March 18, 2009
Obama and His Wife and OUR Military and Veterans
From Rush's website
Now, there's a companion story to this. Obama is thinking about making veterans foot the bill for their health care regarding injuries they received in combat. He wants to go after our Veterans! I am outraged, others are outraged as well. We as Americans must always honor the contract with America's men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice to defend and protect this country, its people, and its Constitution.
At some point, not only are they going to get rid of the ceiling on taxing people's Social Security benefits on all their income, leveling the FICA tax on all income, they are going to start counting employer provided health care benefits as income. This is exactly what they're going to do. They're outta money, they don't have any money; they are going to raise taxes on everybody.
Here is the story from Bill McGurn in the Wall Street Journal. Apparently, Michelle (My Belle) Obama, the First Lady, went to Fort Bragg, North Carolina. "By choosing Fort Bragg for her first official trip outside the capital last Thursday, Michelle Obama signaled that she will use her position as First Lady to promote one of America's most deserving causes: our military families. Plainly the families loved it. Just look at the smiles on those children as she read them 'The Cat in the Hat.' So it was just a little disconcerting the next morning to hear the First Lady explain how she came to this issue during last year's campaign. 'I think I was like most Americans,' she told ABC News. 'Pretty oblivious to the life of military families. Sort of taking it for granted.'" I just don't believe this. She's admitting she was oblivious to the life of military families, and then has the gall to tell the rest of us that so are we, when we are not oblivious to the lives of military families.
So while she's out touring Fort Bragg, North Carolina, reading the Cat in the Hat to the children of military personnel and acting like all of a sudden she's just now in the campaign. She's just started to love her country in the campaign, she just started to be proud of her country and it was only during the campaign that she finally figured out what military family life is like while her husband is mulling eliminating government-paid health care benefits for wounds and injuries suffered in combat! I thought it was talk radio that was ginning up all this anger and angst and so forth.
This is outrageous from Michelle. What Barack Obama is doing is OUTRAGEOUS! It is disingenuous, and it is insulting, and I resent Mrs. Obama saying that she, her thoughts on military life, "Well, I'm like everybody else." No, you're not like everybody else. Your ideas and your plans and the anger you bring to your life, you're not like everybody else, Mrs. Obama. Please don't equate us with your view of aspects of this country.
I'll tell you what else he's considering, folks, and I have warned you about this on several occasions. You mark my words. At some point, not only are they going to get rid of the ceiling on taxing people's Social Security benefits on all their income, leveling the FICA tax on all income, they are going to start counting employer provided health care benefits as income. This is exactly what they're going to do. They're outta money, they don't have any money; they are going to raise taxes on everybody.
And I checked at Mark Levin's website and he has this on his front page of his website yesterday.
From FOX News
Veterans Groups Blast Obama Plan for Private Insurance to Pay for Service-Related Health Care
President Obama's plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs for the treatment of troops injured in service has angered veterans groups who say the government has a moral obligation to pay for service-related medical care.
President Obama's plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs for the treatment of troops injured in service has infuriated veterans groups who say the government is morally obligated to pay for service-related medical care.
Calling it a "desperate search for money at any cost," Craig Roberts, media relations manager for the American Legion, told FOXNews.com on Tuesday that the president will "wish away so much political capital on this issue" if he continues to insist on private coverage for service-related injuries.
Cmdr. David K. Rehbein of the American Legion, the nation's largest veterans group, called the president's plan to raise $540 million from private insurers unreasonable, unworkable and immoral.
"This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate 'to care for him who shall have borne the battle,' given that the United States government sent members of the Armed Forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies," Rehbein said late Monday after a meeting with the president and administration officials at the Veterans Affairs Department.
"I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service-connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans," Rehbein said.
Roberts said that 11 veterans service organizations were told to come up with another plan if they didn't like this one. The groups met on Monday with Obama, Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki and Office of Management and Budget defense spending chief Steven Kosiak.
"What we've been tasked with now is to raise this money through alternative means and we're supposed to have a conference call in two or three days ... with Rahm Emanuel. So the implication was ... you guys come up with a better idea or this is what's going to happen," Roberts said.
Roberts said the president's plan would increase premiums, make insurance unaffordable for veterans and impose a massive hardship on military families. It could also prevent small businesses from hiring veterans who have large health care needs, he said.
"The president's avowed purpose in doing this is to, quote, 'make the insurance companies pay their fair share,'" Roberts said. "It's not the Blue Cross that puts soldiers in harm's way, it's the federal government."
He added that the argument about the government's moral obligation to treat wounded soldiers, sailors and Marines fell on deaf ears during the meeting.
"The president deflected any discussion when it got into any moral issue here," he said. "Any attempt to direct the conversation (to the moral discussion) was immediately deflected."
Monday's meeting was preceded by a letter of protest earlier this month signed by Rehbein and the heads of 10 service organizations. It read that "there is simply no logical explanation" for the plan to bill veterans' personal insurance "for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide."
The letter called it "unconscionable" to shift the burden of the country's "fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country." Rehbein testified to both the House and Senate Veterans' Affairs Committees on those same points last week
Wild Thing's comment........
I am glad to see other blogs posting about this as well as the talk shows I mentioned above. There probably are more I just haven't had time to check the others out about it yet.
Posted by Wild Thing at March 18, 2009 05:40 AM
Thanks bringing this to our attention Chrissie...another dagger into the backs of our brave men and women in uniform.
Posted by: James M at March 18, 2009 07:23 AM
Even Patty "Sneakers" Murray(Nutcase, WA) knows enough to back down. She told Secretary Shinseki that the proposal would not make it in the Senate.
