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May 21, 2009

Obama May Grab for Guns





Obama May Grab for Guns

Townhall

by Jillian Bandes

Obama voiced his support for an anti-gun treaty with such wide ranging implications that it could ban everything from assembling guns in kits to repackaging spent shells.

The treaty was signed by former President Clinton, but never approved by Congress. It has gained approval in 29 other countries. Obama put his weight behind it during his whirlwind tour abroad late last month.

Yesterday’s passage of legislation that revoked the longstanding ban on guns in national parks proved that this treaty would probably fall by the wayside once more, said Larry Provost, President of Gun Owners of America. But the fact that Obama voiced his support for it speaks volumes about the President’s view of the Second Amendment, after his famous claim to not “take away guns” from law-abiding Americans.
The treaty would “pretty clearly would require, without a whole lot of extrapolation, a regulation of all firearms in the United States,” said Provost.

Called the “Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and Other Related Materials,” the legislation’s bans are multitudinous:

The manufacture or assembly of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials: a. from components or parts illicitly trafficked; or b. without a license from a competent governmental authority of the State Party where the manufacture or assembly takes place: or c. without marking the firearms that require marking at the time of manufacture.

These sweeping regulations could affect everything from BB guns to toy guns, and could even prevent the individual re-loading of guns by the owners themselves. It could potentially require matching insignia on bullets and shells, meaning that re-use of cases would be illegal – a practice that is more common during a recession.

The regulations could also affect gun clubs, by banning “association or conspiracy” with illegal gun activities. So if an NRA member commits an offense, clubs or advocacy groups could be liable.

The treaty could even call for action against the dealer who sold an offender a weapon. If Mexico calls for the extradition of a gun dealers, the U.S. would be obligated to resolve it by “other means of peaceful settlement” that are yet undefined.

In addition to a Presidential signature, sixty-eight out of 100 Senate members are needed in order for an international treaty to be approved in the United States. But the move to overturn the National Parks gun ban gained 67 signatures, meaning passing further gun restrictions is unlikely, said Provost.
“You have [Senators] who you’re just really surprised are voting pro-gun,” he said.


Another post I did on this:

Obama Pushes Anti-Gun Treaty




Wild Thing's comment.............

I really believe Obama seeks destruction of the Second Amendment. But what about this below:


Article I, Section 10, paragraph 1 declares: “No State shall enter into any Treaty...”

All civil magistrates are bound by oath to abide by the U.S. Constitution, and nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is any authority given for these United States to be subject to and bound by any earthly piece of paper that abrogates or is alien to the Constitution of the United States. As a matter of fact, Article VI, paragraph 2, the latter half of which is quoted at the outset above, in its first half, says only three (3) pronouncements are “the supreme Law of the Land”:

1) “THIS [the U.S.] Constitution,”

(2) “the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof” (i.e., as permitted by, in conformity with, and to implement this Constitution), and

(3) “all treaties made....under the Authority of the United States” (”under” designates that treaties are not over, not above, and not even equal to the authority of the United States granted to it by the States via the U.S. Constitution - but remain under, inferior to its jurisdiction).

A treaty may not do or exceed what the Congress is charged to do or what it is forbidden to do. Constitutional authority supersedes, overrules, and precludes any contrary treaty authority.



....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.


Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67


Posted by Wild Thing at May 21, 2009 05:40 AM


Comments

Any Senator that votes for this treaty should be brought up on charges. This is a clear violation of their oath. i.e., defend and protect the Constitution.

Obama certainly is guilty of this, why did he bring this bogus treaty back form Mexico, why is he doing the bidding of Calderon or Mexico ? This has been Obama's plan all along.

Why does obama believe the bogus numbers of the number of guns sold to Mexican Drug dealiers, why didn't Obama inform Calderon of the truth, No he apologised for the United States, when the real number is only 17 %, this has been proven. If he actually had been honest he'd admit he true intention is to strike the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution and any other Amendment that gets in his way to his road to total power and dominance over the American People. This charade goes along with the Climate Change scam, that he knows is NOT true but he will reduce the productivity of the United States to that of a 'turd world country'.

However, there is a silver lining here, amidst all of this, the voters of California voted down all the Tax inititives on the ballot. This may be obama's clarion call to force his hand which will show what his real intentions to the sleeping American People.

Posted by: Mark at May 21, 2009 07:39 AM


This is what they've been waiting for--the opportunity to remove all of our rights as citizens of the United States of America and make us do their bidding. We must obey for we are bad and need discipline. I wonder how he treats his daughters? Is he that stern a disciplinarian? America is NOT bad and he needs to read the articles that show that anywhere in the world with gun control laws, crimes have risen enormously because only the criminals have guns. Or does he think he's above all that and that he knows how to make this work? He is a stupid idiot who doesn't know what he is doing-period!

Posted by: Lynn at May 21, 2009 08:28 AM


That pesky 2nd Amendment stands in the way of Obama's grab for total power. An end around to disarm us, like an international treaty, would work to Obama's advantage. He could say we are just following the lead of other countries, mostly third world dumps. They don't have legal ownership of guns, yet they have crime and violence. Kinda like Obama's home town of Chicago.

It looks as though there are too many Senators fearful of their constituents backlash to ratify this CIFTA treaty or any other.

Posted by: TomR at May 21, 2009 12:08 PM


One of Hussein X's favorite ploys is to feign opposition to a contoversial idea which he in fact loves, than make an end run around opponants (as well as the constitution). In this case his "tool" is an international treaty which could effectively ban guns yet appear to leave the second ammendment "unmolested ". Also , Sen Lugar (R as in "Rino"-IN ) needs to get primaried. A few weeks earlier he suggested that the administration find ways to force gasoline prices as high as possible in order to force Americans to purchase new, little roller-skate cars and thus save the auto industry. When I heard that idiocy I "officially" quit the Republican Party as I refuse to see 1 penny of my contributions go toward the campains of such Rino weasels as Dick Lugar, Susan Collins et al. !!!

Posted by: willy at May 21, 2009 11:11 PM


Mark, thanks, that would be so great
to have that happen. Thank you to
Calilf.

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 22, 2009 12:16 AM


Lynn, I think he believes he is above
all of it. And even his voters are so
far beneath him he could care less.

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 22, 2009 12:20 AM


Tom, yes he really does want and seeks
total power.
I wish there was a way to fight back
from all this happening.

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 22, 2009 12:24 AM


Willy, thanks for sharing about that. I
sure hope they see they are driving all of
us away and it does not have to be like this.

Posted by: Wild Thing at May 22, 2009 12:29 AM