him on Sunday and I duct taped him to the flag pole," Normile said bluntly. "He didn't deny it, said he was drunk. Let's just say he volunteered to sit out here duct taped to the pole."
For six hours the man sat under the pole, wearing a sign describing his actions. Passersby snapped pictures.
"I told him to sit there like those kids that were in that foxhole and see what they felt like because you are only getting a small taste of what they went through," Normile told NEWS10.
He adds the man learned his lesson, and with that lesson learned, Normile now wants to protect the man from any violent retaliation.
Normile asked NEWS10 not to reveal the man's name to also protect the young man's family.
The bits of the flag that survived will be retired during an official ceremony.
Wild Thing's comment.......
This kind of thing happening REALLY ticks me off. I am so glad they punished this jerk and maybe he will learn, I hope so. Drunk or sober there is NO excuse or reason for anyone to do such a thing to our Flag.
Back in 2005 our Flag in our front yard was burned and others in our little community. It took me a long time to walk outside and not check our Flag to see if it happened again because it really shook me that such a thing would happen.
This was my post about it and who did it and what happened.
......Thank you SSGT Steve
1st MarDiv, H Co., 2nd Bn, 5th Marine Regiment
2/5 Marines, Motto: "Retreat, Hell"
....Thank you Tom for sending this to me.
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US Army Special Forces
Posted by Wild Thing at September 27, 2009 03:50 AM
In another report I read that they gave this man 3 options. He chose this one. I'd love to hear what the first 2 options were! lol
We need this kind of action by the VFW members to keep happening. Personally, I think bringing back "shunning" is sorely needed.
Posted by: yankeemom at September 27, 2009 07:52 AM
He is lucky that they showed some restraint, I am not sure I could have been so easy on him!!!
I think that those who choose to burn OUR flag should wrap themselves in it first!!!
Posted by: Richard at September 27, 2009 09:53 AM
Nick Normile and VFW Post 1938, The words of this song by Toby Hughes, Saul Broudy, Chuck Rosenberg and Robin Thomas, all Vietnam veterans, captures the essence of why we serve the United State under it's flag of sovereignty. It represents the sacrifice and honor of Americans who have fought for freedom and liberty, this fool is lucky to survive desecrating a battle flag, I wouldn't have been so lenient.
Posted by: Jack at September 27, 2009 01:00 PM
I would have given him a fourth option. A one-way ticket to the third world shit hole of MY choice.
Posted by: TomR at September 27, 2009 02:11 PM
Yankeemom, oh wow I wonder what the
other options were too. heh heh
I bet they put the fear of God in
him with the other ones. God
Posted by: Wild Thing at September 27, 2009 05:00 PM
Richard, I agree completely.
Posted by: Wild Thing at September 27, 2009 05:02 PM
Jack, playing it right now thank you for the
link to the song.
Posted by: Wild Thing at September 27, 2009 05:06 PM
Tom, that would have been great.
Posted by: Wild Thing at September 27, 2009 05:19 PM
to wildthing, the other two options were the cops get involved, or the idiot takes on a seasoned veteran in a fight. he chose the third option.
Posted by: herbert at September 30, 2009 05:04 PM