Remember that Sneakers Murray is about as left wing as they come. And yet she stated that our VA benefits are already paid for. Hopefully there is dissent from the obambozo's own people in Congress. It will be needed to counter those who are blantantly anti Armed Forces in their views and attempts at socialism/communism.
Posted by: Glenn Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET at March 18, 2009 09:42 AM
The arrogance of this literal SOB where he refused to hear arguments. This was during a meeting with the National Commander of the American Legion.
"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."
The government has a moral responsibility and Obama could care less. But then, he would have to be a moral individual to care.
Posted by: BobF at March 18, 2009 10:07 AM
In order to continue to show his contempt for our military, O'Vomit slaps the face of every veteran and active duty service member. Goddamn traitor needs his neck stretched before our military is disbanded in favor of his nation of islam brown shirts.
Posted by: cuchieddie-25th ID Vet at March 18, 2009 10:27 AM
Keep buying Ammo!!!
I was at the civilian doctor's office yesterday, he's fully aware of my veteran status and is treating my Vietnam legacy. Ironically the local doctors held a forum over the weekend with some of their patients to discuss the loss of jobs and the impact of no insurance for medical care from their jobloss, the subject of stress came up, yeah I'm stressed too.
So is he. He's concerned about civil unrest, I mentioned personal security measures, he says he's locking the doors and making sure everything is secure at home, I assured him that wasn't enough!!! There is no doubt that the good doctor is a liberal, no doubt that he voted for 'change' but by his mannerisms he's having second thoughts, could his colleagues be having the same conscience? Squirm you liberal bastards, squirm!!!
Posted by: Jack at March 18, 2009 11:31 AM
Obama has proved a lot in two short months. He has proved how Leftist he is, how dishonest, thuggish and stupid he is. He is losing support in many quarters. He may self destruct. I hope this shit stain implodes sooner than later. He can do irreperable damage to America.
Shinseki ought to resign just for going along with this veterans insurance scam.
Posted by: TomR at March 18, 2009 12:11 PM
Jack, I believe many who voted for Obama's change are having second thoughts.
Posted by: BobF at March 18, 2009 12:56 PM
This is unthinkable. It can't be happening in the United States.
He is sending more troops to Afghanistan and expects them to pay for being wounded. This is one SICK BASTARD.
Posted by: Mark at March 18, 2009 05:41 PM
Get a rope!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: cuchieddie-25th ID Vet at March 18, 2009 06:28 PM
Mr. Teleprompter Obama Sir, How much of the SGLI (Servicemans' Group Life Insurance, a $400,000 Life Insurance Policy for all Service Members) will be taxed if I'm KIA and if I'm WIA how willing would a private insurance be to put me on a plan?
Mr. Teleprompter Obama Sir, Wouldn't you say this is a PLOY TO MAKE PRIVATE HEALTHCARE AND INSURANCE SO UNGODLY EXPENSIVE PEOPLE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE OTHER THAN TO ACCEPT A GOVRNMENT RATIONED SOCIALIST HEATHCARE PLAN AT A LOWER RATE (that part is VERY important I've figured the bastar out.)?
Mr. Teleprompter Obama Sir, would it be fair to say your using every means possible including wounded veterans to usurp and expand government power?
Mr. Telepromter Obama Sir, you are truly an evil man and I hope you burn in Hell.
Posted by: JohnE PFC U.S. Army at March 18, 2009 07:37 PM
I have been mulling this over and over to the boiling point. Scumbag bama, has thrown out the figure of 560 million to take care of the Wounded coming back from the wars. the Schwartzer is saying that he can't afford to pay this bill. This is choice, obama can't afford it, when exactly did it become his money ? Let's see, he certainly had enough to give 4 billion to ACORN or is it acoon. Why not let acoon donate a 1/2 billion to cover this certainly worthy cost. No that is part of the Wealth re-distribution, even though the recipients did absolutely nothing to earn this money they are getting to continue doing nothing.
There was money to bail out the dumbass democrats who insisted that fannie give loans to deadbeats, there was money to buy the union, there was money for the corrupt auto makers, you all know the story. But not one dime for the men and women are putting it on the line for their country. Life and limb.
Scumbag obama can't even look at the Marine saluting him when he gets off the chopper. He is scum.
Posted by: Mark at March 18, 2009 09:46 PM
James M., it really is a dagger in the back your right.
Glenn Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET , oh yes that Murray is a horrible person. It really shocked me when she said she did not agree with Obama on this. Years ago I emailed her to tell her off about something during the Clinton regime and she actually wrote me back, not one of those email form letters but a personal one. LOL She was so ticked off half the email from her was the F word, every other word. hahahah She was really mad at what I said to her. heh heh
BobF., that is what makes it even worse, like you said .....his arrogance, the way he throws hi chin up and his head back and literally looks down on everyone, plus his attitude.
cuchieddie-25th ID Vet, he is I agree, a total traitor and I wish we still have our laws on how we handle traitors.
Jack, he better do more then lock his doors, good one Jack !
Mark, I agree I really stay in this state of part shock and the other part anger. Throw in some laughs along the way to keep me sane, but the shock and anger are right there barely under the surface.
JohnE PFC U.S. Army, good one...."Mr. Teleprompter Obama Sir"! you said so many things I agree with John E.
Mark, this topic about our military and our Veterans was the last straw for me. No matter what he does after this will just be more anger but nothing like the way this sujbect makes me feel. I have visited too many VA hospitals, spoken with hundreds of injured troops over the years to not feel total and absolute rage about this.
I agree Mark I think he had in the back of his mind that he ( Obama) would just steal from the Veterans, from the inujured military etc. to pay for his socialist programs. I think he decided this long ago. Just like how the dems when they were in the majority for 40 years stole from Social Security to pay for programs.
Posted by: Wild Thing at March 18, 2009 11:54 PM