August 18, 2009
Megyn Kelly Discussing Michael Vick
* operation of a dogfighting ring based at a property Vick owns in southeastern Virginia
* The 19-page indictment alleged Vick was highly involved in the operation, alleging that he attended fights and paid off bets when his dogs lost. It said he also was involved in the executions of dogs that did not perform well.
* Officers reportedly found equipment associated with dogfighting, blood stains on the walls of a room and a bloodstained carpet stashed on the property. They reportedly removed more than 60 dogs from the property.
* According to the indictment, Vick decided in his rookie season of 2001, with Phillips and Taylor, to start a dogfighting operation. They named their enterprise the "Bad Newz Kennels,"
* The indictment says Vick, Peace and Phillips executed approximately eight dogs they determined not to be good fighters by hanging, drowning and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground, electrocuting and shooting.
* Two co-defendants of Michael Vick say the NFL star helped execute dogs that didn't fight well, according to federal court documents.
October 29, 2007
Ted Bundy, David Berkowitz and Jeffrey Dahmer have more in common than just being serial killers. These three murderers are also connected by the fact that each of them tortured and/or killed animals during their childhoods. "Researchers as well as FBI and other law enforcement agencies nationwide have linked animal cruelty to domestic violence, child abuse, serial killings and to the recent rash of killings by school age children", says Dr. Randall Lockwood (vice president of training and initiatives for the Humane Society of the United States.
Some children are cruel to and torture animals to impress their peers, but future serial killers usually torture animals purely for their own enjoyment. Animal abuse is a recognized sign of a mental disorder. If a child hurts animals it should be a red flag and immediate action should be taken. While there are many factors that contribute to someone becoming a serial killer, the one constant they share is animal abuse.
Jeffrey Dahmer showed an intense interest in dismembering animals as a child. As an adult he was charged with murdering and dismembering at least sixteen people. Dahmer is just one example of this. As a matter of fact, most people who are on death row for murder admit to abusing animals as children. A study done by North Eastern University and the Massachusetts SPCA found that people who abuse animals are five times more likely to abuse humans than people who do not. Albert Schweitzer said it best when the wrote that "Anyone who has accustomed himself to regard the life of any living creature as worthless is in danger of arriving also at the idea of worthless human lives".
Wild Thing's comment.......
What he did wasn’t a “mistake”. It’s an extreme character flaw that is a common thread running through all serial killers of humans; they start with animals. It’s not something that can be fixed; it’s woven in to the fiber of their beings.
This guy did awful things to dogs and got sadistic enjoyment out of it. Nobody forced him to do what he did.
I am not saying he should not work just that he should not be able to work in the NFL. Embezzlers do not get jobs at banks or working with mone after they serve their time.
I watched his interview hoping to see that he was sorry, it just wasn't there.
Sports is all about money, not character, maybe it used to be eons ago but not anymore.There are some great people in sports and I don't mean to dimiinish them. But this is about Michael Vick.
Yes Vick did his time, even the finding Jesus thing that has become part of the just let me out I am a changed person routine we have heard from so many prisoners. Sorry it does not fly, if he did find Jesus the proof will be in his life from now on.
Either way what he did is a sickness not just breaking the law. He brings that sickness back to the game, puts it in the minds of every sports fan watching his team play. As a so called role model to kids, that has to be considered too. Sports figures should never be role models for anyone but they are and nothing can be done about it.
I agree with Megyn, she is not over reacting, she says he can have a job that is not the point, just not back in football.
Posted by Wild Thing at August 18, 2009 06:40 AM
Don't get me wrong on this as what Vick did was disgusting but there are people out there who want Vick's punishment never to end but think it's ok to kill an unborn child. To them, a dog is worth more than a child.
Posted by: BobF at August 18, 2009 11:12 AM
BobF., I understand and I am glad you see
that I only mean this about what he did
not that he is not allowed to have a life
People can change,and I am all for that.
If he really turns his life around that
would be awesome.
Posted by: Wild Thing at August 18, 2009 12:19 PM
Vick is sorry he got caught. If it is a culture thing what is he doing to better that culture. He now stands the chance of making millions of dollars again. The NFL is morals deficient. We have seen this before. The athlete is allowed to play, make his big bucks and then gets caught again in some criminal activity.
Posted by: TomR at August 18, 2009 12:23 PM
Well maybe we should put Michael Vick to death. Lethal injection no that would be too good for him lets take him out and shoot him or better yet Fry the bastard.
This seems to be Meyghan Kelly's view and that lawyers.I agree with Mercedes. Dog fighting is a dirty, evil, wicken, mean and nasty deal. The media was so upset when this happened.
But said nothing when Barak obama wants to kill born babies from a botched abortion nobody has a problem with that.
The bigger issue here is, the country is responsible for 1.3 Million abortions of Babies per year not dogs Human beings. Yet this is called Choice. Michale Vick gets caught in Dog Fighting and killing "innocent" dogs and goes to jail amd paid a hundred Million dollars for his crime but that still isn't enough punishment and some how this is worse than the halocaust of Abortion.
This seems to me to be a huge double standard and misplaced priorities.
How about Ray Lewis he was charged with murder, he was acquitted like OJ but the outrage with Michael Vick has is on a level I haven't seen before, except maybe OJ.
He went to jail, served his time, fair and square, yet these two don't want him to ever play again.
So now because of his crime, he should not be allowed to play in the NFL. Sounds to me like these two are in to double Jeopardy when it is convenient to apply it.
I've never liked Michale Vick, I think he's overrated and when he flipped off his own fans om Atlanta that was the last straw. Now that Philadelphia has signed him, you got two well overrated QB's playing for what is a fairly decent team.
Posted by: Mark at August 18, 2009 03:35 PM